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Spain To Block Catalonia Independence Referendum

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25353086

So the Catalan Government has set a date for when it plans to hold a vote in Catalonia, with two questions, the second of which implies, if a majority of people vote "yes", that Catalonia would no longer be part of Spain.

However. the Spanish Popular Party led-government, as well as the main opposition Socialist Party have already said this can not happen.

Catalan pro-independence parties, which hold a majority of parliamentary seats in Catalonia, still sound determined to hold the vote, come what may.

In that case, the vote might more accurately be described as a "popular consultation", as, under the current terms of the Spanish constitution, the result would not be legally binding.

If a majority did vote yes, to both proposed questions (and recent opinion polls are far from clear whether that would the case), then what would happen next in Catalonia is far from clear.

The Catalan government has hinted in the past, that, with popular support, it might be prepared to make a unilateral declaration of independence from Spain, if all other avenues have been exhausted.

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The Spanish Government can't do anything else. If it made the referendum binding, it would be kissing goodbye to its claim on Gibraltar, where the populace voted almost unanimously to stay British. So they can't allow the Catalans to be seen to be similarly self-determining.

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The Spanish Government can't do anything else. If it made the referendum binding, it would be kissing goodbye to its claim on Gibraltar, where the populace voted almost unanimously to stay British. So they can't allow the Catalans to be seen to be similarly self-determining.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Viva la Democracy

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The Spanish Government can't do anything else. If it made the referendum binding, it would be kissing goodbye to its claim on Gibraltar, where the populace voted almost unanimously to stay British. So they can't allow the Catalans to be seen to be similarly self-determining.

British? LOL! Taxhavenish is the official designation.

The break up of nation states is the foundation of the EU.

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British? LOL! Taxhavenish is the official designation.

The break up of nation states is the foundation of the EU.

It may be taxhavenish, but it still isn't Spanish. The break up of nation states is simply the fashion of the age.

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It may be taxhavenish, but it still isn't Spanish. The break up of nation states is simply the fashion of the age.

London is taxhavenheaven, and it definitely ain't British.

The break up of nation states is the essence of globalism.

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London is taxhavenheaven, and it definitely ain't British.

The break up of nation states is the essence of globalism.

...and the more globalised the globe becomes, the more the Catalans/Basques/Welsh/Cornish/Scots want to be independent.

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...and the more globalised the globe becomes, the more the Catalans/Basques/Welsh/Cornish/Scots want to be independent.

No I don't.

Nor do the tiny minority of Welsh Nats if truth be told - their 34 year gravy train would come to a shuddering halt if it happened.

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No I don't.

Nor do the tiny minority of Welsh Nats if truth be told - their 34 year gravy train would come to a shuddering halt if it happened.

Talking to quite a few different Catalans while on holiday a few years back they're a lot keener on independence than even the Scots.

They seemed to regard themselves as the only dynamic culture in Spain, I have no idea of the truth of that.

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Talking to quite a few different Catalans while on holiday a few years back they're a lot keener on independence than even the Scots.

They seemed to regard themselves as the only dynamic culture in Spain, I have no idea of the truth of that.

They also have a more vibrant, less welfare dependent economy than Spain, the rich trying to pull away from the poor. The Scottish debate is less clear cut, a welfare dependent population with the balancing factor of natural resources.

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It may be taxhavenish, but it still isn't Spanish.

But it is the most spanish place in the world that isn't Spain. Easily. Taking into account Latin America too.

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Didn't Wolfie Smith always say he would wait for the Basques to make their move before he declared Tooting independent?

Power to the people, my friend. That terrace in Tooting is now worth well over £1 million now in any case.

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Talking to quite a few different Catalans while on holiday a few years back they're a lot keener on independence than even the Scots.

They seemed to regard themselves as the only dynamic culture in Spain, I have no idea of the truth of that.

Street sweepers in Barcelona speak perfect English - many bewildered Brit drunks get directions from them at dawn, after the North African pickpockets have stolen all the wallets and the mobile phones.

We're all in it together, innit?

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Street sweepers in Barcelona speak perfect English - many bewildered Brit drunks get directions from them at dawn, after the North African pickpockets have stolen all the wallets and the mobile phones.

We're all in it together, innit?

I think it is only Madrid they are not keen on......the rest of Spain they quite like. ;)

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I'm getting my Christmas "caganer" out today!! :huh:

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I think it is only Madrid they are not keen on......the rest of Spain they quite like. ;)

I don't how mutual that is. One time in the Canaries a waitress gently corrected my Spanish pronunciation, I said, "but thats how they pronounce it on the Costa Brava". Her face transformed from smiles to contempt and she said something like "we do not care for how they pronounce Spanish there!"

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No I don't.

Nor do the tiny minority of Welsh Nats if truth be told - their 34 year gravy train would come to a shuddering halt if it happened.

I don't anyone who does...either

Edit

eeeerr......maybe one then. ..on here ....!

Anyone been to the museum of the Catalan people in Barcelona? ...deffo way more keen than the Scot's

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I wonder how much bitterness, if any, is just below the surface from the Civil War?

Probably more accurate to say that it caused the Civil War, and never went away despite it.

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