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Hi,

We are newcomers to the area so we know very little about where to buy.

Here is our story (I'll try to keep it as short as possible). We moved across from Leeds, as my husband had been commuting for a few years to Stockport and we needed to put an end to that horrible drive.

We sold our house, in Leeds (at a minisucle profit which didnt cover the improvements we made to the house to get it sold - which it did, very quickly). We moved to Sale into a rented property with the idea that this would put us in a better position to buy. Weve been looking for months, and decided that we like the Hale, Altrincham, Hale Barns areas - Timperley if we cannot get into the others. We also like space, so the former is likely off the list.

Before anyone says 'stay renting' we cannot stay renting where we are, as our toddler is near school age so we need to move into a good catchment area. We would like a house that we can settle in - but possibly will also accue /add some value/not be hard to shift if we need to move again in a few years.

We started by keeping an eye on a few properties with the idea that we could put an offer in if they lagged a bit - and lost out on about 7 properties this way so far! The last few we didnt even get the viewing.

Here was the one we really liked, but turns out that it probably went for more than we could afford. We would never have been able to offer full or over the asking.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41107607.html

We have seen a few more. Obviously we are now at the compromise stage, our wishlist has been significantly whittled down from '4 Bed Det with Large Gardens, Close to Outstanding School & Amenities' to '3 bed semi, needs full refurb & extension' Reasonable Gardens, Close to Outstanding School & Amenities'

Would love to have some outside opinions/pros cons on the following:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-27178950.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41070863.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42145808.html

The last of these needs fully gutting and starting again. its in a real state.

But my question is, even if we have got a chance to move in on any of these, which one of these is the best buy?

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Hi,

We are newcomers to the area so we know very little about where to buy.

Here is our story (I'll try to keep it as short as possible). We moved across from Leeds, as my husband had been commuting for a few years to Stockport and we needed to put an end to that horrible drive.

We sold our house, in Leeds (at a minisucle profit which didnt cover the improvements we made to the house to get it sold - which it did, very quickly). We moved to Sale into a rented property with the idea that this would put us in a better position to buy. Weve been looking for months, and decided that we like the Hale, Altrincham, Hale Barns areas - Timperley if we cannot get into the others. We also like space, so the former is likely off the list.

Before anyone says 'stay renting' we cannot stay renting where we are, as our toddler is near school age so we need to move into a good catchment area. We would like a house that we can settle in - but possibly will also accue /add some value/not be hard to shift if we need to move again in a few years.

We started by keeping an eye on a few properties with the idea that we could put an offer in if they lagged a bit - and lost out on about 7 properties this way so far! The last few we didnt even get the viewing.

Here was the one we really liked, but turns out that it probably went for more than we could afford. We would never have been able to offer full or over the asking.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41107607.html

We have seen a few more. Obviously we are now at the compromise stage, our wishlist has been significantly whittled down from '4 Bed Det with Large Gardens, Close to Outstanding School & Amenities' to '3 bed semi, needs full refurb & extension' Reasonable Gardens, Close to Outstanding School & Amenities'

Would love to have some outside opinions/pros cons on the following:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-27178950.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41070863.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42145808.html

The last of these needs fully gutting and starting again. its in a real state.

But my question is, even if we have got a chance to move in on any of these, which one of these is the best buy?

Well, to be pedantic, this is still technically "Hale" not "Hale Barns." :) I'd assume you are looking at this area because of the Well Green Primary?

Quite a spread of prices you have there.

The Briony Avenue Semi looks very overpriced to me. I've seen detached places go for not much more. £275k would be tops as far as I was concerned.

The Wood Lane property would need to come in at least £50k cheaper, IMHO. Do not underestimate how much that renovation is going to cost once you start digging (I'd say £100k wouldn't be out of the question.) And the fact that you probably wouldn't be able to live in the place whilst the work was taking place...

Which leaves the Canterbury Road house. Very nice garden, but I can't say more as it doesn't show the inside of the house. Still, from the front door alone, I'd say it also looks like it needs some renovation. How much, hard to say. Probably best to go and take a look around it.

What about:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-38702989.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-39184775.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-38415379.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-26197203.html

?

Have you considered the Woodbourne (Brooklands) Primary School? The area west of Framingham Road is really nice. Semi's would be in the same price bracket as those you are looking at - although there aren't any up for sale at the moment. :(

(Edit: Typo.)

