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The story is here .....sorry about the wail post ....but its perfect for here

http://www.dailymail...al-imaging.html

Slough Borough Council is the first local authority in the country to pay for the specially-adapted aircraft to fly over streets picking up heat from sheds and garages.

It spent £24,000 on flights to build up a precise 3D map of every building in the Berkshire town. The results mean thousands could be living there without planning permission or contributing council tax.

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I'm not so sure that it was the beds in sheds were the main target , but thats where the outrage is being sold

Where are these people going to go when turfed out en mass?

Monthly drone overflights coming to a council near you methinks.

council cash cow seen on the horizon, running at full tilt

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Where the hell has the Wail been? This story was in the Sun, the Sunday Times and the HuffPost, and probably others, back in June. And in the local Slough papers at the beginning of the year.

I can't see the council making any money from this. What would they make it on? Even if anyone could be prosecuted, fines go to central government.

Saves on man hours in investigations, too. The council now has an idea what properties to target.

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Presumably these are mostly people who would need housing benefit to live somewhere "proper" so cant see how rounding them all up can possibly be a net gain to the council.

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Presumably these are mostly people who would need housing benefit to live somewhere "proper" so cant see how rounding them all up can possibly be a net gain to the council.

They occupants would have to be working to pay the rents which are not cheap. I doubt you could put in a housing benefit claim, but who knows. Illegal immigrants working, but where?

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They occupants would have to be working to pay the rents which are not cheap. I doubt you could put in a housing benefit claim, but who knows. Illegal immigrants working, but where?

The eateries and garment factories of the Slough area are a likely place to start looking for working illegals.

I well understand why people take the risks and come to places illegally, I'm sure I'd do the same if the situation was reversed. But the tacit acceptance and approval of this over many years can't go on. Slough have famously made a big deal of their apparent population problem while seemingly doing precisely nothing about it.

As have other parts, e.g. Southall:

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The left have a lot to answer for here, the product of their 'scream racist' tactics created a politically untouchable issue for the best part of a decade, leaving us with slum living in the UK, just hidden behind a leafy suburban veneer. The conditions that these people are likely working under, although perhaps better than they might expect back home, at least in terms of stability of buildings, is probably not very good. We ought not to condone it by allowing it to continue.

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The eateries and garment factories of the Slough area are a likely place to start looking for working illegals.

I well understand why people take the risks and come to places illegally, I'm sure I'd do the same if the situation was reversed. But the tacit acceptance and approval of this over many years can't go on. Slough have famously made a big deal of their apparent population problem while seemingly doing precisely nothing about it.

As have other parts, e.g. Southall:

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The left have a lot to answer for here, the product of their 'scream racist' tactics created a politically untouchable issue for the best part of a decade, leaving us with slum living in the UK, just hidden behind a leafy suburban veneer. The conditions that these people are likely working under, although perhaps better than they might expect back home, at least in terms of stability of buildings, is probably not very good. We ought not to condone it by allowing it to continue.

As ever, get the incentives right and you stop bad behaviour. In this case, every time an illegal shed is found by a non local government investigation/journalist, the council chief exec and directors get their pension fund docked by 100 pounds each.

You would not have a single illegal dwelling within 12 months.

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The cynic in me says that the main issue the council has is purely that they are losing potential revenue. If they stamped out the practice, then they'd still have no revenue and probably a much bigger housing problem.

Hence they will just legalise and tax the garages/sheds.

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http://www-cdr.stanford.edu/intuition/Slough.html

Slough

by John Betjeman (1906 - 1984)

John Betjeman published his poem about Slough in 1937 in the collected works Continual Dew. Slough was becoming increasingly industrial and some housing conditions were very cramped. In willing the destruction of Slough, Betjeman urges the bombs to pick out the vulgar profiteers but to spare the bald young clerks. He really was very fond of his fellow human beings. Slough is much improved nowadays and he might be pleasantly surprised by a stroll there - surely some mistake!

Slough

Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough!

It isn't fit for humans now,

There isn't grass to graze a cow.

Swarm over, Death!

Come, bombs and blow to smithereens

Those air -conditioned, bright canteens,

Tinned fruit, tinned meat, tinned milk, tinned beans,

Tinned minds, tinned breath.

Mess up the mess they call a town-

A house for ninety-seven down

And once a week a half a crown

For twenty years.

And get that man with double chin

Who'll always cheat and always win,

Who washes his repulsive skin

In women's tears:

And smash his desk of polished oak

And smash his hands so used to stroke

And stop his boring dirty joke

And make him yell.

But spare the bald young clerks who add

The profits of the stinking cad;

It's not their fault that they are mad,

They've tasted Hell.

It's not their fault they do not know

The birdsong from the radio,

It's not their fault they often go

To Maidenhead

And talk of sport and makes of cars

In various bogus-Tudor bars

And daren't look up and see the stars

But belch instead.

In labour-saving homes, with care

Their wives frizz out peroxide hair

And dry it in synthetic air

And paint their nails.

Come, friendly bombs and fall on Slough

To get it ready for the plough.

The cabbages are coming now;

The earth exhales.

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http://theorwellprize.co.uk/george-orwell/by-orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-lion-and-the-unicorn-socialism-and-the-english-genius/

The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius

Part I: England Your England

As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me...

