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Lots of daily mail readers frothing at the mouth because the guy on £145k in London, which i assume isn't the mega money it's being made out

to be in this day and age, prefers to pay rent to the council to live in a nice house with a fair rent.

Politics aside, how dare he not pay over the odds to live in a new build cardboard wendy house, or pay an obscene amount to some amatuer landlord muppets each month for his 6 month tenure, or pay hundreds of thousands in interest payments to keep bankers in champagne.

Can't say i blame him, he's paying the rent out of his earnings

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Lots of daily mail readers frothing at the mouth because the guy on £145k in London, which i assume isn't the mega money it's being made out

to be in this day and age,

It's a bit more than minimum wage.

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Lots of daily mail readers frothing at the mouth because the guy on £145k in London, which i assume isn't the mega money it's being made out

to be in this day and age, prefers to pay rent to the council to live in a nice house with a fair rent.

Politics aside, how dare he not pay over the odds to live in a new build cardboard wendy house, or pay an obscene amount to some amatuer landlord muppets each month for his 6 month tenure, or pay hundreds of thousands in interest payments to keep bankers in champagne.

Can't say i blame him, he's paying the rent out of his earnings

I can't blame him either. Its an alien concept in the UK now. Rent a house, and stay in it for as long as you want to

The DM readership would also be frothing at the mouth if he'd bought and made thousands from HPI.

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Up the workers eh Bob, make sure you get your obligatory £3 per week from the people to ensure your luxurious lifestyle, never fear comrades Bob is only living like this in protest at the downtrodden workers of the UK..this is radical socialism in action!

Pass the caviar comrade! :lol:

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Up the workers eh Bob, make sure you get your obligatory £3 per week from the people to ensure your luxurious lifestyle, never fear comrades Bob is only living like this in protest at the downtrodden workers of the UK..this is radical socialism in action!

Pass the caviar comrade! :lol:

One suspects the average banker/rentier collects a hell of a lot more than Crows '£3 a week.'

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One suspects the average banker/rentier collects a hell of a lot more than Crows '£3 a week.'

Actually its £4.33, so more than I thought, still, it doesn't stop Crow being a typical champagne socialist trougher of the highest order does it? :lol:

I expect it from the banking and political careerists, I mean what would you expect, but what irks me more than anything is the fact the folks like our lad Bob are the real wolf in sheeps' clothing of the working class, and far worse than bankers and their ilk. ;)

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This just demonstrates the ludicrous situation that HPI has gotten us into. Under 'normal' circumstances, moving out of council accomodation would have been the natural progression as and when people's financial circumstances got better - a carrot rather than a stick phenomena.

Thanks to a combination of rampant HPI and unfavourable short term tenancy contracts in the private sector, you would be mad to vacate a council property now if you were in a fortunate position to have one, regardless of your current salary, myself included. dry.gif

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This just demonstrates the ludicrous situation that HPI has gotten us into. Under 'normal' circumstances, moving out of council accomodation would have been the natural progression as and when people's financial circumstances got better - a carrot rather than a stick phenomena.

Thanks to a combination of rampant HPI and unfavourable short term tenancy contracts in the private sector, you would be mad to vacate a council property now if you were in a fortunate position to have one, regardless of your current salary, myself included. dry.gif

+1 as well as creating the ludricous concept of 'social housing envy.'

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I thought that council houses were houses provided by society (ie. Taxpayers) for those who have fallen on hard times?

Isn't Bob preventing someone more needy from having shelter? And what's happening to the £ hundreds of thousands he's saved over the years?

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Yep, the alternative is the sh1t sandwich that he's surprisingly unwilling to take a bite out of

Sorry, Bob has no real excuses to hoard a council property on his inflated wages, not that it really matters to me, but I remember a time when council housing was available for families who could not afford to rent privately or purchase one, not for people living on 100k plus per year, he has no social conscience, he could easily afford to purchase his own place or rent privately. How about it then Bob, let a poor family live there, or just pull up the drawbridge eh comrade, after all, there is hardly enough caviar to go around. ;) .