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Thank you Nomad for your considered response!

Yes, the price range spread is with consideration of whether the property is liveable now or needs renovating before moving in - hence the latter kind would need to be at the lower end of £250, wheras if its livable and large enough up to around £350.

Yes, we are primary school constrained and have looked at properties near Well Green, Oldfield Brow and Stamford Park so far. We currently live near the Woodlands area, renting, but not in catchment for Brooklands. I dont know, I think we would prefer to move Hale-wards? but will listen to any reasoned arguement against!

Completely agree re Briony! ha ha. No way would we be paying that, don't worry! Even preliminary research makes a mockery, and the EA showing us round was clearly embarrassed when I queried it. She told me that the vendor thinks that the garage/ side extension area is large enough to build a second property on...and elevated the price accordingly. Have you ever!!...

We will lose the Wood Lane, probably by the time I have typed this. It came on on Tuesday, I rang immediately and by the time I viewed on Saturday ( yesterday) it had had 5 viewings and an offer. (Not yet accepted). Not sure we are ready to move that quickly! . .. ...We had thought that

it could be done in two stages - wiring, heating, kitchen bathroom double glaze, paint carpets, move in, then later extend/upgrade.

Expecting a similar story at Canterbury, given that they havent even shown inside - gotta be scary. Theyre doing an open house soon, no prior viewings.so will keep you posted.

Going to have a drive around the Framingham Road area to get a feel...

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was clearly embarrassed when I queried it. She told me that the vendor thinks that the garage/ side extension area is large enough to build a second property on...and elevated the price accordingly. Have you ever!!...

Lol and interesting to know sellers in this market still have the upper-hand on the EAs looking for instructions, when it comes to trying to asking prices.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-26197203.html

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Completely agree re Briony! ha ha. No way would we be paying that, don't worry! Even preliminary research makes a mockery, and the EA showing us round was clearly embarrassed when I queried it. She told me that the vendor thinks that the garage/ side extension area is large enough to build a second property on...and elevated the price accordingly. Have you ever!!...

We will lose the Wood Lane, probably by the time I have typed this. It came on on Tuesday, I rang immediately and by the time I viewed on Saturday ( yesterday) it had had 5 viewings and an offer. (Not yet accepted). Not sure we are ready to move that quickly! . .. ...We had thought that

it could be done in two stages - wiring, heating, kitchen bathroom double glaze, paint carpets, move in, then later extend/upgrade.

Expecting a similar story at Canterbury, given that they havent even shown inside - gotta be scary. Theyre doing an open house soon, no prior viewings.so will keep you posted.

Yes, you get the impression that they win the business by just agreeing with the vendor rather than looking at the intrinsic worth, Ive been to a lot of viewings recently where if purchased any where near the asking, the property would be 'the most expensive of its kind on the street'. I thought that being a free buyer was supposed to be an advantage....but that fact seems to hold little sway round these parts. ...

That property link? This was one of the ones I had mentioned that had gone STC before I even got a viewing...

I guess this is your dilemma: that there are other people who are prepared to put in an offer quickly. It's to be expected this time of year especially, I suppose.

As regards pricing, I'd simply ignore what the vendor or the EA think; only sold prices tell the real story. I think you already have a 'gut feel' for current price levels, so beyond that it's just a guessing game amongst all concerned as to who is going to make an offer and how much; nothing to stop you pitching in with what you feel is realistic. Better to at least have an offer in rather than miss out on a house you really would have liked.

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I guess this is your dilemma: that there are other people who are prepared to put in an offer quickly. It's to be expected this time of year especially, I suppose.

As regards pricing, I'd simply ignore what the vendor or the EA think; only sold prices tell the real story. I think you already have a 'gut feel' for current price levels, so beyond that it's just a guessing game amongst all concerned as to who is going to make an offer and how much; nothing to stop you pitching in with what you feel is realistic. Better to at least have an offer in rather than miss out on a house you really would have liked.

Absolutely. Sold prices plus Google maps together give a great insight into what a realistic offer might be. Will also use the 'not in a chain' currency. You never know.

Good point about time of year - more buyers around can give the impression of a bubble. I guess winter means you might catch some more desperate sellers....could be worth hanging on a bit.

