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Wow Energy Crunch/peak Oil Mentioned On Bbc Radio News!

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Energy crunch, low reserves of gas/oil News must be getting into the psyche of the general population!

To be mentioned on Prime time lunch radio news is amazing!

Will Labour spin right out of it or totally ignore this goading through silence?

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On the subject of an energy crunch, guy on sky news reporting from

the London Stock Market just said the cost of electricity has just gone

up from 80 something pence on Friday to £1.20 something today.

Best stock up on some thermals.

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Didn’t think we had any other option over nuclear. Done deal really.

Why do you have so much faith in nuclear? Is it a case of there not being any other visible options so since failure to meet demand isn't a choice nuclear has to be it? Isn't that like people saying we'll discover more oil 'cos we need more oil? How much will nuclear cost to build? What is the opportunity cost? Is a nuclear PowerStation the best way to spend £2bn? How much could we reduce demand by if we spend £2bn on conservation or renewables? Hey if we invested £2bn in renewable technologies we could become a world leader in a new industry and not only generate energy but also a profit selling expertise overseas!

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Why do you have so much faith in nuclear? Is it a case of there not being any other visible options so since failure to meet demand isn't a choice nuclear has to be it? Isn't that like people saying we'll discover more oil 'cos we need more oil? How much will nuclear cost to build? What is the opportunity cost? Is a nuclear PowerStation the best way to spend £2bn? How much could we reduce demand by if we spend £2bn on conservation or renewables? Hey if we invested £2bn in renewable technologies we could become a world leader in a new industry and not only generate energy but also a profit selling expertise overseas!

What kind of renewables? Wind? Doesn't provide reliable power. Can't be taken seriously for baseload supply. Tidal? Yes, because it's predictable and can provide a serious amount of power, if you can get around the ecological problems. Geothermal? Definitely grossly underrespected. I don't thing we can afford to eschew building some nuclear plant. Meacher is being rather reactionary.

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Geothermal isn't the panacea it sounds like. You pass water through hot deep rocks and extract the heat. Natural heat flow replenishes the heat. Magic.

Apparently it's the replenishing bit that lets you down - it's not fast enough, so you end up 'mining' heat out of the rock.

Plus there's the technical problems of passing water through the deep rock. They tried it in some granite in Devon (two deep boreholes near each other, create fractures to connect them) and the flowing water picked up salts that reprecipitated and blocked the fractures.

I vote nuclear. Buy a load of SuperPhenix plants from the french (since we cleverly got rid of all our expertise).

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"Oh dear this energy thing is getting a bit ugly, I suppose we'd better start dripfeeding the "plebes" some titbits about it.

Don't want to spook them too much though, so take care. Try to reasure too.

You know, temporary thing, we're thinking about it and in the end all will be well.

Now, where are we lunching today?".

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Well since 1pm radio news . . . .

3pm radio News!

No 10 has released a statement to say they are "considering green-lighting new nuclear power stations"

This is in response to the recent slagging off by?? (someone or other/missed the name) who accused them last week of "dithering" over UK energy supply!

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On the subject of an energy crunch, guy on sky news reporting from

the London Stock Market just said the cost of electricity has just gone

up from 80 something pence on Friday to £1.20 something today.

Best stock up on some thermals.

Sorry that was gas. :(

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Sorry that was gas. :(

Yeah that makes more sense... but wow!! £1.20 is amazing, thats the most expensive gas in the world (shows what a mess we've made when we end up paying that much while the UK is the largest gas producer in the EU).

Last weeks situation backs up what some of us have been talking about for some months now, that we're not going to make it through this winter without serious shortages unless it is exceptionally warm. Looking at the numbers, for the last few days the Interconnector has actually been pumping ~40mcm per day (close to max and twice as much as last year) yet we have also been drawing down on storage heavily, 35mcm on the 17th Nov and 45mcm on the 18th Nov (latest data). So why have we had the draw on storage and imports, and cause the price spike? Because of depletion, because our beach gas has only been able to increase extraction from 230 to around 280mcm/d.

Last year beach gas deliveries reached a peak of 331mcm/d. Now maybe it's still early days and there's more to come from the gas fields but I find it odd that we are choosing to import so much and draw down on storage like we are before maximising the beach gas flow rate.

I knew gas was going to be a problem... but this bad, this soon?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=100...JPQfd4&refer=uk

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''EARLY WARNING OF SEVERE WEATHER

EARLY WARNING of Heavy Snow and Blizzards Issued by the Met Office at 10:46 on Monday, 21 November

OVERALL RISK ASSESSMENT: The probability of disruption due to severe weather conditions in part of the United Kingdom within the next 132 hours is 70 percent.

This is the first warning of disruption due to Heavy Snow and Blizzards.

The Met Office is forecasting a period of cold and very strong northerly winds across the country on Thursday and Friday, and perhaps also through Saturday, with all areas at risk of seeing some snow.

Highest risk areas are northern and eastern Scotland (where winds may reach severe gale force), and also eastern counties of England. Showers will fall as snow or hail widely over higher ground and at lower levels at times. Local blizzard conditions are expected over higher ground in the north and east.

This warning will be updated by 1000 on Tuesday 22 November 2005'

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/europ...nings.html'

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/europe/uk/warnings.html

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The Met office - PAH! :rolleyes:

So behind the times!

This was posted on Tues (15th November) last week on the Weather site I read! B)

QUOTE

Wednesday 23rd/Nov will see our high beginning to retrogress West into the Atlantic. In terms of weather this means another fairly cloudy and dry day, with temps close to the seasonal norm. Later, a little rain may move into Western and Northern Scotland.

Thursday sees our high merging with the Azores High in the Atlantic and ridging North to Greenland, as low pressure pushes South across the Country.

Scotland and Northern Ireland will see a wet and windy morning, and this band of rain will move South into England and Wales during the afternoon. Following on behind will be a strong Northerly wind and heavy snow showers across Scotland and some coming into Northern Ireland and North-East England. Temps will take a tumble through the day, 8-9c for the South, 3-4c for the North.

Overnight the rain will clear away from the South (possibly turning slightly wintry on hills on it's back edge) and then a widespread frost will set in, with snow showers continuing in the North. Temps, 1c to -4c.

Friday sees a strong Northerly wind bringing a bitterly cold feel, with the risk of snowfall almost anywhere, but especially in the North.

Scotland and Northern England looks as though it will catch the worst of the snow, with blizzards and drifting possible over hills. Elsewhere, expect a lot of sunshine, but wintry showers could develop over East Anglia and the South-East during the day. Temps, 2-6c with frost early and late.

Next weekend looks cold, with hard frosts and snow, more especially, but not exclusively, in the North on Saturday, and then low pressure bringing rain and sleet/snow to the South and snow for a time to the North on Sunday.

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Well since 1pm radio news . . . .

3pm radio News!

No 10 has released a statement to say they are "considering green-lighting new nuclear power stations"

This is in response to the recent slagging off by?? (someone or other/missed the name) who accused them last week of "dithering" over UK energy supply!

Now this will be fun to watch!

Did they also say they would not allow any Public Enquiries?

If so European Courts here we come.

The timescale quoted was?

Anyway isn't "considering" one of those political and diplomatic "delay" words?

If we get cuts in energy supplies and the weather is cold or worse expect headlines along the lines of

"Blair fiddles (or strums) while UK freezes". Especially if he takes the family off for Christmas hols to warmer shores.

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