interestrateripoff Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/06/26/uk-britain-boe-fpc-idUKBRE95P0FU20130626 The Bank of England warned banks and borrowers on Wednesday they may be vulnerable if there is an abrupt rise in global interest rates which could require lenders to bolster their capital cushions again.Global bond yields have jumped since U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said last week that the U.S. central bank may start to scale back bond purchases later this year. "The violence of the adjustment over the past fortnight underlined the extent of the search for yield over the past months and the need for the authorities ... to pin down whether or not there are any vulnerable links in the financial system that could jeopardise stability," BoE Deputy Governor Paul Tucker told reporters. Lots of threats about rates over the past week. Clearly this is a coordinated PR campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/06/26/uk-britain-boe-fpc-idUKBRE95P0FU20130626 Lots of threats about rates over the past week. Clearly this is a coordinated PR campaign. Is it a "buy now before rates go up " or is it a "you have been warned, don't blame us" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoo Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 http://uk.reuters.co...E95P0FU20130626 Lots of threats about rates over the past week. Clearly this is a coordinated PR campaign. Exactly. And when they start to go up - shortly - there's going be carnage on the streets. But it no good shouting and screaming - you had been warned, and should have paid down your debts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Is it a "buy now before rates go up " or is it a "you have been warned, don't blame us" That one? The Japan experiment and all the other nonsense from CB`s is not keeping rates down any more, so they are just saying "Be ready"? Hopefully a few million people will default on credit cards etc, and a few more banks will be taken out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reck B Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'm ready for rate rises. I don't have any savings in long term products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherProle Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Rate rises are heeeeere...I'm just : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butthead Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Is it a "buy now before rates go up " or is it a "you have been warned, don't blame us" It's a "rate rises will be bad so let's emphasise the pain, make it bigger and more immediate than it really is, and then give Carney a mandate to save us all by printing as much as he wants" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'm ready for rate rises. I don't have any savings in long term products. Can't see it,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fully Detached Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 It's a "rate rises will be bad so let's emphasise the pain, make it bigger and more immediate than it really is, and then give Carney a mandate to save us all by printing as much as he wants" That's exactly how I see it. The current status of Abenomics complicates tings somewhat, but I honestly think all this grief that's going on at the moment is a way of saying "Look, we talked about ending QE and the world went into a tailspin, so clearly we can't stop it yet. In fact we'd better do it a little more enthusiastically just to be doubly sure". However, I'm usually wrong about everything, and in this case I'll be very happy to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inflating Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 It's a "rate rises will be bad so let's emphasise the pain, make it bigger and more immediate than it really is, and then give Carney a mandate to save us all by printing as much as he wants" Shoot, that sounds childish enough to be their plan. That's taken the wind out of my sails or piszed on my bonfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 That's exactly how I see it. The current status of Abenomics complicates tings somewhat, but I honestly think all this grief that's going on at the moment is a way of saying "Look, we talked about ending QE and the world went into a tailspin, so clearly we can't stop it yet. In fact we'd better do it a little more enthusiastically just to be doubly sure". However, I'm usually wrong about everything, and in this case I'll be very happy to be. That's why Fisher's (and Greenspan's) comments were interesting as they talked about not submitting to the negative market reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 All rubber stamped in Watford a few weeks back? I see US GDP figures just announced are "disappointing". As Ed Wood would say.... CUT! PRINT! What they do, not what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnails Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 One thing is for sure if banks want to get money from general public that are going to have to offer much better rate that 1%. If I had small amount of money spare . I don't see much point of putting it in savings account. If I had large amount spare I would have brought a house by now, which leaves me with 3% isa I still have till October. please rates by then markie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fully Detached Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 That's why Fisher's (and Greenspan's) comments were interesting as they talked about not submitting to the negative market reaction. It all fits though. The way I see it, Fisher and Voldemort's comments roughly translate as "We really really really really really aren't going to be pushed around by the markets. Not at all. Nosiree, not never. ****** me! Look how bad the markets are! Priiiiint!