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Some newspapers have noted that the report shows that there are more than 600,000 "non-active" EU migrants in the UK - describing them as "unemployed".

Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said there was a "big question mark" over the statistics.

"I am aware that this 600,000 figure doesn't actually refer to those who are necessarily of working age over here who could actually be working," he explained.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24522653

If they are working or not working they are still claiming benefits and some will have been here a very short time, This is a disgusting figure,

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If they are working or not working they are still claiming benefits and some will have been here a very short time, This is a disgusting figure,

[buzz] wrong. They're 'not economically active'. That number includes, for example, 130,000 students spending £1.5bn a year in the UK economy, it includes european husbands/wives of british workers, and it includes those who retired here to spend their money in the UK.

I would have thought that a topic with this title might be about the new estimates that more Brits claim benefits in Spain alone than do total EU citizens in the UK...

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This is about the Tories establishing their anti immigration credentials with potential UKIP voters- mere facts cannot be allowed to stand in the way.

The panic in the tory ranks over UKIP is almost palpable now- but the danger is that their scramble to the right will alienate many of those who voted for Cameron in the belief that he represented a break from the past. At present they seem determined to change their image from 'the nasty party' to 'the very nasty party'- not convinced this is a vote winner.

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This survey, or what has been reported anyway, completely misses the point.

Foreign workers undercut British workers, reducing overall wages, whilst pushing up various living costs.

The idea that you are either claiming benefits, or you are 'contributing to the economy' is laughably naive.

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I would have thought that a topic with this title might be about the new estimates that more Brits claim benefits in Spain alone than do total EU citizens in the UK...

Now, that would be an interesting (and surprising) statistic. Do you have a source?

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That number includes, for example, 130,000 students spending £1.5bn a year in the UK economy

Here's something I wasn't aware of.

There appears to be a problem of EU students taking out Student Loan Company loans and disappearing. EU students who do remain in touch with the Student Loan Company are much less likely than UK students to earn above the repayment thresholds. I guess the article is correct in saying that unless the procedure is tightened up, when the EU students with £9000 fees graduate the situation will deteriorate further.

http://www.telegraph...ying-loans.html

I guess they do spend a great deal into the economy, the problem is that when SLC get's bailed out it will be the UK taxpayer that foots the bill for a fair proportion of that spending.

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[buzz] wrong. They're 'not economically active'. That number includes, for example, 130,000 students spending £1.5bn a year in the UK economy, it includes european husbands/wives of british workers, and it includes those who retired here to spend their money in the UK.

I would have thought that a topic with this title might be about the new estimates that more Brits claim benefits in Spain alone than do total EU citizens in the UK...

Is that really true? I know a Spanish woman who got a flat in central London within days of arriving in the UK. I doubt it would be possible to do that in Madrid for a Brit.

Of course she was a single mum so that helps in the UK but not in other countries.

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Is that really true? I know a Spanish woman who got a flat in central London within days of arriving in the UK. I doubt it would be possible to do that in Madrid for a Brit.

Of course she was a single mum so that helps in the UK but not in other countries.

Isnt the difference that we have a 'means tested' system, most of europe has a 'contributions based' system.

Thus all the dregs head here, not surprisingly.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10375358/True-scale-of-European-immigration.html

Experts point out that while most EU migrants may move between countries to look for jobs the British system makes it easier than most other countries’ to claim benefits.

This is because British benefits are based on means-testing rather than on the recipient having made previous national insurance contributions.

European law says all EU citizens in a member country must have the same rights, so it is illegal to stop migrants from the rest of the EU claiming the same as British citizens.

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[buzz] wrong. They're 'not economically active'. That number includes, for example, 130,000 students spending £1.5bn a year in the UK economy, it includes european husbands/wives of british workers, and it includes those who retired here to spend their money in the UK.

I would have thought that a topic with this title might be about the new estimates that more Brits claim benefits in Spain alone than do total EU citizens in the UK...

1.5 bn .... Hahahaha...

know quite a few asian students and the modus operandi is to at least earn back what ygey pay in through part time (multiple) jobs ... That and a wholesale cleanout on their credit cards and mobile phone contracts before they leave for good... Example ... Splurge on credit cards to max limit .. Similarly take out multiple expensive mobile phone contracts before finally absconding...

so in the round they make back the 1.5bn through sucking up all the low end jobs and deprive native unemployed the same whilst holding down wages.. On the other hand they leave the avg credit card holder paying higher charges than necessary by gaming the system ... Every student I have met have said they all do it..

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[buzz] wrong. They're 'not economically active'. That number includes, for example, 130,000 students spending £1.5bn a year in the UK economy, it includes european husbands/wives of british workers, and it includes those who retired here to spend their money in the UK.

I would have thought that a topic with this title might be about the new estimates that more Brits claim benefits in Spain alone than do total EU citizens in the UK...

I expect i you are going to say next that we all get a free health service in Spain, Those dam insurance company's making us take out travel insurance for Spain.

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I expect i you are going to say next that we all get free a free health service in Spain, Those dam insurance company's making us take out travel insurance for Spain.

What has Togo ever done to you?

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[buzz] wrong. They're 'not economically active'. That number includes, for example, 130,000 students spending £1.5bn a year in the UK economy, it includes european husbands/wives of british workers, and it includes those who retired here to spend their money in the UK.

I would have thought that a topic with this title might be about the new estimates that more Brits claim benefits in Spain alone than do total EU citizens in the UK...

Utter rubbish. UK migrants to spain are mainly pensioners who spend their pension there and thus are net contributors to the spanish economy. Claiming what spanish benefits exactly ? When they need medical care they often come back home for the NHS due to the way the spanish health system care works. Seen it first hand.

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Utter rubbish. UK migrants to spain are mainly pensioners who spend their pension there and thus are net contributors to the spanish economy. Claiming what spanish benefits exactly ?

I think you should read the post you are replying to again. You appear to have completely misunderstood what was written.

On the other hand they leave the avg credit card holder paying higher charges than necessary by gaming the system ... Every student I have met have said they all do it..
Every student I have met have said they all do it.

Must be true then.

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