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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tory-proposals-to-allow-shoppers-to-park-on-doubleyellow-lines-for-15-minute-grace-period-are-met-with-scepticism-by-liberal-democrats-8735963.html

Shoppers could be allowed to park on double-yellow lines for up to 15 minutes without being fined as part of a Conservative bid to boost high street trade.

The proposals, which come from Communities Secretary Eric Pickles, would mean parking attendants would not issue fines during a "grace period" that would allow motorists to pop into local shops without being hit by hefty penalties.

The proposals come from reviews into high street trading by shopping guru Mary Portas who reported back to Government in 2011 on the state of the British high street.

Surely the point of double yellows is to stop congestion and keep the traffic flowing, what should be proposed is 15 minutes of free parking at pay and display?

This sounds very desperate and to give the impression we are doing something!

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I thought that the broken yellow line catered for this sort of thing.

Double yellows are mostly concerned with easing congestion.

Still, I believe that mad councils have put down too many yellow lines.

Perhaps we should have a yellow line tax to deter over zealous council officials?

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I thought that the broken yellow line catered for this sort of thing.

Double yellows are mostly concerned with easing congestion.

Still, I believe that mad councils have put down too many yellow lines.

Perhaps we should have a yellow line tax to deter over zealous council officials?

The only way to get me to spend some money on anything that isn't deflating, is to let interest rates rise

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Might just as well remove all parking restriction, offer free parking and have a free for all.

It will soon jam up soon enough, with complains that "the Council must do something" to stop the mayhem.

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Of course, what this means is that in high-demand areas, one person will park for 15 minutes, pull off and be immediately replaced by someone else.

Which in turn means that the double yellow lines might as well not exist.

I really think that the Coalition should employ a 10-year-old to check their policies for being completely stupid before announcing them, it would save a lot of embarrassment.

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It's no way to run a country.

It's an admission that they've gone overboard painting yellow no parking lines all over the place - but they'll give it a trial for a few weeks and then they'll be putting in triple yellow lines "to ease congestion and to boost the economy".

Edited by billybong

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Which in turn means that the double yellow lines might as well not exist.

Disabled can already park on them.

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Amusing that Pickles imagines it's possible to park, exit car, proceed to shop, select purchase, proceed to till, Q at till, pay for purchase, exit shop, return to car within 15 minutes.

Even more amusing that he wants all parking attendants to now log every car on a yellow line and check on them again within 15 minutes.

Insane micro managing and more red tape.

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Amusing that Pickles imagines it's possible to park, exit car, proceed to shop, select purchase, proceed to till, Q at till, pay for purchase, exit shop, return to car within 15 minutes.

Even more amusing that he wants all parking attendants to now log every car on a yellow line and check on them again within 15 minutes.

Insane micro managing and more red tape.

Why does one need to park? Why can't your driver go round the block a couple of times until one is ready to picked up?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/05/george-osborne-disabled-parking-space

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Why does one need to park? Why can't your driver go round the block a couple of times until one is ready to picked up?

http://www.guardian....d-parking-space

I'd love to see Herr Pickles doing this 15 minutes jeux sans frontier parking challenge, with or without driver.

How it would save the high street (if it needs saving, which is debateable) is beyond my comprehension.

What can you buy in under 15 mins? Copy of Loaded and a packet of fags?

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Amusing that Pickles imagines it's possible to park, exit car, proceed to shop, select purchase, proceed to till, Q at till, pay for purchase, exit shop, return to car within 15 minutes.

Even more amusing that he wants all parking attendants to now log every car on a yellow line and check on them again within 15 minutes.

Insane micro managing and more red tape.

Don't worry, soon there will be a nice chip in your car that can track where you are at all times and how long you are there for.

Paperien Bank details, bitte.

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I'd love to see Herr Pickles doing this 15 minutes jeux sans frontier parking challenge, with or without driver.

How it would save the high street (if it needs saving, which is debateable) is beyond my comprehension.

What can you buy in under 15 mins? Copy of Loaded and a packet of fags?