The place to look for the germs of the future England is in the light-industry areas and along the arterial roads. In Slough, Dagenham, Barnet, Letchworth, Hayes – everywhere, indeed, on the outskirts of great towns – the old pattern is gradually changing into something new. In those vast new wildernesses of glass and brick the sharp distinctions of the older kind of town, with its slums and mansions, or of the country, with its manor-houses and squalid cottages, no longer exist. There are wide gradations of income, but it is the same kind of life that is being lived at different levels, in labour-saving flats or council houses, along the concrete roads and in the naked democracy of the swimming-pools. It is a rather restless, cultureless life, centring round tinned food, Picture Post, the radio and the internal combustion engine. It is a civilization in which children grow up with an intimate knowledge of magnetoes and in complete ignorance of the Bible. To that civilization belong the people who are most at home in and most definitely of the modern world, the technicians and the higher-paid skilled workers, the airmen and their mechanics, the radio experts, film producers, popular journalists and industrial chemists. They are the indeterminate stratum at which the older class distinctions are beginning to break down.

George Orwell - The Lion and the Unicorn.

----------------------

Contrast George Orwell's hope for the future with today:

http://www.proceduresonline.com/slough/childcare/user_controlled_lcms_area/uploaded_files/Slough-story%5B1%5D.pdf

The Slough Story

Updated January 2013

At the time of the 2001 Census, the borough area was the most ethnically diverse local authority area outside of London in the United Kingdom, with the highest proportion of religious adherents in England...

Slough has the 11th highest incidence of overcrowded households of all local authorities in England. Slough is also ranked 2nd in England for household size...

It should also be noted that Slough continues to be one of the most popular destinations in the country for migrant workers, most recently from Eastern Europe. Slough had the ninth fastest growing population in the country at the 2001 Census. The latest Census data shows a 16.3% increase in population size since 2001. This is one of the largest increases seen across England...

rents are on average £396 per month for a room...

the “Slough Shed” phenomenon...the council has inspected in excess of 2,500 of such structures and the most appropriate enforcement action has been taken for those which are found to be occupied. These structures are concentrated in the Baylis and Stoke, Farnham, Chalvey and Central Wards...

2011 Census figures reveal that Slough, at 34.5%, has the lowest percentage of residents defining themselves as “White British” outside of London...

61% of residents were born in the United Kingdom. Just under 10% of residents were born in the EU, with 7% of these being born in the EU Accession States (6% of Slough residents were born in Poland). 28.7% of Slough residents were born outside of the UK and the EU, (8% in Pakistan and 8.2% in India). 20% of the population have been resident in the UK for less than 10 years...

According to 2011 Census data 34.5% of residents in Slough are of White ‘British’ ethnicity. The Pakistani and Indian communities continue to be the two largest

BME blocks in the town with 17.7% of residents being Pakistani, the second highest proportion for this ethnic group across England and Wales and 15.6% of residents being Indian. Only 56.2% of households have all household members of the same ethnic group...

There are more than 7,7 65 adults over the age of 16 with diabetes in Slough, giving a prevalence figure of 7.5% which is significantly above both the regional (South Central Strategic Health Authority) and national averages of 4.9% and 5.50% respectively...

TB is a bigger issue for Slough than anywhere else in the South East Region...

In 2011 Slough had an HIV rate of 3.4 per 1000 population which is one of the highest HIV rates in the country...

There are currently 6,189 people with 2 or more psychotic disorders between the ages of 18 and 64 in Slough...

Slough has the highest level of Problematic Drug Users amongst people aged 15-64 years in the South East of England with an estimated opiate or crack users of

1,193. Associated with this are high levels of crime, in particular burglary and theft...

I'm sure George would be delighted with how its all turned out!

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They occupants would have to be working to pay the rents which are not cheap. I doubt you could put in a housing benefit claim, but who knows. Illegal immigrants working, but where?

I think your misunderstanding me. If someone gets booted out of their shed then they would then have to rent a conventional residence which would mean they would probably claim HB, hence the councils HB bill would get larger easily offsetting any council tax that person paid.

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I think your misunderstanding me. If someone gets booted out of their shed then they would then have to rent a conventional residence which would mean they would probably claim HB, hence the councils HB bill would get larger easily offsetting any council tax that person paid.

A friend has their house for sale (admittedly its in the East Midlands), an Indian bloke came round with his father to look at the house, mentioning that they were thinking of converting the garage.

He then came back with his brother in law (who didn't appear to be able to speak English) for another viewing.

A few days later the Estate Agent was in contact saying this bloke wasn't interested as "the garden wasn't suitable"! Well its an average size garden for a detached house that size! I told my friend that this bloke was after a property where he could build in the garden to house his cousins from India.

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I think your misunderstanding me. If someone gets booted out of their shed then they would then have to rent a conventional residence which would mean they would probably claim HB, hence the councils HB bill would get larger easily offsetting any council tax that person paid.

Except that the council doesn't pay the HB bill, central government does. Councils just administer HB.

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I think your misunderstanding me. If someone gets booted out of their shed then they would then have to rent a conventional residence which would mean they would probably claim HB, hence the councils HB bill would get larger easily offsetting any council tax that person paid.

How could they claim HB? They are illegals and in most cases beyond the benefits system.

It is why they live like this in the first place.

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They occupants would have to be working to pay the rents which are not cheap. I doubt you could put in a housing benefit claim, but who knows. Illegal immigrants working, but where?

Where do illegal immigrants work? This may answer the question in part

"The businesses that have received the most penalties include restaurants, take-aways, car washes, factories, food producers and small shops. More than 150 supermarkets were also fined for having illegal workers."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23535938

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