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I'm a little more concerned over secondary options. The one thing that may yet swing me across the north side of the golf course is Wellington School. What are the options for where you describe? Ambrose? Is Thomas Holford and Wellington too far away? Anywhere I've missed? Pretty sure I read in last year's intake documents that the furthest catchment for Wellington for those with no other claim than catchment area proximity was 1 mile. That doesn't cover much on the east let alone south Altrincham side.

My wife and I have pretty much struck off everything east of Delahays Road, even the cheap (ex-council?) stuff because we figured that if you're poor, then surely you need to live within walking distance of your amenities. I remember her face when we viewed a house on Lichfield Avenue. Ditto Stamford Brook on the other side of town. Too far from anywhere.

As for the rightmove behaviour, I've noticed it too. Didn't use dto happen. I can only suggest it is starting to happen as demand is far greater than supply. Sentiment is still high, seemingly never dropped. Even your thinking is a little irrational. I rent and have a child in a school you mention. Providing the local renting market gives a reasonable number of options, I'm not sure why its a problem in respect of schooling other than your tenant social pariah status among the other mums.

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I'm a little more concerned over secondary options. The one thing that may yet swing me across the north side of the golf course is Wellington School. What are the options for where you describe? Ambrose? Is Thomas Holford and Wellington too far away? Anywhere I've missed? Pretty sure I read in last year's intake documents that the furthest catchment for Wellington for those with no other claim than catchment area proximity was 1 mile. That doesn't cover much on the east let alone south Altrincham side.

My wife and I have pretty much struck off everything east of Delahays Road, even the cheap (ex-council?) stuff because we figured that if you're poor, then surely you need to live within walking distance of your amenities. I remember her face when we viewed a house on Lichfield Avenue. Ditto Stamford Brook on the other side of town. Too far from anywhere.

As for the rightmove behaviour, I've noticed it too. Didn't use dto happen. I can only suggest it is starting to happen as demand is far greater than supply. Sentiment is still high, seemingly never dropped. Even your thinking is a little irrational. I rent and have a child in a school you mention. Providing the local renting market gives a reasonable number of options, I'm not sure why its a problem in respect of schooling other than your tenant social pariah status among the other mums.

Ha ha. I can’t deny it. I’m find renting weird. Guess I’m hard wired for buying.

For starters, we moved in here, (deliberately smaller than we need to keep us from comfort) being told by LL that we could stay as long as we needed, only to find after a few months that ‘they might need us to move out again soon’. So you never feel secure. We have a lot of stuff, ( 2 x work from homes plus all the usual). It’s a lot to have to keep lugging round.

That said, it does make a lot of sense to rent, and hubby would be more than happy to just go rent in catchment, and spend longer getting to know area. I can see the argument – but am worried we’d lose our foothold! (yep, there goes the irrational side again).

But also – don’t you just love buying property, doing it up, adding value, making changes and upgrades? It’s kind of a hobby, with the end result a nice property/garden the way you’ve always wanted it?

Re schools, Primary wise, I believe that the Wood Lane would get one into Cloverlea or St Vincents – whereas all the others would be Well Green.

I was lead to believe that State secondary wise, Alty Girls/Boys was the way to go? I keep hearing about Wellington though, and little about the former, just on stats and league tables. So please, correct me if im wrong. I also was under the (possible delusion) That all the primaries Ive mentioned would give you a good shot at The Altrincham Grammars…

Point taken about the distance to amenities east of Delahays. Think my face may have been a similar to the wifes on that score…BUT once Hale Barns Square is redeveloped, that makes it a bit more doable. . .perhaps? And a good garden can make up for a lot of sins IMHO. . .

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Depends on your priorities:-

If it's primary schools and potential entry into Alty grammars etc then you might compromise on house/area for your money.

If it's house/area for your money and the priority is a much easier commute to Stockport, then depending on where in Stockport you should look seriously at Bramhall/Cheadle Hulme and stop f^nnying around in Hale/Timperley. Train from Cheadle Hulme (and I think B/hall) into Mcr is probably quicker than tram from Alty/timperley, but check that. Or perhaps if you prefer period property the 'Heatons'.

Alternatively, why don't you like Sale? Tons of stuff like you've posted for less and still decent schools (I believe), closer to M60 and town.

