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Dunno why the feck I'm posting this here, but given the fact that the NHS is doing nothing for me, I might as well post my experiences on a forum dedicated to house prices.

I'm 29 years old; in November of last year I briefly passed blood and went to the doctor about it. An ultrasound confirmed that I had calcium buildup in my kidneys and cysts; a more detailed scan (I believe a CT scan) showed that I didn't have cancer or anything....and I heard nothing else back from the doc about discussing why there was a build up of calcium in my kidneys and what I could do to stop it.

Tried phoning doctor a few times in the months since and was told about 6 months ago that they would be doing a 'metabolic workup' or something, but that's never happened. Checked a couple of times about that, and nothing. I think because the CT scan showed I don't have cancer, I'm low priority and have received no other advice in the 7 months since the blood peeing incident.

In the months since; the following has happened:

- my kidneys frequently ache (not incredibly painful, but a slight throbbing sensation in them, I can 'feel' a sensation in them as I type this)

- my monthly visits to the barber involve less and less work on his part - I have notably less hair every month - could be my male pattern baldness accelerating but feck me it was never this quick

- my urine absolutely reeks alot of the time - I don't smoke, barely drink alcohol, and consume massive amounts of water and a fairly healthy diet... as far as I'm concerned my pee should not stink

.... aaaaaaaaand in the last couple of weeks, I've noticed for the first time ever that I have a bit of a BO problem. I can smell it myself, so christ knows what it must smell like to others. I'm no Brad Pitt but I've always prided myself on being well groomed and clean; I've never had any smell before and wasn't even the sort to sweat much as I'm very slim.... and suddenly smelling dodgy is...embarrassing...

I feel like I'm falling apart guys - does anyone have any experience of bypassing the NHS and trying to get to the bottom of this myself? Private doctors? Ordering blood tests online for nutrient deficiencies? I'd even thought of going to a fecking 'naturopath' to see what he says...

Rant over - thanks if you've read this far.

(and as I type this...my kidneys still hurt...)

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1. get a new doctor.

2. try CrowdMed - https://www.crowdmed.com/

edit: And my commiserations on this, I know how horrible it is to have something vaguely wrong with you that doesn't seem serious enough for the doctors to take an interest yet makes your life miserable.

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I've no idea, but on a lighter note, my instant thoughts... 1) do you like asparagus, 2) have you watched "let the right one in" maybe you're one of them ?:)

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I don't smoke, barely drink alcohol, and consume massive amounts of water and a fairly healthy diet... as far as I'm concerned my pee should not stink

Do you have a lot of salt on your food?

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Dunno why the feck I'm posting this here, but given the fact that the NHS is doing nothing for me, I might as well post my experiences on a forum dedicated to house prices.

I'm 29 years old; in November of last year I briefly passed blood and went to the doctor about it. An ultrasound confirmed that I had calcium buildup in my kidneys and cysts; a more detailed scan (I believe a CT scan) showed that I didn't have cancer or anything....and I heard nothing else back from the doc about discussing why there was a build up of calcium in my kidneys and what I could do to stop it.

Tried phoning doctor a few times in the months since and was told about 6 months ago that they would be doing a 'metabolic workup' or something, but that's never happened. Checked a couple of times about that, and nothing. I think because the CT scan showed I don't have cancer, I'm low priority and have received no other advice in the 7 months since the blood peeing incident.

In the months since; the following has happened:

- my kidneys frequently ache (not incredibly painful, but a slight throbbing sensation in them, I can 'feel' a sensation in them as I type this)

- my monthly visits to the barber involve less and less work on his part - I have notably less hair every month - could be my male pattern baldness accelerating but feck me it was never this quick

- my urine absolutely reeks alot of the time - I don't smoke, barely drink alcohol, and consume massive amounts of water and a fairly healthy diet... as far as I'm concerned my pee should not stink

.... aaaaaaaaand in the last couple of weeks, I've noticed for the first time ever that I have a bit of a BO problem. I can smell it myself, so christ knows what it must smell like to others. I'm no Brad Pitt but I've always prided myself on being well groomed and clean; I've never had any smell before and wasn't even the sort to sweat much as I'm very slim.... and suddenly smelling dodgy is...embarrassing...

I feel like I'm falling apart guys - does anyone have any experience of bypassing the NHS and trying to get to the bottom of this myself? Private doctors? Ordering blood tests online for nutrient deficiencies? I'd even thought of going to a fecking 'naturopath' to see what he says...

Rant over - thanks if you've read this far.

(and as I type this...my kidneys still hurt...)

Get your blood sugar levels checked. Diabetes has some, not all, of these symptoms.

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Whatever has effected your health could have also effected your body ph and caused a sensitivity that is causing the BO. I have some personal experience of this.

