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Mps’ Expenses Bill Soars To Record £98M

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/429051/MPs-expenses-bill-soars-to-record-98m

THE bill for MPs’ taxpayer-funded expenses soared by £7million last year to a record total of nearly £100million, official figures revealed yesterday.

The huge sum – higher than before the Westminster expenses scandal four years ago – was up eight per cent compared with the previous 12 months following an increase in the number of staff employed by MPs in their parliamentary offices.

Around 150 MPs have given jobs to their spouses and other relatives, according to the records.

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New data from IPSA reveals that through employing two of her daughters to work in her office, the taxpayer paid the Dorries girls up to £145,000 last year. More than the PM. 28 year old Philippa Dorries earned between £40,000 and £44,999 as her office manager, while Jennifer Dorries raked in £30,000 to £34,999 as a senior secretary. Nadine earns £65,000 as Member for Mid Bedfordshire.

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I was thinking about how it would be possible to put a stop to this, but i can't see how.

If you say no MP is allowed to employ a family member, that's not a problem - just employ a fellow MPs daughter and have them employ yours.

You could say no family member of an MP is allowed to be employed in a capacity directly employed by any MPs office, but that's not entirely fair either.

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I was thinking about how it would be possible to put a stop to this, but i can't see how.

If you say no MP is allowed to employ a family member, that's not a problem - just employ a fellow MPs daughter and have them employ yours.

You could say no family member of an MP is allowed to be employed in a capacity directly employed by any MPs office, but that's not entirely fair either.

It's a great little business being an MP, if you can get a safe seat your family could do very well out of it. Can MP's set whatever salary they like when employing an Office Manager etc????

The only way around it would be to have the local MP office already staffed and managed say by the civil service, so no matter who is elected the MP's support team is already in place and have their own office and they can't then start employing their own staff.

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Membership of the house of commons is a powerful incentive for parties to crush any upstarts such as UKIP. LibLabCon MPS are effectively majority partners in a law firm that churns a couple of hundred million £ of tax payers money through their coffers each year.

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I was thinking about how it would be possible to put a stop to this, but i can't see how.

I was vaguely contemplating the notion that it's not unreasonable of us to expect politicians to behave with absolute propriety. No ifs, no buts - they should follow the letter, rule and spirit of the law, and should be treated as pariahs if they don't.

Then I had a good laugh and a cup of tea.

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I've just about had enough. I can't see any point or hope in bothering to fight this attitude of corrupt short sighted selfishness that prevails in the establishment and much of the population here. I'm one push away from becoming the sort of cold hearted look out for number one type I hate. If no one else gives a damn then they deserve to live in a country filled with tricksters and con artists ready to rip off anyone for a quick buck. All the politicians and councillors can go on leading by example and then bask in the cesspit of mistrust and isolation that the UK will become.

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I wonder how many of these 'jobs' that MP's family members have were openly advertised to find the best applicant?

even if they were, what are the chances so many family members would be the best applicant?

Its not just mps either - in universities the same thing happens too (one half of a couple gets a job, then mysteriously the other half gets a job despite often no job having being advertised!). I wonder how many careers this is widespread practice in?

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I've just about had enough.

I don't think you're alone. Are they really this stupid? Do they honestly think that there is no limit to what we will put up with?

I'm a fifty year old man with a reasonable job, two kids, etc. - hardly revolutionary material - but I'm sincerely getting to the point where I'd be happy to see these scum strung up from lamp posts. The arrogant amorality is just astounding.

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I don't think you're alone. Are they really this stupid? Do they honestly think that there is no limit to what we will put up with?

probably not - all the evidence is most people wil vote for the big two parties every time? So I think they can basically do whatever they want, unless we have a seismic change in the way things work.

What we need is a clean alternative being offered - a candidate in every constituency, backed up by investigative journalists who would pore over the big parties candidates expenses and backhanders. Then relentlessly publish this information within the constituency. Probably a lot of this information is already published in private eye and could even simply be passed on to the electorate in the campaign.

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in universities the same thing happens too (one half of a couple gets a job, then mysteriously the other half gets a job despite often no job having being advertised!). I wonder how many careers this is widespread practice in?

I've worked in a university for 6 years and have never seen this. There are strict rules about jobs being advertised openly on the external website for at least 2 weeks, there needing to be at least 3 people on the interview panel etc.

Where did you get this idea from?

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I've worked in a university for 6 years and have never seen this. There are strict rules about jobs being advertised openly on the external website for at least 2 weeks, there needing to be at least 3 people on the interview panel etc.

Where did you get this idea from?

because I work in a very specialised research area, everyone knows every job advertised (because not many come up) and I have seen this happen once - no job advertised in the usual expected places, yet the spouse acquired a permenant position within the same department. No job advertised in the places everyone looks of course does not mean they did not advertise it on an external website.

Furthermore just counting the number of couples working in the same department strongly suggests something is amiss because the odds of getting a job are very low, the odds of a couple managing to get a job in the same research group even lower. The odds of this happening nearly every time a couple works in the same research field has made a lot of people rather suspicous about what exactly is going on at certain universities.

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A secretarial pool and a bunk house - problem solved.

Millions saved.

I put my colleague's mortgage on my expense slip and he put my mortgage on his. My employer had a fit.

Don't get it.

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because I work in a very specialised research area, everyone knows every job advertised (because not many come up) and I have seen this happen once - no job advertised in the usual expected places, yet the spouse acquired a permenant position within the same department. No job advertised in the places everyone looks of course does not mean they did not advertise it on an external website.

Furthermore just counting the number of couples working in the same department strongly suggests something is amiss because the odds of getting a job are very low, the odds of a couple managing to get a job in the same research group even lower. The odds of this happening nearly every time a couple works in the same research field has made a lot of people rather suspicous about what exactly is going on at certain universities.

I agree. A lot of nutrition papers with two of the authors having the same surname, one male, one female.

Perhaps they met after the project started, but unlikely.

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I wonder how many of these 'jobs' that MP's family members have were openly advertised to find the best applicant?

The best applicantt is your sister! :lol:

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I wonder how many of these 'jobs' that MP's family members have were openly advertised to find the best applicant?

I would suggest some targetted use of the Freedom of Information Act given that this is public expenditure.

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I wonder how many of these 'jobs' that MP's family members have were openly advertised to find the best applicant?

All I imagine. They probably have a compliance officer on 150k to ensure tis so.

PCC - how many staff do they have now?

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