Hale Barns is great for the Synagogue, but it sounds like that's not your thing.

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I notice in post 1 your hubby works in Stockport

........RK is right - expand your options

look at Cheadle Hulme or even better Bramhall or Poynton, both of which are considered very good areas and have excellent schools.

Poynton is less than 20mins in rush hour and does have a railway station

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But also – don’t you just love buying property, doing it up, adding value, making changes and upgrades? It’s kind of a hobby, with the end result a nice property/garden the way you’ve always wanted it?

Let me stop you right there.

I was lead to believe that State secondary wise, Alty Girls/Boys was the way to go? I keep hearing about Wellington though, and little about the former, just on stats and league tables. So please, correct me if im wrong. I also was under the (possible delusion) That all the primaries Ive mentioned would give you a good shot at The Altrincham Grammars…

Well yes but I thought it a little presumptive with a pre-schooler to ignore other possible options.

And then you get little quirks like someone I know missing out on a place at the local primary pre-school group because they 'live too far away'. They only live 3 streets away. It is very competitive out there and that's just the parents. We're in at one school now, I'll just have to see where it leads us. If you've already moved from Leeds to here, is planning for the long term just moot?

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If it's primary schools and potential entry into Alty grammars etc then you might compromise on house/area for your money.

If it's house/area for your money and the priority is a much easier commute to Stockport, then depending on where in Stockport you should look seriously at Bramhall/Cheadle Hulme and stop f^nnying around in Hale/Timperley.

Raw nerve. Just spent quite a few months looking at Bramhall Cheadle, and finally decided on Hale area - you say excellent schools bramhall way. primary wise its Hursthead which just gets you into Cheadle High.

Poynton has Lostock Hall, (which sounds amazing) but as a place - friends moved there and said they wished they'd not. Altrincham far outclasses the other areas in terms of number of outstanding Schools - primary and secondary it seems.

Alternatively, why don't you like Sale? Tons of stuff like you've posted for less and still decent schools (I believe), closer to M60 and town.

Er...Town Centre, M56 cutting through everything?? OK, some good schools, but not too keen on the rest so far. Think I made the mistake of listening to an EA when we first arrived, something along the lines of 'desireability pecking order is Bowden, Hale/Barns/ Timperley, Altrincham then Sale. '...

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Raw nerve. Just spent quite a few months looking at Bramhall Cheadle, and finally decided on Hale area - you say excellent schools bramhall way. primary wise its Hursthead which just gets you into Cheadle High.

Poynton has Lostock Hall, (which sounds amazing) but as a place - friends moved there and said they wished they'd not. Altrincham far outclasses the other areas in terms of number of outstanding Schools - primary and secondary it seems.

Er...Town Centre, M56 cutting through everything?? OK, some good schools, but not too keen on the rest so far. Think I made the mistake of listening to an EA when we first arrived, something along the lines of 'desireability pecking order is Bowden, Hale/Barns/ Timperley, Altrincham then Sale. '...

Mine are out of the school system now so it may have changed, but used to be choice of Cheadle and/or Bramhall high schools, then Wilmslow or Stockport 6th forms. Alty schools - sure, hence my comment about priorities.

Pecking order of 'desireability' is in the eye of the beholder (or in this case mortgage holder/depth of pockets). Plenty of adverse posts on these threads relating to why people wouldn't want to live in Bowdon/Hale etc due to the preponderance of alleged ar5eholes who live there. Understand where they're coming from but not my experience particularly. No shortage of ar5eholes elsewhere if you care to look imo.

Anyway, I sense you've made up your mind. You'd like to live in Bowdon/Hale/Alty. Hale Barns doesn't have a station so I don't get it's appeal at all, Timperley is usually cheaper than the others but careful on location. Oldfield Brow is probably reasonable compromise but doesn't really match up with shortest commute to Stockport perhaps or maybe some bits of Bowdon Vale and access to M56 (but again, a bit of a hike to the train/tram).

Next up people usually start to look at places like Knutsford - train station, nice centre, mostly cheaper than Bowdon/Hale etc etc.......

Edit: The other point to note about schools is that the Alty Grammar's are selective and single sex. So your child may still not get in wherever you live and selection (by definition) skews results. Being single sex they're also likely to end up emotionally/socially crippled which may or not be an issue to consider.