You're right though, BO can be pretty upsetting when you realise you have it no matter how often you shower, change your clothes, or put on deoderant/aftershave. I eventually narrowed mine down to the washing powder I was using which was a standard biological one. I discovered that the BO disappeared completely when I used a non bio liquid or powder. Also use a skin friendly deoderant rather than strong smelling one.

Give that a try.

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Kidney stones are often a sign of calcium malabsorbtion. To absorb calcium your body needs enough vitamin D and magnesium. Slow hair growth can also indicate the same, I noticed myself that when I take 5000IU of D3 a day my hair and even more so my beard hair grows noticeably faster and thicker.

So maybe take some magnesium and vitamin D3 supplements and see how it goes.

As I mentioned in some previous thread, my wife got rid of her kidney stones within a few days painlessly by drinking apple cider vinegar a couple of times a day. All you need to drink is a few sips, not a whole glass.

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The most common cause of kidney stones some sort of condition (probably genetic) where the kidneys to excrete too much calcium; or where the kidneys lack the ability to filter acid from the body (this one actually tends to cause calcium to build up in the kidneys as well as forming stones). However, there are many, many other causes. The correct treatment depends on correctly diagnosing the cause of the stones.

If you really do have "calcium build up" in the kidneys, then you need to have a full "metabolic workup" to try to work out why. I suggest you put a little more pressure on your GP and ask what is going on, and if you could be referred to a kidney specialist.

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I share the kidney blood & ache (but not the other stuff) - seeing urologist (ugh!) in a couple of weeks. I assume it's stones.

I've been eating paleo-ish for the past 18 months. Maybe something in that.

Will check back with you. Suggested questions for the doc?

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Kidney stones are often a sign of calcium malabsorbtion. To absorb calcium your body needs enough vitamin D and magnesium. Slow hair growth can also indicate the same, I noticed myself that when I take 5000IU of D3 a day my hair and even more so my beard hair grows noticeably faster and thicker.

So maybe take some magnesium and vitamin D3 supplements and see how it goes.

As I mentioned in some previous thread, my wife got rid of her kidney stones within a few days painlessly by drinking apple cider vinegar a couple of times a day. All you need to drink is a few sips, not a whole glass.

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What's you skin complexion? Are you dark skinned or light skinned?

We have had a pretty rubbish summer, and may be lack of sun light means your vitamin D is down?

Darker skin is obviously better suited to sunny climates, whilst light skin helps in the northern latitudes.

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What's you skin complexion? Are you dark skinned or light skinned?

I assume the question was actually directed at JoeDavola as I don't have a vitamin D problem, I've been taking it all winter and spring until recently. That said I'm light skinned.

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What's you skin complexion? Are you dark skinned or light skinned?

We have had a pretty rubbish summer, and may be lack of sun light means your vitamin D is down?

Darker skin is obviously better suited to sunny climates, whilst light skin helps in the northern latitudes.

He's from Northern Ireland, he'll be white as a sheet.

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He's from Northern Ireland, he'll be white as a sheet.

Ha!

Well I suppose I have no other choice being from NI ;)

Regarding Vitimin D; I paid for a test off the internet last year and my levels were:

25OH VitD (total) 68.7 nmol/L

25OH VitD3 65.9 nmol/L

25OH VitD2 2.8 nmol/L

I don't know whether these levels are 'good' enough or not?

As for magnesium, I'm chronically stressed/bit depressed so I'm probably excreting magnesium like there's no tomorrow.

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barely drink alcohol

That's your problem right there - get some juice down ya!

As Andy Stewart said:

There's no harm in taking a drabbie, it cures all your trouble and strife.

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Well, to chuck one thing into the mix Joe, are you eating too much protein?

My first encounter of the Catkins ;) diet was an MD, and boy did everybody know when he was on it as you could smell his breath from the far end of the room, and smell him from halfway up the room. He didn't have either quality when he wasn't on it.

IIRC it's because you take in too much protein then your body starts breaking it down to use as fuel rather than as a protein, and this creates lots of nitrate waste products which make you, your urine, and your breath all smell bad.

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Dunno why the feck I'm posting this here, but given the fact that the NHS is doing nothing for me, I might as well post my experiences on a forum dedicated to house prices.

I'm 29 years old; in November of last year I briefly passed blood and went to the doctor about it. An ultrasound confirmed that I had calcium buildup in my kidneys and cysts; a more detailed scan (I believe a CT scan) showed that I didn't have cancer or anything....and I heard nothing else back from the doc about discussing why there was a build up of calcium in my kidneys and what I could do to stop it.

Tried phoning doctor a few times in the months since and was told about 6 months ago that they would be doing a 'metabolic workup' or something, but that's never happened. Checked a couple of times about that, and nothing. I think because the CT scan showed I don't have cancer, I'm low priority and have received no other advice in the 7 months since the blood peeing incident.

