@contradevian Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Caught this yesterday on Twitter but was too busy to post. Quite frankly I am speechless. Lord Freud also said the Department for Work and Pensions is working up an alternative to restrictive ‘zero hours contracts’, where workers are contracted to an employer but not guaranteed any hours.He said: ‘One of the things we are testing is something called “slivers of time”. It is a marketplace for short hours. You would get yourself onto Tesco basic training, so you would be able to work for Tesco. Then Tesco would say “right, we want three hours on Wednesday afternoon – what am I bid?”. That group would say “I’ll do it for £10 an hour, £15 an hour, £30 an hour, whatever, so there would be a marketplace” and we are testing that out.’ Also he expects Universal Credit to be rolled out 2017 Although he declined to give any further information on the ‘randomised tests’ and what they would cover, the minister reiterated his confidence universal credit would be fully operational by the stated deadline of 2017. And to make matters worse he gives a wink to private landlords that the benefit cap will be increased if house prices start to push up rents. The minister in charge of UK welfare reform has reiterated a pledge that a cap on housing benefit payments to the rate of inflation will be monitored and altered if it fails to keep pace with rents. Speaking on Sunday evening at the Conservative Party conference at a fringe session on welfare, organised by think tank NatCen, welfare minister Lord David Freud also said a series of ‘randomised trials’ – including on housing – were being introduced to measure the impact of welfare changes into the single universal credit. In response to a question on what concerns he had on rising house prices feeding through to increase rents and hence squeezing people in receipt of housing benefit, Lord Freud said: ‘Clearly we will keep under review the workings of the consumer price index cap. We will be monitoring how that CPI cap works as clearly we can’t put it on forever. And we will make the appropriate adjustments on the basis of what we find.’ http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/regulation/housing-benefit-cap-will-be-kept-under-review-says-freud/6528809.article?PageNo=2&SortOrder=dateadded&PageSize=10#comments Only a matter of time before the Tories are clopping around in high boots, their corporate fascism is on show for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 How many Freudians does it take to change a light bulb? http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/1ehds5/how_many_freudians_does_it_take_to_change_a_light/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamborn Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Someone needs to tell Lord Freud that HMRC doesn't have any teams working on the real time data interface so UC cant ever come in.Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Someone needs to tell Lord Freud that HMRC doesn't have any teams working on the real time data interface so UC cant ever come in.Ever. May have been a Freudian slip. I'll get my coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Eventually people will end up bidding for Help to Buy Slivers of Housing. It would be a marketplace don't you know. At any rate no worries - the LibDems will be a moderating influence on it Edited October 1, 2013 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Goldfish Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Surely, this man's delusional? Tesco will be paying them NMW - and choosing who they want. He seems to be one of those free market academics who has no idea of how the world works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gardener Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Mental. Just mental. How do we get rid of this shower of shite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 slivers send the shivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Surely, this man's delusional? Tesco will be paying them NMW - and choosing who they want. He seems to be one of those free market academics who has no idea of how the world works. Free marketeers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 And to make matters worse he gives a wink to private landlords that the benefit cap will be increased if house prices start to push up rents. Just fecking mental. How does that work in austerity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Gordon Brown is looking better everyday. When the history books are written they may say he was the best prime minister of the 21 century Why is there no crying Emoticons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Just fecking mental. How does that work in austerity! How does it work in any sort of rational argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It would be quicker to flag up the few Tories still in touch with reality frankly. The Lib Dems and the coalition is (rightly) much derided, but by Dawkins it'd be so much worse if the Tories had carte blanche to do all the mental things they secretly still want to do but can't until they buy the next election with our money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Someone needs to tell Lord Freud that HMRC doesn't have any teams working on the real time data interface so UC cant ever come in.Ever. For real or just jesting ? genuine question btw (the hmrc bit) I have always thought it would lead to internal battles as parts of the civil service could end up looking more than a little redundant if UC was running successfully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy666 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It would be quicker to flag up the few Tories still in touch with reality frankly. The Lib Dems and the coalition is (rightly) much derided, but by Dawkins it'd be so much worse if the Tories had carte blanche to do all the mental things they secretly still want to do but can't until they buy the next election with our money. It's an interesting political problem. All the mainstream parties have problems with declining membership. This gives two problems - the membership tends to be older, especially for the conservatives - and the remaining members tend to be the most howling mad fanatics committed. And there is a feedback, since that kind of membership tends to drive out the rational ones. And the smaller the membership, the easier the capture by fringe elements. If you look at America for how this goes, you end up with Tea Party nutcases driving policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopGun Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It's an interesting political problem. All the mainstream parties have problems with declining membership. This gives two problems - the membership tends to be older, especially for the conservatives - and the remaining members tend to be the most howling mad fanatics committed. And there is a feedback, since that kind of membership tends to drive out the rational ones. And the smaller the membership, the easier the capture by fringe elements. If you look at America for how this goes, you end up with Tea Party nutcases driving policy. Post of the day for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eight Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It's an interesting political problem. All the mainstream parties have problems with declining membership. This gives two problems - the membership tends to be older, especially for the conservatives - and the remaining members tend to be the most howling mad fanatics committed. And there is a feedback, since that kind of membership tends to drive out the rational ones. And the smaller the membership, the easier the capture by fringe elements. If you look at America for how this goes, you end up with Tea Party nutcases driving policy. I was having exactly the same conversation with my father this morning. Political parties are, I think, the problem with democracy. They should be outlawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderpup Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Funny how when it comes to wages the free market is a Tory sacred cow- but when it comes to house prices it's state subsidies all the way to keep those prices up-( no nasty free market will be allowed to screw with their BTL portfolio.) I spot a problem- what if the free market arrives at wages that are not high enough to support the inflated prices of the houses? Does Cameron's head explode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash4781 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 So it's some kind of reverse auction system? Not sure how this works for Tesco. Do they not just go to a temp agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I was having exactly the same conversation with my father this morning. Political parties are, I think, the problem with democracy. They should be outlawed. Funnily enough that was one of the underlying principles for the us constitution and the electoral college. Didn't quite work out in the end.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf3 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I would like to be trained as a banker just a million pound bonus would be enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eight Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Funnily enough that was one of the underlying principles for the us constitution and the electoral college. Didn't quite work out in the end.. Well quite apart from undemocratic horrors like the party whips, you end up with "franchise" politics where only one of the two name parties can be elected - even if, as was the case with NuLabour, there is no connection with the founding rationale of that party. Plus the media handling - why should it be a matter for the national news what was or wasn't said at a party conference? Anybody who cares that much could join the party and attend, or wait for the newsletter. I'm a member of a few esoteric interest societies and the AGM's of none of them are reported in the wider media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricor mortis Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Funny how when it comes to wages the free market is a Tory sacred cow- but when it comes to house prices it's state subsidies all the way to keep those prices up-( no nasty free market will be allowed to screw with their BTL portfolio.) I spot a problem- what if the free market arrives at wages that are not high enough to support the inflated prices of the houses? Does Cameron's head explode? Hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Funny how when it comes to wages the free market is a Tory sacred cow- but when it comes to house prices it's state subsidies all the way to keep those prices up-( no nasty free market will be allowed to screw with their BTL portfolio.) I spot a problem- what if the free market arrives at wages that are not high enough to support the inflated prices of the houses? Does Cameron's head explode? Help 2 Rent. They lend you the money to pay the rent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderpup Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) Help 2 Rent. They lend you the money to pay the rent. Given the strength of the BTL lobby it's only a matter of time. Edited October 2, 2013 by wonderpup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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