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Edit: The other point to note about schools is that the Alty Grammar's are selective and single sex. So your child may still not get in wherever you live and selection (by definition) skews results. Being single sex they're also likely to end up emotionally/socially crippled which may or not be an issue to consider.

Pretty much.

What's Plan B for those who live on the south side and don't get selected?

Although I have found something of interest that needs investigating:

Applicants moving into the catchment area prior to the 15th October and who submit an on- time application

to their Home Authority including Altrincham Grammar School for Boys as a preference, may be considered

from their new address if:

a) Evidence and legal documentation to the effect they have purchased or exchanged contracts on a

property is produced and documentation relating to proof of disposal of the previous home.

B) For leasing agreements, a minimum of 24 months is required and legally supported documentation

produced also proof of disposal of the previous home.

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Raw nerve. Just spent quite a few months looking at Bramhall Cheadle, and finally decided on Hale area - you say excellent schools bramhall way. primary wise its Hursthead which just gets you into Cheadle High.

Hursthead is in Cheadle Hulme.

What's the big difference between Moss Hey in Bramhall, and the other primary schools in Bramhall, and Hursthead in Cheadle Hulme? (Dumb question?).

http://www.bramhallweb.co.uk/bramhall_education.htm

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Hursthead is in Cheadle Hulme.

What's the big difference between Moss Hey in Bramhall, and the other primary schools in Bramhall, and Hursthead in Cheadle Hulme? (Dumb question?).

http://www.bramhallweb.co.uk/bramhall_education.htm

No, not a dumb question at all.

Its just that we have little to go on, other than out of date ofstead reports, so playing safe and choosing the outstanding as opposed to merely good schools. So to answer, Hursthead comes out a lot higher on the national stats. Also have had a heads up from some teachers I know in the private sector, who send their children there.

Its personal. My (limited) experience of average and even good are that they are neither. We have a child who is very far ahead academically (I'm not so naieve as to think that this will always remain the case) but the last thing I want is to kill the learning enthusiasm by 'average' teaching. Not at this early age anyway. Very few schools admit to catering to kids who are bright, they mostly talk about helping the less able to catch up. I hope that doesn't make me sound too sharp elbowed!

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Thanks housecat. I wasn't interrogating you; I'm all for parents trying to make informed decisions with options for schools.

Hursthead must have acquired this reputation, of which you're not the first I've heard say of it, from some very good teachers. I've been in and around both schools and saw little difference between the facilities. However that was a long time ago.

One of my younger brothers went to Moss Hey, although that was many years ago, when the entire site was Moss Hey. The building at the lower end of the site is now a separate special-needs school. However he then went on to Stockport Grammar.

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One of my younger brothers went to Moss Hey, although that was many years ago, when the entire site was Moss Hey. The building at the lower end of the site is now a separate special-needs school. However he then went on to Stockport Grammar.

Its good to have an insight. Its these kind of things that could get me to say 'maybe I will add that to the list of schools to visit' so it all helps. Ditto good areas or streets to live on that we might have overlooked due to being over cautious. I'm even having another look at Sale properties - and Cheadle Hulme so you never know!

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I notice in post 1 your hubby works in Stockport

........RK is right - expand your options

look at Cheadle Hulme or even better Bramhall or Poynton, both of which are considered very good areas and have excellent schools.

Poynton is less than 20mins in rush hour and does have a railway station

OK OK I'm getting it!!

However, I must say that hubbys colleagues commutes from Bramhall/Poynton/Cheadle (driving) arent that much quicker than his from Sale - which is why we started looking here in the first place. There are some real bottlenecks to beware of round there....

More importantly, very little ever comes on the market over there - theres probably more choice over this way....and thats saying something!

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Well yes but I thought it a little presumptive with a pre-schooler to ignore other possible options.

And then you get little quirks like someone I know missing out on a place at the local primary pre-school group because they 'live too far away'. They only live 3 streets away. It is very competitive out there and that's just the parents. We're in at one school now, I'll just have to see where it leads us. If you've already moved from Leeds to here, is planning for the long term just moot?

Hm. Perhaps. It does seem to bea bit early to plan our enitre family life for the next 15 years?? . BUT if you dont plan it, it just happens anyway. We're going to live somewhere - so we might as well plan it - and try to improve the odds?