In the months since; the following has happened:

- my kidneys frequently ache (not incredibly painful, but a slight throbbing sensation in them, I can 'feel' a sensation in them as I type this)

- my monthly visits to the barber involve less and less work on his part - I have notably less hair every month - could be my male pattern baldness accelerating but feck me it was never this quick

- my urine absolutely reeks alot of the time - I don't smoke, barely drink alcohol, and consume massive amounts of water and a fairly healthy diet... as far as I'm concerned my pee should not stink

.... aaaaaaaaand in the last couple of weeks, I've noticed for the first time ever that I have a bit of a BO problem. I can smell it myself, so christ knows what it must smell like to others. I'm no Brad Pitt but I've always prided myself on being well groomed and clean; I've never had any smell before and wasn't even the sort to sweat much as I'm very slim.... and suddenly smelling dodgy is...embarrassing...

I feel like I'm falling apart guys - does anyone have any experience of bypassing the NHS and trying to get to the bottom of this myself? Private doctors? Ordering blood tests online for nutrient deficiencies? I'd even thought of going to a fecking 'naturopath' to see what he says...

Rant over - thanks if you've read this far.

(and as I type this...my kidneys still hurt...)

As a temporary counter to the BO issue a couple of capfuls of Dettol in a daily bath will help as this will knock back the bacteria that convert sweat compounds into smells.

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Definitely the right thing to do to address this now, Joe.

I second the suggestions already made, try them all IMO.

i.e.

1. Make some serious noise at the doctors about it. In particular because one person I knew years back (older than you and a smoker/drinker) started smelling odd, his problem turned out to be his liver and he's dead now.

Apparently it's rare for liver issues to have this effect at an early stage but it can happen.

Diabetics smell funny sometimes as well, as someone else mentioned.

2. Take Vitamin D3 and magnesium (careful magnesium often comes with calcium which I guess you don't need).

3. Try the cider vinegar, sounds very odd to me, probably bull but you won't care if it works.

4. Reduce protein and increase fruit consumption, and try some fasting and/or major sweaty workouts to "cleanse the body a bit.

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Thanks for all the replies, much appreciated.

Do you have a lot of salt on your food?

- I never add salt to food, and generally eat healthy-ish stuff, but I'll run my eye over the salt content of the food I do eat.

Get your blood sugar levels checked. Diabetes has some, not all, of these symptoms.

- I'll head down to Boots and get a glucose meter; won't do any harm to see what my morning levels are and if there's any particular food that trigger really high levels.

I discovered that the BO disappeared completely when I used a non bio liquid or powder. Also use a skin friendly deoderant rather than strong smelling one.Give that a try.

- I'll give that a shot too, thanks.

Well, to chuck one thing into the mix Joe, are you eating too much protein?

- interesting idea - I did 'do' paleo a few years ago, but the result was I lost far too much weight; was emaciated (6 foot 2 and 122lbs); now up to a grand total of 135lbs ;)

As a temporary counter to the BO issue a couple of capfuls of Dettol in a daily bath will help as this will knock back the bacteria that convert sweat compounds into smells.

- I'm definately gonna try this, but do you literally mean the Dettol you would use to clean floors and stuff?

2. Take Vitamin D3 and magnesium (careful magnesium often comes with calcium which I guess you don't need).

3. Try the cider vinegar, sounds very odd to me, probably bull but you won't care if it works.

4. Reduce protein and increase fruit consumption, and try some fasting and/or major sweaty workouts to "cleanse the body a bit.

- I'll try all these, not sure if fasting is a good idea as I'm already underweight.

Regarding the metabolic workup I mentioned; I just checked and it was requested on the 6th December 2012; a consultant made the decision that I was 'low priority' and said I would be seen 'some time in May or June'. Which is bloody ridiculous isn't it?

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That's quite low (the normal range is 80-125 *), the point is your levels change over time depending on how much vitamin D you take in (either through sunshine or nutrition) so last year's values are irrelevant today.

*) https://en.wikipedia...povitaminosis_D

.... thanks for that info; the company I got the test from led me to believe my levels were 'adequate', but that link seems to show that I'm in the 'risk of osteoporosis' category - think I'll buy another test and see what my current levels are.

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3. Try the cider vinegar, sounds very odd to me, probably bull but you won't care if it works.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/32253-cure-kidney-stones-vinegar/

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/kidney_stones.html

http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/remedies-for-kidney-stones/

Like I said my wife tried it (after reading about it on the internet) when she had very painful kidney stones and it worked great for her, saved her from having to go to the doctor (which as you surely know is quite expensive in Switzerland, especially when you have a high excess on your health insurance like we do).

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- interesting idea - I did 'do' paleo a few years ago, but the result was I lost far too much weight; was emaciated (6 foot 2 and 122lbs); now up to a grand total of 135lbs ;)

That is very slim for your height. I wonder if you're just not eating enough calories.

Is it an acetone smell (like nail polish remover)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis

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