15 mminutes is that nice length of time that people find hard to keep track of. Half an hour you'd check your watch for, 5 minutes is taking the piss.

!5 minutes is the perfect quibble length of time, where people will argue the time when cornered and not the principle of some twit demanding money off them at gunpoint.

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Sadly, wardens have no common sense, so you transgress, you get a ticket...

Better to employ more wardens, do away with the lines and have them use some common sense to ticket those causing an obstruction.

But then a "good" warden cant be measured against targets, budgets and revenue generation...cant have a smooth operating town with no revenue generation....

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Transport Minister Norman Baker says "free" double yellow parking is unworkable and undermines point of yellow lines.

From Twitter.

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Below are the guidelines for a typical council

Yellow lines

We control where single and double yellow lines are placed.

Requesting yellow lines

If parking is causing a safety problem in your street or neighbourhood, see our applying for waiting restrictions guidelines for more information.

About yellow lines

Yellow lines control where and when people can park. They are very important for:

increasing road safety for drivers and pedestrians - in some places, parked cars can reduce visibility to such an extent that the road becomes unsafe for road users and pedestrians. This is particularly the case near junctions and crossings reducing congestion - parked cars mean narrower roads. And in some places, this would cause traffic jams and delays - especially during peak traffic hours.

A single yellow line means that parking is allowed, but that it is restricted. Normally, parking is allowed between certain times.

The details of the restriction will be shown on signs (plates) along that stretch of road.

A double yellow line means that parking is not allowed at any time.

All that stuff is written into laws and bye laws etc and to change it would cost the UK a fortune in amendments and cross referencing to amendments and so on. Then likely there would have to be surveys all over the country and signs everywhere to explain the zones where 15 minutes would be allowed as in some places it would be dangerous to park at all and open up all sorts of legal consequences if there were accidents etc.

Mind you it sounds like a real boon for employing extra jobsworths and likely that's mainly what it would be about rather than helping shops and shoppers. If they really wanted to help them they would be reducing parking fees and doing away with them altogether but they won't want to do that will they as they have their own wages and pensions etc to maintain subsidized by the parking charges.

Edited by billybong

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Not read thread.

Double yellows are generally there for a good reason.

Single yellows are generally there to raise cash.

So gubmint ignores single yellows and lets people park on doubles.

Nailed on jams and chaos.

OK.

They're either being clever or stupid. I cant work out which.

Who is operating the controls in this country?

Clearly people who don't drive about doing their own ******ing shopping.

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Aberystwyth had no parking enforcement for a year after it was taken out of the police's hands. The local Chamber of Commerce was soon howling for the council to employ enforcement bods. Cars were just parked any old where, the traffic was blocked as often as not, people started avoiding the town.

Try driving along a main route into Cardiff past the bingo hall when the old and idle are being picked up by rellies and taxis, parked along 200-400 yards of double yellows. Takes forever.

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In my town the centre is bus only. I suppose people could park up by any shops in the one way system. 15 mins would probably create big jams removing a lane. If its a popular shop then its a replacement car every 15 mins? Wilkos ?

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Not read thread.

Double yellows are generally there for a good reason.

Single yellows are generally there to raise cash.

So gubmint ignores single yellows and lets people park on doubles.

Nailed on jams and chaos.

OK.

They're either being clever or stupid. I cant work out which.

Who is operating the controls in this country?

Clearly people who don't drive about doing their own ******ing shopping.

Clever just left the building.

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Not read thread.

Double yellows are generally there for a good reason.

Single yellows are generally there to raise cash.

So gubmint ignores single yellows and lets people park on doubles.

Nailed on jams and chaos.

OK.

They're either being clever or stupid. I cant work out which.

Who is operating the controls in this country?

Clearly people who don't drive about doing their own ******ing shopping.

Lynton Crosby.

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If they're double yellow lines parking on them at all, no matter how long, is causing an unacceptable or dangerous obstruction. If it isn't then they shouldn't be double yellow lines. By all means encourage a review of unnecessary, counter-productive line painting but don't misunderstand and undermine the purpose of them.

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