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Trade Unions To Campaign For Social House Building And Private Rent Controls

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From inside housing;

http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/regulation/unions-to-campaign-for-new-social-homes/6528470.article

Seems sensible to spend taxpayer money building social homes that are a government asset and can generate an income rather than throwing the money down the drain at private landlords (many of whom pay little tax in this country and many of them are not even British citizens).

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From inside housing;

http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/regulation/unions-to-campaign-for-new-social-homes/6528470.article

Seems sensible to spend taxpayer money building social homes that are a government asset and can generate an income rather than throwing the money down the drain at private landlords (many of whom pay little tax in this country and many of them are not even British citizens).

Good.

Though I'm not sure about rent caps, though if we do impose them it should follow the german system which appears to work quite well.

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Good.

Though I'm not sure about rent caps, though if we do impose them it should follow the german system which appears to work quite well.

Just read one of the speeches made by a Union President. They do sound like they are on a warpath as far as housing policy is concerned. It would be great if the Unions forced Labour to adopt these policies as perhaps it would live up to its name rather than the wishy washy "nu Labour" of the last few decades. We need a strong group to stand up for renters in this country, hopefully the trades unions will at least bring some heat to the debate.

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From inside housing;

http://www.insidehou...6528470.article

Seems sensible to spend taxpayer money building social homes that are a government asset and can generate an income rather than throwing the money down the drain at private landlords (many of whom pay little tax in this country and many of them are not even British citizens).

what about to build cheap houses for the middleclass too ???

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what about to build cheap houses for the middleclass too ???

I'd like this too, although the middle class will do very well even if they do just build social housing for the working class. More housing stock is only ever a good thing in terms of lower prices.

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These are far too sensible policies for the Trades Union Congress. What's going on??

In all seriousness there's a very positive side to unions that seems to have been bludgeoned out of all existence by bad press and greedy union bosses. When they function well, they at least look after British people and workers , which is more than you can say for most MPs or private companies.

Edited by byron78

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I can support more council house building and the removal of right to buy, but I don't see why rent controls are needed. I also cannot support more expansion of housing associations. These are just a gravy train for rich socialists which can offer shared equity homes which are a rip-off. The planning system needs to be relaxed for everyone too. If there was an abundance of building land, the price of new homes would reduce.

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Maybe this switch to sensible policies is because of the situation with Labour.

Labour no longer represent working people and haven't done for a long time. In fact politicians of all stripes don't represent anyone much, hence low election turn outs. The general populace are waking up to this, helped in a large part by the utter betrayal by the Liberal Democrats.

Eidt : Just to add I support Milliband in his efforts to not have any of my union money, because of the above reasons. He won't be getting me to join up as an individual either.

Edited by Ulfar

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I can support more council house building and the removal of right to buy, but I don't see why rent controls are needed. I also cannot support more expansion of housing associations. These are just a gravy train for rich socialists which can offer shared equity homes which are a rip-off. The planning system needs to be relaxed for everyone too. If there was an abundance of building land, the price of new homes would reduce.

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but the problem is for the right wing that it would reduce their current equities

and the problem for the left wing is that they want to centrally control pure via the social housing vehicle

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These are far too sensible policies for the Trades Union Congress. What's going on??

The definition of sensible has changed. What has been regarded as sensible for 30 years now doesn't look so sensible.

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Unlikely to happen. Have to have false scarcity in the property and rental market to maintain values.

The private sector is already making the correction and reverting to type. The State provided spacious social homes built in the 60/70's to Parker Morris standards, in the noughties the private sector gave us 'beds in sheds' and unlicenced HMO's in former family homes.

I've seen the future and it resembles something out of Dickens London.

I will be voting Labour locally out of pure self interest as the socialist council is committed to social housing and the maintenance of secure tenancies.

Edited by aSecureTenant

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1. Mass building of social housing

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2. Slowly move social housing away from private landlords

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Tax on empty multiple properties

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3. Reduced competitive private rents and/or

4. Mass flogging of BTL/speculative property on to the market.

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what about to build cheap houses for the middleclass too ???

A mass (social) house building programme would bring prices down as there would be less people needing to rent from private landlords. Rents in the PRS would fall and those landlords that could no longer make the income they feel they deserved would sell up, meaning more homes for normal human beings who want a home rather than an "investment".

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Who would actually build this though?

A government built house would cost 1/2 Million quid and be slightly tilted, and building companies have no interest in doing anything that may effect their share price.

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A mass (social) house building programme would bring prices down as there would be less people needing to rent from private landlords. Rents in the PRS would fall and those landlords that could no longer make the income they feel they deserved would sell up, meaning more homes for normal human beings who want a home rather than an "investment".

If only more people said that in 1987 when the private rental market was deregulated and the PRS replaced social housing.

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If only more people said that in 1987 when the private rental market was deregulated and the PRS replaced social housing.

It was hoped that universal access to credit (sub prime) would obsolete social housing, but social housing wouldn't have blown up the economy.

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It was hoped that universal access to credit (sub prime) would obsolete social housing, but social housing wouldn't have blown up the economy.

It could have worked if rents continued to be regulated in such a way that they gave a fair return on investment together with a fair deal for tenants and taxpayers. Nobody would have invested in the rental market before 1987 but things went from one extreme to the other. Once property became a better investment prospect than pretty much everything else because of tax breaks and hb following rents rather than the other way around then the seeds were sown for what the UK has today.

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Who would actually build this though?

A government built house would cost 1/2 Million quid and be slightly tilted, and building companies have no interest in doing anything that may effect their share price.

Somehow we managed it before. As long as it's not done through some PFI style deal..

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Who would actually build this though?

A government built house would cost 1/2 Million quid and be slightly tilted, and building companies have no interest in doing anything that may effect their share price.

We've 2.5 million out of work.

People seem fine with subsidising the unemployed to work for private companies in shops.

Here's an idea: a state house building company that offers training for wannabe builders and regular work for those already squeezed out by private house building companies hiring foreign labour.

Plus, with deregulation of planning there's no need for the biggest price inflater (cost of land) to cost as much as it does if we let 1% of the greenbelt go.

Cost of Labour and materials on an average home is closer to 40-50k I think.

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If only more people said that in 1987 when the private rental market was deregulated and the PRS replaced social housing.

If only your peers (not mine) hadn't voted Thatcher in 3(!) times.

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If only more people said that in 1987 when the private rental market was deregulated and the PRS replaced social housing.

... and led to acceptable-quality housing for the first time ever, for those who were neither rich nor rich-by-proxy (privileged recipients of non-sink-estate council houses) ...

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