I hope Bob has a merry xmas, all warm and cosy in his subsidised council housing, nice big fireplace, sipping fine wines with his family, I have to wonder how he can sleep at night knowing 80,000 children in the UK will be homeless this Xmas., I wonder if he imagines how his council house can provide a warm shelter or family home for those who don't earn 100k per year, socialism pays well in the UK eh Bob.

Sleep tight.

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This just demonstrates the ludicrous situation that HPI has gotten us into. Under 'normal' circumstances, moving out of council accomodation would have been the natural progression as and when people's financial circumstances got better - a carrot rather than a stick phenomena.

Thanks to a combination of rampant HPI and unfavourable short term tenancy contracts in the private sector, you would be mad to vacate a council property now if you were in a fortunate position to have one, regardless of your current salary, myself included. dry.gif

I suppose it depends where he lives, but he'd not get a house of that size in any half decent part of London for less than £500k, so there is no real incentive for a 52 year old man on £150k a year to take on the huge mortgage payments that would require to pay off before he retires.

The problem is that he is actually playing by the rules, it is just that the rules are outdated. The rampant HPI we have seen has put more and more people who would have been able to afford private housing in the past on the council waiting list, so it does seem fairly ridiculous that you have got someone earning that sort of money living in a council house. Whilst the rule remains as 'council house for life regardless of what you earn' he cannot be thrown out even if it is morally wrong.

I guess it would put him in a bit of a difficult position if he became eligible for Right To Buy!

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This is the eternal problem for those on the Left.

Tory - you know what to expect, keep your eye on the barsteward all the time.

Socialist - driven by a love of his fellow man, can be trusted to do the best for you & all society. Errmmm .........

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I suppose it depends where he lives, but he'd not get a house of that size in any half decent part of London for less than £500k, so there is no real incentive for a 52 year old man on £150k a year to take on the huge mortgage payments that would require to pay off before he retires.

The problem is that he is actually playing by the rules, it is just that the rules are outdated. The rampant HPI we have seen has put more and more people who would have been able to afford private housing in the past on the council waiting list, so it does seem fairly ridiculous that you have got someone earning that sort of money living in a council house. Whilst the rule remains as 'council house for life regardless of what you earn' he cannot be thrown out even if it is morally wrong.

I guess it would put him in a bit of a difficult position if he became eligible for Right To Buy!

http://metro.co.uk/2011/04/03/bob-crow-gets-taxpayers-help-with-rent-despite-earning-145k-a-year-648306/

Apparently he has, and turned it down

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Oh, lets all go to the council and get low rent houses. They must have loads if they can put up 100k plussers.

Back to the real world, the key thing is this guy is well paid and he's got access to cheap housing. People on a lot less money don't have this benefit so why should he. Isn't that the thing with socialism, everyone gets the same. Oh no, I forgot this is champagne socialism just the top bureaucrats get the perks.

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Sorry, Bob has no real excuses to hoard a council property on his inflated wages, not that it really matters to me, but I remember a time when council housing was available for families who could not afford to rent privately or purchase one, not for people living on 100k plus per year, he has no social conscience, he could easily afford to purchase his own place or rent privately. How about it then Bob, let a poor family live there, or just pull up the drawbridge eh comrade, after all, there is hardly enough caviar to go around. ;) .

Surprisingly.........

In the immediate post-war years, and well into the 1950s, council house provision was shaped by the New Towns Act 1946 and the Town and Country Planning Act 1947 of the 1945–51 Labour government. At the same time this government introduced housing legislation that removed explicit references to housing for theworking class and introduced the concept of "general needs" construction (i.e., that council housing should aim to fill the needs for a wide range of society). In particular,Aneurin Bevan, the Minister for Health and Housing, promoted a vision of new estates where "the working man, the doctor and the clergyman will live in close proximity to each other".

http://en.wikipedia....i/Council_house

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Lots of daily mail readers frothing at the mouth because the guy on £145k in London, which i assume isn't the mega money it's being made out

to be in this day and age, prefers to pay rent to the council to live in a nice house with a fair rent.

