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America's Scariest Airport Could Add More Thrills With 's-Curve' Takeoff

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/07/newport-beach-john-wayne-airport-takeoff

It is already known for one of America's most stomach-churning takeoffs, an abrupt, steep ascent which can make passengers feel like they are blasting into space.

Now John Wayne airport at Newport Beach, California, is threatening to ratchet up the white-knuckle factor another notch by forcing planes to slalom as they climb into the sky.

City authorities are lobbying for a new "S-curve" takeoff route to further muffle the noise of departing aircraft and protect the tranquility of well-heeled residents. The "required navigation performance departure" would oblige aircraft, which already takeoff at an unusually steep angle, to make an additional swerve to level out over the bay rather than neighbourhoods.

The Federal Aviation Administration said it did not know if such a takeoff was technically possible but would consider the request.

If it was over flying poor people we all know what the answer is but rich people buy near an airport we'll bend over double for you sir!

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If it was over flying poor people we all know what the answer is but rich people buy near an airport we'll bend over double for you sir!

Wonder if they might be at risk of falling aircraft with that kind of aerobatics? Hopefully fall on the Nimbys. What has been there the longest - the houses or the airport?

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This really is an illustration of house price snobbery and NIMBY-ism. Orange County/John Wayne is, like Burbank to the north of LA, in a very affluent area, with Irvine on one side (universities, high-tech indistries) and Huntington, Sunset and Seal Beaches on the other (rich kids' playground). It is jammed to capacity and subject to all the problems that come with that - delays, traffic jams, long queues for the x-ray check etc. Only 40 minutes' drive away is Ontario Airport, in the econmically depressed Inland Empire. It's probably not much smaller than Heathrow in terms of its capacity, but its total traffic has now dwindled to a couple of dozen flights a day and one of its terminals is effectively mothballed. You can show up only 20 minutes before boarding time and still get on the plane easily.

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Wonder if they might be at risk of falling aircraft with that kind of aerobatics? Hopefully fall on the Nimbys. What has been there the longest - the houses or the airport?

I had that thought as well, especially with the comment of they if it's technically possible. Sounds like they will be pushing the aircraft to the limits to achieve it leaving very little room for manoeuvre in case of engine failure during take-off etc...

This really is an illustration of house price snobbery and NIMBY-ism. Orange County/John Wayne is, like Burbank to the north of LA, in a very affluent area, with Irvine on one side (universities, high-tech indistries) and Huntington, Sunset and Seal Beaches on the other (rich kids' playground). It is jammed to capacity and subject to all the problems that come with that - delays, traffic jams, long queues for the x-ray check etc. Only 40 minutes' drive away is Ontario Airport, in the econmically depressed Inland Empire. It's probably not much smaller than Heathrow in terms of its capacity, but its total traffic has now dwindled to a couple of dozen flights a day and one of its terminals is effectively mothballed. You can show up only 20 minutes before boarding time and still get on the plane easily.

So if the rich wanted peace and quiet they could use the other airport and this would easily cut out the noise avoiding all this nonsense of aircraft performing acrobatics on take-off fully loaded.

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So if the rich wanted peace and quiet they could use the other airport and this would easily cut out the noise avoiding all this nonsense of aircraft performing acrobatics on take-off fully loaded.

When I used to be making flying visits to SoCal while still living in Yorkshire, I'd fly either to Palm Springs, Ontario or Orange County. Draw a triangle with those airports at the points, and my final destination was pretty much in the middle in terms of driving time: therefore, I chose the destination airport with the cheapest ticket at the moment I booked. When the time came to board the final flight (usually leaving Salt Lake City or Portland), there was a marked difference between the passengers I'd be sitting with. If it was going to SNA or PSP, the plane was full of ostentatious *****ers behaving accordingly. If it was going to ONT, the plane was full of ordinary human beings just wanting to get home and behaving accordingly.

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