Just looking at our last move, no time for a long story, but we were there for 8 years - it wasnt where we particularly wanted to be, but thats life. Now add children in schools to the scenario, and you know you are gonna be pretty much planted for the duration, hence trying to find somewhere to grow into, and a multitude of other criteria. We can't (at this moment) see us moving regions again in a hurry, not for the forseeable.

Yes, I am completely aware of the competitiveness. And obvious lack of siblings already attending. Best, if you can, to be delighted with A, B & C.

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Pecking order of 'desireability' is in the eye of the beholder (or in this case mortgage holder/depth of pockets). Plenty of adverse posts on these threads relating to why people wouldn't want to live in Bowdon/Hale etc due to the preponderance of alleged ar5eholes who live there. Understand where they're coming from but not my experience particularly. No shortage of ar5eholes elsewhere if you care to look imo.

Don't think that would put me off. If I had paid off my mortgage, I too might swan about in a nice car...till then, its a beat up old thing for me. :D

Anyway, I sense you've made up your mind. You'd like to live in Bowdon/Hale/Alty. Hale Barns doesn't have a station so I don't get it's appeal at all, Timperley is usually cheaper than the others but careful on location. Oldfield Brow is probably reasonable compromise but doesn't really match up with shortest commute to Stockport perhaps or maybe some bits of Bowdon Vale and access to M56 (but again, a bit of a hike to the train/tram).

Not necessarily decided - you guys have given us some food for thought. You dont make it easy on here do you! wouldn't mind knowing a bit more about where to avoid or wheres good in Timperley?

Next up people usually start to look at places like Knutsford - train station, nice centre, mostly cheaper than Bowdon/Hale etc etc.......

Steady on! Is it not enough for you that we are opening up to Cheadle Hulme??

Edit: The other point to note about schools is that the Alty Grammar's are selective and single sex. So your child may still not get in wherever you live and selection (by definition) skews results. Being single sex they're also likely to end up emotionally/socially crippled which may or not be an issue to consider.

Well, I went through single sex education - ( ...is it that obvious)?? :o ....Would prefer mixed though, tbh. . . .But the exam results for these single sex grammars are outstanding - some of the very top UK wide. Still reseaching.

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Don't think that would put me off. If I had paid off my mortgage, I too might swan about in a nice car...till then, its a beat up old thing for me. :D

Not necessarily decided - you guys have given us some food for thought. You dont make it easy on here do you! wouldn't mind knowing a bit more about where to avoid or wheres good in Timperley?

Steady on! Is it not enough for you that we are opening up to Cheadle Hulme??

Well, I went through single sex education - ( ...is it that obvious)?? :o ....Would prefer mixed though, tbh. . . .But the exam results for these single sex grammars are outstanding - some of the very top UK wide. Still reseaching.

Me too.

The moment you select (i.e. exclude the lowest scoring percentiles) you obviously significantly skew the results. That's axiomatic.

I don't have a view on specific roads in Timperley so can't comment I'm afraid.

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Me too.

The moment you select (i.e. exclude the lowest scoring percentiles) you obviously significantly skew the results. That's axiomatic.

Yours was axiomatically a better school than mine.

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If not put off by any degree of ponceyness then Knutsford is more 'upmarket' than Cheadle Hulme. Slower train into Manchester. Questionable secondary schools and mixed bag of primary so doesn't fit your educational priorities.

I'd question planning ahead to secondary school though - dramatic changes (for better or worse) often happen within 2-3 years, let alone 10.

If you are looking ahead to secondary then it's worth considering oversubscription criterion - there are places that put you high on the list for multiple good schools, e.g. Live in Alty but send your child to Little Bollington - in catchment for Alty grammar, but also a feeder primary for Lymm high. There are several locations where this applies.

Sale Grammar does well and is mixed sex of course. Alty grammar raises the obvious question - if you can't get in then where are you going? One of my colleagues took both his (very intelligent - one now at Sale Grammar, other at Oxford) boys (at different ages) out of Alty grammar because they were very unhappy - don't pin everything on one school working out.

Poynton has much going for it (including good schools) but you're right that the traffic can be painful in most directions from there.

Bear in mind also that you could live somewhere like Macclesfield and pay for Kings and probably break even given the higher house prices in Hale etc.

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