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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/power-corrupts-but-it-also-plays-with-your-mind-lloyd-george-chamberlain-and-thatcher-all-suffered-from-hubris-syndrome-8831839.html

If we are to understand – and more crucially – prevent disasters such as the global financial crisis or escalation of conflict in the Middle East, we might do worse than turn to the ancient Greeks to learn a thing or two. Three thousand years ago, leaders were humiliated and brought to their knees by hubris, and things have not changed much since.

Britain's current leaders in both business and politics should be much more aware of their hubristic tendencies, and take steps to avoid the development of hubris syndrome (HS), an acquired personality disorder which, unchecked, can result in disastrous decision-making, a conference at the Judge Business School at the University of Cambridge was told last week.

British Prime Ministers such as Lloyd George, Chamberlain and Thatcher and US President George W Bush met the clinical diagnosis of HS, first described in 2009 by Lord Owen, the former British foreign secretary, who is a trained neurologist.

With a US colleague, Jonathan Davidson, he described its characteristic pattern of exuberant overconfidence, recklessness and contempt for others. However, those in positions of power in any area of society can be vulnerable to HS, not just politicians.

Lord Owen defined HS as a "disorder of the possession of power, particularly power associated with overwhelming success, held for a period of years and with minimal constraints on the leader".

"Hubris is present in all of us. It's not inevitable but the pressures are there," Manfred Kets de Vries, a specialist on leadership, said. "The worry is when people give way to it."

According to researchers, many people who reach senior positions have done so through well-ordered selection procedures. They appear normal and well balanced but are more likely to develop HS the longer they stay in high-ranking positions.

The trouble is if they have developed this just how the hell do you get rid of them if they've just won an election? Should political leaders be psychologically monitored? It could have saved us from both Blair and Brown.

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I think one good thing about the 'merkin system (and some others) is the two-term limit on presidents. History tells us that even the best leaders tend to go mad given too long at the top. In the UK, Thatcher ran out of steam after two terms; Blair was mad all along; Brown went mad after one term as chancellor.

Whither Merkel?

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So it's a 'syndrome' invented by David Owen as a way of smearing political opponents?

Sounds about right.

The left came up with The Authoritarian Personality to smear the right and if you browse American HBD forums you'll often see Liberalism described as a mental illness. After all, from a genetic fitness perspective the sort of people who have no, or very few kids, and also encourage the immigration into their living space of hostile aliens who will outbreed them and eventually displace them, liberalism does indeed seem like a mental illness - wouldn't find that kind of madness in the animal world now would you?

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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/power-corrupts-but-it-also-plays-with-your-mind-lloyd-george-chamberlain-and-thatcher-all-suffered-from-hubris-syndrome-8831839.html

The trouble is if they have developed this just how the hell do you get rid of them if they've just won an election? Should political leaders be psychologically monitored? It could have saved us from both Blair and Brown.

What a load of old ********

Chamberlain was only Prime Minister for 3 years from 1937-1940 so he hardly held untrammeled power for years

Lloyd-George for all his flaws was probably the most gifted British politician of the 20th Century. His achievements as Minister of Munitions in World War 1 are still unsurpassed as an act of industrial organisation for total war

Thatcher electorally routed all the political parties to which that David Owen belonged for over a decade.

Owen is a political pygmy compared even to Chamberlain. Why his ramblings are even given space in the press is beyond me . It is not as though he ever achieved anything when he was in office

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question you are afraid to even ask:

WTF is Hubris?...can I catch it?...is there a pill for it? Is it like MRSA...it seems we all have it, and therefore are infecting others with it...should I wash my hands after visiting the toilet?

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WTF is Hubris?...can I catch it?...is there a pill for it? Is it like MRSA...it seems we all have it, and therefore are infecting others with it...should I wash my hands after visiting the toilet?

Hubris is an anglicisation of ὕβρις, and has very strong connotations of abuse of power, that would lead to Νέμεσις.

It could be on a grand scale (as in classic greek tragedy) or even cosmic (as in the fall of Lucifer). Or apparently it could speak of abuse of power at the personal level, in what would now be the office bully or domestic abuser.

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Hubris is an anglicisation of ὕβρις, and has very strong connotations of abuse of power, that would lead to Νέμεσις.

It could be on a grand scale (as in classic greek tragedy) or even cosmic (as in the fall of Lucifer). Or apparently it could speak of abuse of power at the personal level, in what would now be the office bully or domestic abuser.

seems any person criminally inclined to abuse in whatever form would be extra vulnerable...

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Sounds about right.

The left came up with The Authoritarian Personality to smear the right and if you browse American HBD forums you'll often see Liberalism described as a mental illness. After all, from a genetic fitness perspective the sort of people who have no, or very few kids, and also encourage the immigration into their living space of hostile aliens who will outbreed them and eventually displace them, liberalism does indeed seem like a mental illness - wouldn't find that kind of madness in the animal world now would you?

I remember being introduced to the Authoritarian personality ideas in the 1970's on a psychology course I did at uni.

I have always regarded the real authoritarian personalities as the (so-called left wing) statists and beaurocratic micromanagers. But then I don't really subsribe to the Left-Right political model, especially as Communism and Fascism (National/ Industrial Socialism) are so similar in many ways.

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I remember being introduced to the Authoritarian personality ideas in the 1970's on a psychology course I did at uni.

I have always regarded the real authoritarian personalities as the (so-called left wing) statists and beaurocratic micromanagers. But then I don't really subsribe to the Left-Right political model, especially as Communism and Fascism (National/ Industrial Socialism) are so similar in many ways.

Indeed, the harder the problem, the more you can provide everyone with a list to complete, check and hand in, the more control you have over the problem, et voila, so to has gone the culpability as the list is all.

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When can I be in charge of everything?

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