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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/07/single-parents-74-percent-benefit-cap

Families with a single parent make up three-quarters of those losing money in trials of the coalition's £500-a-week benefit cap, new government figures show.

Pilot schemes in four London areas discovered that 74% of people affected by the cap in its first few months were lone parents living with their children.

The effect on single parents in these areas has been found to be bigger than the national picture predicted in the Department for Work and Pensions' impact assessment.

The assessment forecasts that half of those affected will be lone carers with children when the cap, limiting the total amount of benefits paid to claimants' households, is rolled out across Britain.

The pilot schemes, in Croydon, Enfield, Haringey and Bromley, have capped the payments of 2,658 households in total. The majority of families have lost less than £50 a week. However, more than 200 households have lost upwards of £200 a week and 33 more than £350 weekly.

The government has denied its cap is aimed at forcing lone parents with young children to go back to work.

More aimed at supporting marriage and sticking with the person who got you up the duff type policy?

Although do single parents make up the greater proportion of claimants in these areas? The full stats haven't been given.

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More aimed at supporting marriage and sticking with the person who got you up the duff type policy?

Although do single parents make up the greater proportion of claimants in these areas? The full stats haven't been given.

Whichever way it is cut, the cap will have an impact. It's not really in the Grauniad's playbook to ask whether the cut is justified, it just rails against anything which involves a retrenchment of it's beloved redistributional stance. Nevermind that some of the people paying for various benefits are worse off than the recipients.

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More aimed at supporting marriage and sticking with the person who got you up the duff type policy?

Although do single parents make up the greater proportion of claimants in these areas? The full stats haven't been given.

What happens if the person who got you up the duff walks out?

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Its highly likely over a third of those "single" parents aren't single at all.A very large percentage will have live in partners or semi live in ones.

I had some figures a while back from a council estate near me from the council (they get benefit statements for council tax from the tax office for tax credits and the DWP).Before tax credits 38% of families were down as single parents,after tax credits 69% of them were,The figures said in the year after tax credits 30% of families split up from their partners in 6 weeks on the estate.One address had 1 single guy living there,and then 9 "single" men had it down as their address (private let).

Tax credits main fraud is this and its the one they never ever investigate.The Guardian don't seem to understand welfare very well.

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......single parents do not always stay single forever, so what do you do?.......say you now have a boyfriend (not the child/s father) we want the house back, we want your new boyfriend to pay for you and someone else's children....just saying. ;)

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What happens if the person who got you up the duff walks out?

...I think those that think they are more deserving because they work harder, tried harder at school, got a better paid for education at the right school, never made any mistakes in life, were fortunate to be born into a 'better' more wealthier family who can afford to support them, have more opportunities open to them......are so much more worthy than others who have had to fight their corner whilst facing all kinds of adversities and uphill struggles.....they should flounder and perish....let the weak fade and die, take away all that they have got that they never worked for, only the strong deserve to have it all. ;)

Edited by winkie

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What happens if the person who got you up the duff walks out?

What happens if the government arranges the benefits system so that mum and the kids are actually better off financially if dad is not around?

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All London areas. Not hard to eat up the £500/wk cap on housing benefit alone there.

Wtf? I can easily get a 2 bed flat in a fairly nice area in london for about £240 a week.

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What happens if the government arranges the benefits system so that mum and the kids are actually better off financially if dad is not around?

They are better off if dads not around , over here in n.ireland

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What about someone with no kids who'se working retail and can't afford a pot to pi$$ in, but is still paying north of 20% in tax/NI?

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What about someone with no kids who'se working retail and can't afford a pot to pi$$ in, but is still paying north of 20% in tax/NI?

The working poor, especially those without children, are of no concern to mainstream politicos of any colour. The left take their votes for granted and the right know they can't get them. Remains to be seen if UKIP's voting pattern in South Shields can be replicated elsewhere, which would signal a shift.

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No one really believes all these women or men are single do they.?? no one having se x any more? single on paper not in reality.

As a (male) single parent, I can confirm that having kids around severely curtails shagging opportunities.

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I am not happy with my taxes paying for people to have kids they can't afford, and force up my own cost of living in the process. This madness must stop soon.

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Its highly likely over a third of those "single" parents aren't single at all.A very large percentage will have live in partners or semi live in ones.

I had some figures a while back from a council estate near me from the council (they get benefit statements for council tax from the tax office for tax credits and the DWP).Before tax credits 38% of families were down as single parents,after tax credits 69% of them were,The figures said in the year after tax credits 30% of families split up from their partners in 6 weeks on the estate.One address had 1 single guy living there,and then 9 "single" men had it down as their address (private let).

Tax credits main fraud is this and its the one they never ever investigate.The Guardian don't seem to understand welfare very well.

Current economic incentives are to buy property and get divorced.

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I am not happy with my taxes paying for people to have kids they can't afford, and force up my own cost of living in the process. This madness must stop soon.

Are you happy that the majority of your taxes indirectly funds a small minority of international corporations?

Who are the real benefits of this system?

The poor who live on the breadline? Or the people they pay rent to? The supermarkets they spend their money in? And when they work their taxes are given in subsidies to large land owners. Or large pharmaceutical companies.

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How on earth does a single parent manage to spend £500 a week, that's untaxed 26k a year

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Are you happy that the majority of your taxes indirectly funds a small minority of international corporations?

Who are the real benefits of this system?

The poor who live on the breadline? Or the people they pay rent to? The supermarkets they spend their money in? And when they work their taxes are given in subsidies to large land owners. Or large pharmaceutical companies.

Would you care to back any of that up with references or arguments?

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What happens if the person who got you up the duff walks out?

They usually walk out and claim housing benefit for another property, far to easy in this country.

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Would you care to back any of that up with references or arguments?

Ok.

When a single person receives Housing Benefit where does that go? It goes to the owner of the property while the single person gets to live in the house for a month. So the home owner benefits as much as the single person. After 20 years living in the property they can be kicked out whereas the owner has paid off their mortgage. Thus they gain the most from Housing Benefit.

So your taxes are not going into the pocket of some benefit scrounger but into the bank account of a landlord.

All this complaining about some poor guy on a council estate while the real beneficiaries are ignored:

http://www.monbiot.com/2013/07/01/robber-barons/

The minister responsible for cutting income support for the poor, Iain Duncan Smith, lives on an estate owned by his wife’s family. Over the past ten years, it has received €1.5m in income support from taxpayers. How much more obvious do these double standards have to be before we begin to notice?

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Ok.

When a single person receives Housing Benefit where does that go? It goes to the owner of the property while the single person gets to live in the house for a month. So the home owner benefits as much as the single person. After 20 years living in the property they can be kicked out whereas the owner has paid off their mortgage. Thus they gain the most from Housing Benefit.

So your taxes are not going into the pocket of some benefit scrounger but into the bank account of a landlord.

All this complaining about some poor guy on a council estate while the real beneficiaries are ignored:

http://www.monbiot.com/2013/07/01/robber-barons/

Unless the owner of the property is seeing a negative yield vav other asset yields

But if what you are saying is that benefits need to be cut because they distort general living cost and subsidise the wrong people then I agree

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What happens if the person who got you up the duff walks out?

Child Support Agency? Do we know if child support is included in the income of these single parents when this cap is calculated?

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I am not happy with my taxes paying for people to have kids they can't afford, and force up my own cost of living in the process. This madness must stop soon.

in a nutshell your correct. <_<

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