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The Socialists had thought the rising star of Marine Le Pen would work to their advantage, splitting the Right. Now they discern a deadly threat.

Nothing to do with their all out totalitarian initiative of threatening to imprison le Pen for daring to compare the Islamic occupation of France to the Nazi Occupation, then.

No, any sane person would obviously agree with prison for merely saying things. :blink:

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There's a longer and more technically detailed article on this from Ambrose Evans Pritchard yesterday http://www.telegraph...stroy-euro.html

So France, which still has probably the highest proportion of fruitcake lefties outside North Korea, is likely to lead the charge to destroy the Euro and the EU itself from the extreme right flank.

Just think how much more likely it would be in places where even the centre left has been emasculated and the most extreme option remaining is the anti-immigrant, yellow trousers wearing, smoking friendly mob. If only we'd actually joined the Euro it could have been bust asunder by now and things could get back to normal.

Mark my words, when it all goes pop there will be a wonderful opportunity to pick up the pieces, erase the Common Agricultural Policy, give the French a final kick in the plums and reshape Europe. Pity that by the time it happens we'll be back to island England, having played the short game, lost the long game as usual. But at least the fish will be ours once again.

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There's a longer and more technically detailed article on this from Ambrose Evans Pritchard yesterday http://www.telegraph...stroy-euro.html

So France, which still has probably the highest proportion of fruitcake lefties outside North Korea, is likely to lead the charge to destroy the Euro and the EU itself from the extreme right flank.

Just think how much more likely it would be in places where even the centre left has been emasculated and the most extreme option remaining is the anti-immigrant, yellow trousers wearing, smoking friendly mob. If only we'd actually joined the Euro it could have been bust asunder by now and things could get back to normal.

Mark my words, when it all goes pop there will be a wonderful opportunity to pick up the pieces, erase the Common Agricultural Policy, give the French a final kick in the plums and reshape Europe. Pity that by the time it happens we'll be back to island England, having played the short game, lost the long game as usual. But at least the fish will be ours once again.

I think europe is more extreme on both sides. The UK is always very conservative on being 'different' or 'radical'. Which on one level is good, but on another means we're stuck with LibLabCon for all eternity, promoting property obsessed ponzi-nomics and near zero social mobility.

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I think europe is more extreme on both sides. The UK is always very conservative on being 'different' or 'radical'. Which on one level is good, but on another means we're stuck with LibLabCon for all eternity, promoting property obsessed ponzi-nomics and near zero social mobility.

seems to me that people even in france are now sick of being forcefed jacobite propaganda.

the french do have a history of dealing with plutocrats who deem themselves "a cut above".......that phrase being taken rather literally when it comes to the remedy.

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I'm not sure how this result will translate elsewhere. The old socialist MP, Jerome Cahuzac (and minister in charge of the fight against tax evasion) had resigned very reluctantly as he was found to have a hidden Swiss and Singapore bank account where he was stashing money paid to him by drugs companies' in the days when he worked as an adviser for the health minister. Cahuzac still doesn't appear see what he had done wrong. He's still getting his minister's pension.

Costes, the UMP victor beat the FN candidate largely due to strong support in the sector of the seat where his is a Regional Councillor and in Flumel where he is mayor. 3 jobs will be a nice little earner for him - he'll probably be clearing 15K/ month ex-bribes. Plus pensions for life.

Of note, the Socialists called for a "blocage republican", that is socialists should vote for the UMP candidate (faute de mieux). This doesn't appear to have happened. Around 62% of first round socialist voters stayed at home. 23% voted UMP, 15% for the FN. If we assume a 2017 presidential between Le Pen / Juppe or Le Pen / Fillon then that has to give Le Pen hope. The danger of the French system is the role of president is very strong, so even without a majority in parliament she could probably force some legislation through although quitting the Euro would probably be impossible without a parliamentary majority which she is unlikely to achieve.

Around 25% of voters who hadn't voted in the first round voted in the second with their vote evenly split.

Meanwhile back on Planet Hollande, our dear president promised he wasn't going to be pushed around by Europe and the hated Merkel and Barroso. He marched off to the summit last week and came back having accepted pretty much all that Europe has told him to do. He tried to spin it that "no civil servants would be fired" - what he didn't mention is that thousands of vacancies will be left unfilled in the next couple of years.

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Pity that by the time it happens we'll be back to island England, having played the short game, lost the long game as usual. But at least the fish will be ours once again.

I thought we'd eaten them all already?

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""Europe is just a great bluff. One side there is the immense power of sovereign peoples, and on the other side are a few technocrats," she said."

The emperor has no clothes. Dynamite. Cometh the hour, cometh the maid?

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Mark my words, when it all goes pop there will be a wonderful opportunity to pick up the pieces, erase the Common Agricultural Policy, give the French a final kick in the plums and reshape Europe. Pity that by the time it happens we'll be back to island England, having played the short game, lost the long game as usual. But at least the fish will be ours once again.

If we stayed in the EU, those in power in the UK would fight to protect the CAP. It's a nice proletarian-funded benefit for the land-owning politicians.

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Anyway Le Pen's parliamentary immunity has just been rescinded so Hollande can have her banged up with all his other political prisoners.

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If we stayed in the EU, those in power in the UK would fight to protect the CAP. It's a nice proletarian-funded benefit for the land-owning politicians.

Oddly the farming community, despite all the EU handouts, are one of the most pro-UKIP groups out there. Here in Huntingdonshire the locals cant get enough of them. Im pretty sure something would replace it, just as the yanks have their farm subsidies too.

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Anyway Le Pen's parliamentary immunity has just been rescinded so Hollande can have her banged up with all his other political prisoners.

MEPs vote to have Marine Le Pen prosecuted for hate speech

One of the perks of being an MEP is that you have immunity from prosecution – immunity that can be lifted only by a plenary vote.

In what circumstances should it be lifted? In theory, the test is whether you were targeted on political grounds. If you're being pursued as a result of expressing an opinion, your immunity should be upheld; if you're wanted for a common offence – shoplifting, say, or speeding – it shouldn't.

That, as I say, is the theory. In practice, a completely different test is applied. If you're a goody-goody Europhile, your immunity will be upheld regardless of the accusation against you. If you're a Eurosceptic, forget it..........

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I can't believe they would be so stupid as to lock her up for the most tame of speeches. And just after she receives the biggest vote she has ever received. What the hell are they thinking?

Mind you most revolutionaries have been to prison at some point.

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Locking her up is a dumb move.

She will garner so much more support it will scare the crap out of the rest.

It's very French though.

Their establishment do stupid things without regard to the consequences.

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Arent the french prisons chock full of muslim brotherhood types (bit like the aryan brotherhood in the yank prisons)

Wonder if she'll come out alive? that wouldnt look good.

Muslims are 20% of the French population (that's what happens if you open your borders) and 70% of the French prison population.

Maybe it's those nasty gendarmes?

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Muslims are 20% of the French population (that's what happens if you open your borders) and 70% of the French prison population.

Maybe it's those nasty gendarmes?

That is high. I would expect it to be higher than the general population as the muslim demographic is probably younger than average and thus more in the typical criminal age group, but thats still shockingly high.

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That is high. I would expect it to be higher than the general population as the muslim demographic is probably younger than average and thus more in the typical criminal age group, but thats still shockingly high.

The French police are notorious for their un-PC attitude towards dealing with ethnic minorities; there's an old expression 'délit de sale gueule' - 'guilty of having a face that doesn't fit in' that describes them pretty well. So I'm not surprised if some ethnic minorities are over-represented in the prison population.

Whether this is the only explanation is a minefield that I will leave someone else to explore.

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