interestrateripoff Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341484/Floods-droughts-snow-May-Britains-weather-got-bad-Met-Office-worried.html Britain's weather has now got so bad even the Met Office is worried: Forecasters to hold meeting over floods, droughts and even snow in May Met Office has called extreme weather meeting for next week Experts to discuss if it is result of climate change or just typically British Meeting sparked after UK suffered its coldest spring for 50 years 'We have seen a run of unusual seasons in the UK,' Met Office says Next a Cobra meeting? I think they are aiming to work out if it's climate change or if the problem is they don't have accurate enough historical data to realise nothing out of the ordinary is happening. Still I'm sure they'll have nice tea / biscuits / sandwich buffet at taxpayer expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341484/Floods-droughts-snow-May-Britains-weather-got-bad-Met-Office-worried.html Next a Cobra meeting? I think they are aiming to work out if it's climate change or if the problem is they don't have accurate enough historical data to realise nothing out of the ordinary is happening. Still I'm sure they'll have nice tea / biscuits / sandwich buffet at taxpayer expense. What is the most lucrative for the politicians and most requiring of 'action?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappycocco Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Nothing to do with the high incidence of chemtrailing they've been doing up to this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggets Mahoney Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Nothing to do with the high incidence of chemtrailing they've been doing up to this month. linky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 budget to protect ...lets have a crisis meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Nothing to do with the high incidence of chemtrailing they've been doing up to this month. This, weather modification has been ongoing for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 One thing nobody has any control over is the weather.....it has control over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpewLabour Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Nothing to do with the high incidence of chemtrailing they've been doing up to this month. Oh God. Not this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolhunter Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Nothing to do with the high incidence of chemtrailing they've been doing up to this month. Umm.... what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichB Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 One thing nobody has any control over is the weather.....it has control over us. Oh god, not this again. No control over the weather... right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 One thing nobody has any control over is the weather.....it has control over us. You seriously think the US military (and the Russians and Chinese) haven't thought of using weather modification as a weapon yet? That's very naive, the right kind of weather can give the military a huge strategic advantage and the technology isn't complicated, cloud seeding has been studied and practised since the last 40-50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 bad weather is great for energy sales and GDP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saver Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341484/Floods-droughts-snow-May-Britains-weather-got-bad-Met-Office-worried.html Next a Cobra meeting? I think they are aiming to work out if it's climate change or if the problem is they don't have accurate enough historical data to realise nothing out of the ordinary is happening. Still I'm sure they'll have nice tea / biscuits / sandwich buffet at taxpayer expense. it says they are worried about the run of cold snowy winters - this is nothing new, we've had them before. I recall reading articles explaining this is a well known behaviour that reoccurs every 30 years or so in the UK, but its not understood exactly why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggets Mahoney Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 The possibility of weaponised weather is always there and even legitimate, uncontested contrails are going to have some impact on the amount of sunlight getting through, but... What gets me on this, and so many other fringe subjects is the certainty with which some people express themselves. Such strong conclusions on such patchy, usually inconclusive source material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 You seriously think the US military (and the Russians and Chinese) haven't thought of using weather modification as a weapon yet? That's very naive, the right kind of weather can give the military a huge strategic advantage and the technology isn't complicated, cloud seeding has been studied and practised since the last 40-50 years. The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction: “Owning the Weather” for Military Use Project Popeye mentioned here. New evidence suggests US & Russia are embroiled in an illegal race to harness the power of hurricanes & earthquakes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_warfare Intelligent fog No idea how practical any of this really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eight Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 What gets me on this, and so many other fringe subjects is the certainty with which some people express themselves. Such strong conclusions on such patchy, usually inconclusive source material. Might as well wade in with both feet then..... We seem to have been stuck since about 2005 in a kind of self reinforcing downward spiral. For instance, if I go outside now I will not see a single square inch of blue sky, at what should be the hottest part of the day, at a hot part of the year. Just impenetrable dense low cloud. This is quite normal now - apart from the blissful week or so we had a couple back, every day of "summer" is the same. Consequently the land is not getting warmed or dried. So we head into each new winter with the land colder and wetter than the year before. What we need to snap us out of it is a blistering couple of months of 30+ temperatures - but of course we know what conclusion would be drawn if that did happen. As I've said elsewhere, my personal money would be on the massive rise of windfarms in that timescale - it seems to fit in quite a number of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggets Mahoney Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 As mentioned in the OP, Question #1 should be is the recent weather/ climate consistent with historic, natural variability? I'm guessing one of the reasons for this gathering is that the British weather hasn't played out along the lines of the more sensational projections from 10-15 years ago, the general public has noticed and is starting to get a bit @rsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 As mentioned in the OP, Question #1 should be is the recent weather/ climate consistent with historic, natural variability? I'm guessing one of the reasons for this gathering is that the British weather hasn't played out along the lines of the more sensational projections from 10-15 years ago, the general public has noticed and is starting to get a bit @rsey. Do you mean specifically those with over priced housing built in natural flood plains which for some reason keep flooding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggets Mahoney Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Do you mean specifically those with over priced housing built in natural flood plains which for some reason keep flooding? That's the funny thing about flood plains... It's going to be a broader church but those people can join, definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomMonger Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 bad weather is great for energy sales and GDP. It's also the number one excuse for poor retail sales, low mortgage transactions and nearly every other "unexpected" story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eight Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I'm guessing one of the reasons for this gathering is that the British weather hasn't played out along the lines of the more sensational projections from 10-15 years ago, the general public has noticed and is starting to get a bit @rsey. I'd bet good money a lot of people wanted the Serengeti outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggets Mahoney Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I'd bet good money a lot of people wanted the Serengeti outcome. Bill Giles certainly seemed up for it Olive groves in Oxfordshire? Bill Giles, the BBC's weatherman, thinks so. Despite some particularly vicious nights of frost last winter, he is a firm believer in the idea of global warming. So much so that he is planning to plant olive trees in his own south Oxfordshire garden. In 20 years or so, he reckons, with the typical summer climate moving north at a rate of 10 kilometres a year, Dundee will be as balmy as Berkshire. France, he says, will be "a desert". Hard luck on the Dordogners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 That's the funny thing about flood plains... It's going to be a broader church but those people can join, definitely Clearly flood plains need better flood defences. Perhaps a new flood plain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichB Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 As I've said elsewhere, my personal money would be on the massive rise of windfarms in that timescale - it seems to fit in quite a number of ways. Not to mention all that mucking about with tidal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corevalue Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Whilst we enter the six successive month of below average CET (central England) temperatures, and anecdotally, things aren't any better in the US/Canada, a new seed catalog arrives. They have a new strawberry "Buddy", which "will fruit in even very hot summers which is becoming a more regular occurrence in the UK......." This is what is near-criminal, in my view. The IPCC alarmists have convinced plant breeders to produce heat and drought resistant varieties, when in fact, it looks like we need the opposite. These guys do NOT operate on a short turn-around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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