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Not for me but Mrs SYNT.

She has a vocational HND and a number of years experience in the retail cosmetics industry. Before our first child, she was manager of a cosmetics counter for 5 years. When she reduced her work it was about £1m turnover and she managed about a dozen staff. For 4 yrs since she has worked part time to suit as normal counter staff.

Our youngest child starts school in 3 years and she is looking at this sort of timescale in doing something.

She is not an OCD type organised person but She is very good at getting things done. Give her a target and she will get there. She likes arranging things, parties, events, sorting problems with customer services etc. She will call people, pester them, broker a deal etc. However, she is not great at attention to detail nor is she particularly interested in the technical side of things. Her verbal comms are good but her written comms are not quite up to scratch (to be fair, English is her 2nd language).

I was thinking that a PM role might suit her or failing that and don't laugh, something like an estate agent if PM is too technical. PM would presumably need some training/quals hence asking 3 years out.

What can off topicers suggest? She wants something that can be fitted in around the kids and earns more than current £70 a day.

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AVON lady. ;)

In her experience, AVON stuff is crap. As she is not a complete sociopath, selling it would be hard.

She has some friends who do this sort of 'tupperware' thing for books, make-up, candles, whatever. Not that appealing.

Offering beauty treatments / make-up sessions would be prefeable to that but initially I'm looking at more formal jobs and roles.

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Greek cake shop or Taverna. Plate maker/importer for the Greek restaurant community. Feta cheese maker. Etc.etc.

Don't diss using one's heritage - it is distinctive and specialised knowledge.

Community can feel a bit of a closed shop and she is on the outside.

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Greek cake shop or Taverna. Plate maker/importer for the Greek restaurant community. Feta cheese maker. Etc.etc.

Don't diss using one's heritage - it is distinctive and specialised knowledge.

Sorry, I don't mean to dismiss entreprenuerial ideas out of hand. We have many, varied ones of these, I might have put a couple in Longtom's old thread.

Today I'm thinking low-risk with a reasonable time for preparation, What job and how to get there? Are there decent training and education concessions for unemployed single mothers?

She has mentioned midwifery...

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In her experience, AVON stuff is crap. As she is not a complete sociopath, selling it would be hard.

i have to say that "Avon Skin so Soft" is the stuff of which legends are made - although not for its original purpose.

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i have to say that "Avon Skin so Soft" is the stuff of which legends are made - although not for its original purpose.

Brilliant stuff for repelling the biting insects ..... ;)

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She sounds like she could be a good PM. However i think the fit around kids part may not link in to well.

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In her experience, AVON stuff is crap. As she is not a complete sociopath, selling it would be hard.

She has some friends who do this sort of 'tupperware' thing for books, make-up, candles, whatever. Not that appealing.

Offering beauty treatments / make-up sessions would be prefeable to that but initially I'm looking at more formal jobs and roles.

...if she can't sell it herself, maybe organising others to sell it on her behalf?

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If you can manage a team, that is a transferable skill! :huh:

Look! That wasn't even a facetious comment! :blink:

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Not for me but Mrs SYNT.

She has a vocational HND and a number of years experience in the retail cosmetics industry. Before our first child, she was manager of a cosmetics counter for 5 years. When she reduced her work it was about £1m turnover and she managed about a dozen staff. For 4 yrs since she has worked part time to suit as normal counter staff.

Our youngest child starts school in 3 years and she is looking at this sort of timescale in doing something.

She is not an OCD type organised person but She is very good at getting things done. Give her a target and she will get there. She likes arranging things, parties, events, sorting problems with customer services etc. She will call people, pester them, broker a deal etc. However, she is not great at attention to detail nor is she particularly interested in the technical side of things. Her verbal comms are good but her written comms are not quite up to scratch (to be fair, English is her 2nd language).

I was thinking that a PM role might suit her or failing that and don't laugh, something like an estate agent if PM is too technical. PM would presumably need some training/quals hence asking 3 years out.

What can off topicers suggest? She wants something that can be fitted in around the kids and earns more than current £70 a day.

Recruitment consultant. Nothing technical - office temps etc etc. Increasingly can be done from home with regular trips to the office.

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Masseur?

Yes, yes, she's qualified for that, move along please. A long time ago but 'let go' from her only therapist job she ever had - nails were the problem, presentation. By the bye now but nails (Gel/extensions) used to be a decent cash in hand hobby but now everyone is at it.

She sounds like she could be a good PM. However i think the fit around kids part may not link in to well.

That's what I thought but most of the Project Engineers/managers I work with have crossed over from a hands on/technical role. Difficult to gauge a entry path via direct entry non-technical.

...if she can't sell it herself, maybe organising others to sell it on her behalf?

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Not interested, would rather look at food and drink than cosmetics

If you can manage a team, that is a transferable skill! :huh:

Look! That wasn't even a facetious comment! :blink:

Why thank you.

Recruitment consultant. Nothing technical - office temps etc etc. Increasingly can be done from home with regular trips to the office.

Good call.

My impression of low level roles in recruitment is a lot of B2B cold calling looking for business. I'm not sure how she'd find this but I also think that some sort of phone and selling role might suit her as long as its not cold calling for PPI claims/loft insulation etc. Not exactly a career is that.

Something in marketing? Events / exhibition planning?

It's finding jobs that's the problem. Not daft enough to think that if you phone around a few people and organise a group to be in one place at the same time you should set yourself up as an event planner. Having a fat **** does not make you J. Lo in the wedding planner,

Looking at roles that would quickly get up to £30k pro-rata otherwise there's little point, so selling roles do seem An obvious choice.

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Sorry, I don't mean to dismiss entreprenuerial ideas out of hand. We have many, varied ones of these, I might have put a couple in Longtom's old thread.

Today I'm thinking low-risk with a reasonable time for preparation, What job and how to get there? Are there decent training and education concessions for unemployed single mothers?

She has mentioned midwifery...

Has she looked into Midwifery? If she's already mentioned that, it's worth further investigation. Training is 3 years I think - comes with a bursary and access to student loans if needed. In NI the finance package is relatively good if there are children under 12. May be different where you are. Also fits the bill of a more formal position that you mentioned.

There is also a shortage of midwifes although that by no means guarantees that there are jobs.

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Has she looked into Midwifery? If she's already mentioned that, it's worth further investigation. Training is 3 years I think - comes with a bursary and access to student loans if needed. In NI the finance package is relatively good if there are children under 12. May be different where you are. Also fits the bill of a more formal position that you mentioned.

There is also a shortage of midwifes although that by no means guarantees that there are jobs.

If you could call having had 2 kids, 'looked into', then yes she has.

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That's what I thought but most of the Project Engineers/managers I work with have crossed over from a hands on/technical role. Difficult to gauge a entry path via direct entry non-technical.

Most of the PMs I've worked with haven't. I'm not trying to be contrary here but it does seem an excellent second career. Of the last two I worked with one was ex-forces and the other from some totally different background.

I've done a bit of it myself, I'd only do it on small projects these days as I am too hands on, I find it easier just to do stuff than to keep chasing people to do stuff.

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Foot or hand job? (You had to be the first IRRO...don't think no one else thought that but resisted the temptation!)

You had to bring sex into it!!! Although that clearly would bring in a higher fee per hour...

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