Politics aside, how dare he not pay over the odds to live in a new build cardboard wendy house, or pay an obscene amount to some amatuer landlord muppets each month for his 6 month tenure, or pay hundreds of thousands in interest payments to keep bankers in champagne.

Can't say i blame him, he's paying the rent out of his earnings

+1

There are much more important topics that affect the UK than the fact of Bob Crow"s Council tenancy.

I listened to Bob on LBC some 6 months ago and I agreed with every word he said, although he is a "wolf in sheep clothing" as some HPCers will say (and I agree), he did a great job for his union.

If there were more Bob Crows around workers would have had better working conditions and a better salary.

London bus driver phoned into the programme and attacked Bob with lines: "You and your union should be ashamed of high salaries you get.London bus drivers do not have good salaries".:blink:

Bob Crow replied: "Do you have the Union'? Bus driver :"Yes". Bob Crow: "Then urge your Union to do something for you and blame your Union for not working for you.";)

Bob Crow also said about relations between his workers and the management: "It is us aginst them, because they are always against us".

Bob Crow on immigration: "All workers are my brothers, and if they come to the UK I will welcome them provided that they do not work for lower salary than us."

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There are much more important topics that affect the UK than the fact of Bob Crow"s Council tenancy.

I listened to Bob on LBC some 6 months ago and I agreed with every word he said, although he is a "wolf in sheep clothing" as some HPCers will say (and I agree), he did a great job for his union.

If there were more Bob Crows around workers would have had better working conditions and a better salary.

London bus driver phoned into the programme and attacked Bob with lines: "You and your union should be ashamed of high salaries you get.London bus drivers do not have good salaries".:blink:

Bob Crow replied: "Do you have the Union'? Bus driver :"Yes". Bob Crow: "Then urge your Union to do something for you and blame your Union for not working for you.";)

Bob Crow also said about relations between his workers and the management: "It is us aginst them, because they are always against us".

Bob Crow on immigration: "All workers are my brothers, and if they come to the UK I will welcome them provided that they do not work for lower salary than us."

There are many other things I would rather be discussing than our boy Bob, however he is a clear example of the symptom of the disease which infects the UK, the whole hypocrisy of the socialist left has a poster boy! I find it amusing that the person you support who does so well for his union members is just the leftist version of the fat cat banker, but he is loved for it, how much more than the average working RMT member does our Bob take home?

Is that socialism or exploitation of the workers by another "boss", dear oh dear, you can't have it both ways lefties. B)

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Up the workers eh Bob, make sure you get your obligatory £3 per week from the people to ensure your luxurious lifestyle, never fear comrades Bob is only living like this in protest at the downtrodden workers of the UK..this is radical socialism in action!

Pass the caviar comrade! :lol:

My highest aspiration when I am rich and famous is to live in a council house.

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My highest aspiration when I am rich and famous is to live in a council house.

Fraid to say the cost of a 'secure tenancy' these days is normally a life time of debt slavery. Because that is the Tory/Rentier way.

And by Tory I also mean Labour (the faux socialist wing of the Tories)

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That is actually quite commendable, given that a lot of socialist's values quickly change when a big pay day presents itself. On the other hand, I suppose he stands to lose his permanent big pay days if he is seen to be moving away from his values.

It would be interesting to find out how many council houses have been sold on Right To Buy to people on this type of salary. Crazy scheme from the start.

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The distinction lies in whether you think of such housing as a safety net for those most in need or whether you believe the state to simply be the best landlord for all.

EDIT: My personal view is that councils should NOT provide homes as it is subject both to poitical vote winning and to under investment as a result of the Treasury.

I believe that rented homes should largely be provided by a massive mutual sector that build homes to rent to suit a range of pockets. Tenancy agreements to suit families and a right to buy at market rates. Indeed, I would convert 'building societies' to such organisations with the remit to increase the quality and quantity of homes over time, thereby improving the standard of living.

The state should pay rents for those in need - not try and run housing which they have failed abysmally at for the reasons stated above.

You'd have my vote

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I thought the Tories were going to introduce "pay to stay" whereby high earners in social housing have to pay market rent if they want to stay in their council homes. What happened to this?

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