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Why Polish People Come To Work In Uk

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Simples.

Yet back in Poland (where I spend many months of the year) the natives seem pretty prosperous as it is.

In the cities, more new prestige cars than I see even in Hampstead. Certainly more than I see in my Essex home town.

Every teenager on the tram or bus is playing with an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy.

People wear much smarter clothes than Brits, in my experience. Slobwear seems far less in evidence.

Upmarket salons, not just Toni & Guy etc, are full of customers all week.

In a nutshell, your big city Poles don't seem to want for anything.

I think it's countryside and small town Polish people in the main who migrate to the UK, instead of to a big city in Polska.

Although wages are apparently only 1/3 or 1/4 of the UK's, consumption and retail spend appears pretty robust in Poland.

One thing I would add, payday loans have appeared here in the last year or two including Wonga TV ads complete with the same muppets. I won't say the obvious...

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Yet back in Poland (where I spend many months of the year) the natives seem pretty prosperous as it is.

In the cities, more new prestige cars than I see even in Hampstead. Certainly more than I see in my Essex home town.

Every teenager on the tram or bus is playing with an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy.

People wear much smarter clothes than Brits, in my experience. Slobwear seems far less in evidence.

Upmarket salons, not just Toni & Guy etc, are full of customers all week.

In a nutshell, your big city Poles don't seem to want for anything.

I think it's countryside and small town Polish people in the main who migrate to the UK, instead of to a big city in Polska.

Although wages are apparently only 1/3 or 1/4 of the UK's, consumption and retail spend appears pretty robust in Poland.

One thing I would add, payday loans have appeared here in the last year or two including Wonga TV ads complete with the same muppets. I won't say the obvious...

Don't get me wrong. Quite a few of my colleagues are Polish and also some very good friends, plus I like their cities for a short break.

This graph just illustrates the reason why the average Polish person desires UK work, in a very topical way.

It's not about 'stealing' UK jobs, its about getting work that pays 4x the salary they get at home, outwith the folk you speak of.

Plus Europeans generally dress with a bit more sense of self awareness than do Brits, except perhaps for select bits of London.

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I bet the difference isn't quite so stark after taking into account the fact that essentials such as food, shelter and energy have to be bought out of your local wages before you can buy a PS4!

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Given the choice I would take Poland.

I was out there a couple of weeks ago, and although people doing the same job as me earn less, the cost of living is so low that they are laughing. Many of them only eat out as its cheaper than cooking! We went to the best restaurant we could find, ordered huge fat steaks with plenty of booze, and just could not blow the £25 expenses budget. Some lunchtimes we took loads of people out and fed all of them just on our individual expenses allowances!

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Clearly the parasitic rent seekers haven't exploited Poland yet.

Don't worry. My cousins fiance works for one the swiss banks and is heavily engaged in spreading the magic of UK / Swiss financial services in Poland.

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Yet back in Poland (where I spend many months of the year) the natives seem pretty prosperous as it is.

In the cities, more new prestige cars than I see even in Hampstead. Certainly more than I see in my Essex home town.

Every teenager on the tram or bus is playing with an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy.

People wear much smarter clothes than Brits, in my experience. Slobwear seems far less in evidence.

Upmarket salons, not just Toni & Guy etc, are full of customers all week.

In a nutshell, your big city Poles don't seem to want for anything.

I think it's countryside and small town Polish people in the main who migrate to the UK, instead of to a big city in Polska.

Although wages are apparently only 1/3 or 1/4 of the UK's, consumption and retail spend appears pretty robust in Poland.

One thing I would add, payday loans have appeared here in the last year or two including Wonga TV ads complete with the same muppets. I won't say the obvious...

Sounds just like Athens circa 2006. Northern European consumption levels on Southern European wages.

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Given the choice I would take Poland.

I was out there a couple of weeks ago, and although people doing the same job as me earn less, the cost of living is so low that they are laughing. Many of them only eat out as its cheaper than cooking! We went to the best restaurant we could find, ordered huge fat steaks with plenty of booze, and just could not blow the £25 expenses budget. Some lunchtimes we took loads of people out and fed all of them just on our individual expenses allowances!

You must have had very generous expense allowances then (by that I mean generous pro rata at 25). If you went to a gyros, your average per head is five quid excluding drinks. A proper restaurant will set you back upwards of 15 per head if you're lucky exc wine etc. A cinema seat after your meal will cost about a fiver, sometimes nearer a tenner in some cities. The only thing that's obviously cheaper is bread, beer, vodka, public transport.

Clearly the parasitic rent seekers haven't exploited Poland yet.

Sorry, not correct. Proportionally, rents are higher in Poland than the UK, that's why many share or couple up early. You're looking at 400 quid a month for a modest flat in a city, excluding underground garage space and utilities, although sometimes it includes heating. Average gross salary per month is about 800 quid, many are on less. Go outside of the cities, rents are less, but so are wages if you can even find work. (You're taxed in Poland after the first approx 600 quid per year. NI is high too as is VAT.)

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I bet the difference isn't quite so stark after taking into account the fact that essentials such as food, shelter and energy have to be bought out of your local wages before you can buy a PS4!

Quite, the market can obviously bear a higher relative price of desirable/marketable goods such as a ps4.

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I bet the difference isn't quite so stark after taking into account the fact that essentials such as food, shelter and energy have to be bought out of your local wages before you can buy a PS4!

Well, we can say the same for all of Eastern europe perhaps... but they still come to the UK because they are earning roughly 4x what they do at home, even with your assumptions on living costs they are probably pocketing at least the equivalent of an extra weeks worth of wages every month vs back home. That goes for the lowly fruit picker right through to medical doctor.

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:D

It wasn't considered central or west Europe behind the Iron Curtain.

My age is perhaps to blame in calling it otherwise.

I used to think it was EE too, and probably it's fair to say one end of it probably is really. Most Polish smile and gently correct me if I suggest it's EE, but some get a tad irritated, although that could just me my effect on them as I barely speak a word of the lingo and look like the slobby geek-nerd from Essex that I am :D

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