interestrateripoff Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2441434/Under-25s-dole-Cameron-says-school-leavers-earning-learning-sets-vision-land-opportunity.html 'The under-25s should NOT get the dole': Cameron says all school leavers should be earning or learning as he sets out vision of a 'land of opportunity' to Tory faithful Tory leader strikes upbeat tone in keynote speech ending party conference Promises welfare, schools and economic reform so everyone can make it Attacks Labour for appalling standards of NHS care at Mid-Staffs Wants everyone to have chance to get a decent job, start a business or own a home Poor children must be pushed hard to succeed not dumbed down, he says Profit is not a dirty word – it is the solution to Britain’s problems PM: I cannot keep my promises in another coalition after 2015 Are we going to see YTS type schemes meaning under 25 don't appear on the dole figures? It would appear we could get rid of youth unemployment in one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 No they shouldn't. But where are the jobs for them you pasty-faced idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I assume under-25s are going to be excused from national insurance payments then. Silly me, I forgot how this works. The young give, the old take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) Desperate nonsense, UKIP are going to surge whether their policies are just more shite or not. Saw Heseltine on TV this morning just blatantly saying they were a "racist" party conservatives are running scared IMO. Edited October 2, 2013 by dances with sheeple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reck B Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Fine, as long as over 60's don't get their full unfunded public sector pensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Fine, as long as over 60's don't get their full unfunded public sector pensions. Yes, this guy is a tool, will the young finally rise up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starla Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 http://www.dailymail...pportunity.html Are we going to see YTS type schemes meaning under 25 don't appear on the dole figures? It would appear we could get rid of youth unemployment in one go. On the upside they would have reached their unemployment target sooner than planned and be fresh out of excuses not to raise interest rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Of Highbridge Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 More war calls! As someone who left a broken home at the age of 16, I know how important the safety net is for under 25's. I mean WTF would I have done on the few occasions < 6 months I had no income? Rob people? Where I lived in Cornwall in the winter there is hardly a readily available supply of jobs and claiming benefits is really the last option. Cameron is totally out of touch with reality! He assumes that everyone a) has parents that can support them and can live at home with them for free. What a complete cluster feck of an idiot! He is so out of touch with reality it is unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Profit is not a dirty word But what is on the other side of the balance sheet? Debt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britney's Piers Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The Prime Minister used his speech to the Tory party conference to set out his vision of Britain as a 'land of opportunity' where everyone has the chance to get a decent job, buy a home or start a business. You mean, how it used to be 40 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) So now the only way to get benefits if you are unemployed and aged 16-24 will be to pop out a few sprogs. Edited October 2, 2013 by Dorkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopGun Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Workfare Bid for work Zero hours No dole etc etc Will all be rolled out for the under 25s. Then should no one put a stop to that, they'll extend it to everyone else. Time all the young converted to traveler status, and camp out en mass on Cameron's lawns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectors House Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 U25 housing benefit recipients include 169k single mums, 1700 single dads, and 32k couples with childrenFaisal Islam (@faisalislam) Economics Editor, @Channel4News on twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It's baffling that these attacks keep coming against people on the dole. JSA is a pathetic £70 a week, you may as well give it to everybody as a citizen's income and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 So now the only way to get benefits if you are unemployed and aged 16-24 will be to pop out a few sprogs. Edumacation. They'll give everybody a £10k/yr loan at age sixteen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy666 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 More war calls! As someone who left a broken home at the age of 16, I know how important the safety net is for under 25's. I mean WTF would I have done on the few occasions < 6 months I had no income? Rob people? Where I lived in Cornwall in the winter there is hardly a readily available supply of jobs and claiming benefits is really the last option. Cameron is totally out of touch with reality! He assumes that everyone a) has parents that can support them and can live at home with them for free. What a complete cluster feck of an idiot! He is so out of touch with reality it is unbelievable. http://www.literature.org/authors/dickens-charles/christmas-carol/chapter-01.html ``I wish to be left alone,'' said Scrooge. ``Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there.'' ``Many can't go there; and many would rather die.'' ``If they would rather die,'' said Scrooge, ``they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides -- excuse me -- I don't know that.'' ``But you might know it,'' observed the gentleman. ``It's not my business,'' Scrooge returned. ``It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!'' Although I do think that it is unfair to compare Scrooge with the current Conservative party leadership - after all, Scrooge actually built up his own business through hard work, and was capable of learning from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopGun Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 U25 housing benefit recipients include 169k single mums, 1700 single dads, and 32k couples with children Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) Economics Editor, @Channel4News on twitter = 202,700 properties BTL landlords are making a packet from with U25s alone. Don't worry, Cameron will soon back down once his rentier buddies remind him how much out of pocket they'll be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynardgravy Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 On the upside they would have reached their unemployment target sooner than planned and be fresh out of excuses not to raise interest rates. That's where raising the pension age will come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) It's baffling that these attacks keep coming against people on the dole. JSA is a pathetic £70 a week, you may as well give it to everybody as a citizen's income and be done with it. Yep. Dole payments cost UK taxpayers about the same as the EU farm subsidies diverted back to the likes of IDS and other rich landowners (about 3k a week in IDS's case). But let's focus on the £70 a week (£60 if you're a nipper) and not those what. Jolly good show! Benefits for rich because obviously they deserve them! Edited October 2, 2013 by byron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It's baffling that these attacks keep coming against people on the dole. JSA is a pathetic £70 a week, you may as well give it to everybody as a citizen's income and be done with it. JSA is only £56.80 if you are under 25, there is already an age apartheid there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) Edumacation. They'll give everybody a £10k/yr loan at age sixteen. Yes I think the under 25's are about to go 'off balance sheet' Can't have the young idle with the nothing to do. They might cause trouble. Edited October 2, 2013 by aSecureTenant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectors House Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 44% of U25 Housing benefit recipients are single mums: Table from a 2012 Steve Webb parliamentary answer: pic.twitter.com/dpUVokdl7A from same twitter source as above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The Conservative party is signing its own death warrant with its constant abuse of the young. People who are young now are not going to forget this treatment, and the true blue codgers who think they are voting for Thatcher or Macmillan are not going to live forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy soy Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Desperation tactics from an out of touch toff, trying to curry favour with the daily mail generation. Apparently he thinks the public still blame unemployed u25s for the mess we are in.there are a lot of selfish old darts that will lap this up though. Just like milliband said, he's strong when taking on the weak, but he is weak when taking on the strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 JSA is only £56.80 if you are under 25, there is already an age apartheid there. To be fair one day an under 25 will be an over 25 and what has an under 25 put into the pot so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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