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbug9999 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Exactly. And when they start to go up - shortly - there's going be carnage on the streets. But it no good shouting and screaming - you had been warned, and should have paid down your debts. Or they are just trying to scare people off trackers onto fixed rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 They will stare in to the abyss. Pull back from the abyss. Return to their office, and print like hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Of Highbridge Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 They (the central bankers and governments) have created a bigger problem that the housing bubble that they created in the first place Basically when this lot goes down, a new system will emerge. A 2% interest rate rise will bankrupt the banks - well lets hope inflation doesn't get worse or it will be a choice between hyperinflation or bankruptcy. Those that hold the assets will choose hyperinflation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissy_fit Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The fact is, they're stuck. Deflate and the economy is toast for 3-4 years while it resets, massive unemployment, soup kitchens, roving violent criminal gangs, civil disturbance, the whole 9 yards. Inflate and eventually the economy will be toast as well, but the charade can be kept going for longer. You're a politician, which are you going to choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inflating Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The fact is, they're stuck. Deflate and the economy is toast for 3-4 years while it resets, massive unemployment, soup kitchens, roving violent criminal gangs, civil disturbance, the whole 9 yards. Inflate and eventually the economy will be toast as well, but the charade can be kept going for longer. You're a politician, which are you going to choose? Is there a critical difference in the time-scale between the inflate and deflate options? I'm wondering if it's as different as it was once supposed it would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quicken Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 "The violence of the adjustment over the past fortnight underlined the extent of the search for yield over the past months and the need for the authorities ... to pin down whether or not there are any vulnerable links in the financial system that could jeopardise stability," BoE Deputy Governor Paul Tucker told reporters. Nothing a few stress tests can't sort out, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieAndy Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'm currently looking at remortgaging to make use of the current Government support and can't decide between a BOE tracker or a 10 year fix, 2.69% and 3.89% respectively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Monk Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'm currently looking at remortgaging to make use of the current Government support and can't decide between a BOE tracker or a 10 year fix, 2.69% and 3.89% respectively In your position I'd go for the ten year fix at 3.89% and I'd do it now because I doubt that offer will still be around next week. There's no doubt about it, the way is being prepared for interest rate rises, TPTB seem to have finally understood that ZIRP hasn't worked and isn't going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Danny Blanchflower @D_Blanchflower 5mMervyn had big farewell drinks party for lots of mpc members i wasn't welcome just as I wasn't when I joined wonder if @adamposen was or GB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inflating Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Mervyn had big farewell drinks party for lots of mpc members i wasn't welcome just as I wasn't when I joined wonder if @adamposen was or GB? Are you sure you weren't welcome? I can't imagine why not, they did as you asked and then some, didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderpup Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The Bank of England warned banks and borrowers on Wednesday they may be vulnerable if there is an abrupt rise in global interest rates which could require lenders to bolster their capital cushions again.Global bond yields have jumped since U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said last week that the U.S. central bank may start to scale back bond purchases later this year. "The violence of the adjustment over the past fortnight underlined the extent of the search for yield over the past months and the need for the authorities ... to pin down whether or not there are any vulnerable links in the financial system that could jeopardise stability," BoE Deputy Governor Paul Tucker told reporters. So they need to pin down those capital cushions? It all sounds rather cosy when you put it that way- my old mum used a pincushion, back in the days when people knew how to make and mend their own clothes- maybe those skills will come back into fashion soon. We are all kind of assuming that 'they' can choose to control rates at any time- but the tone of here suggests that maybe 'they' are losing control- maybe China is the catalyst here- their need to kill their own bubbles is possibly going to kill ours too? Could turmoil in Chinese financial markets be the cause of the rise in interest rates on U.S. Treasuries?Danske Bank's chief emerging-markets analyst, Lars Christensen, explained the theory to me earlier today. Last week, China's central bank deliberately withdrew liquidity and pushed up the short-term interest rates banks pay to borrow from each other, in an effort to shove the Chinese banking system toward less risk-taking. That squeeze, Christensen explained, caused Chinese banks to dump Treasuries onto the market. (China's central bank is famous for being the largest foreign holder of Treasuries, but its four largest banks appear to have big stakes, too, according to annual balance-sheet statements.) The influx of sellers then sent Treasury yields up. The U.S. 10-year note now yields 2.6 percent, up 45 basis points since June 1. It's hard to disentangle the China crunch from changes in U.S. monetary policy, which is also moving towards tighter money. Christensen explains why China might be part of the story: First, the Federal Reserve didn't tell investors anything new last week. Second, interest rates have continued to rise well after the Fed's policy announcement last week. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-25/is-china-to-blame-for-rising-u-s-interest-rates-.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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