Trampa501 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Stock markets looking very gloomy today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_duke_of_hazzard Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-06-11/jim-o-neill-says-get-used-to-u-dot-s-dot-bond-yields-nearer-4-percent-than-2-percent mortgage rates to follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Fed futures implies an early taper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Investors should get used to U.S. Treasury yields rising toward 4 percent as the 30-year bull market in bonds comes to an end, according to Jim O’Neill, former chairman of Goldman Sachs Asset Management. “It’s all part of this big normalization that’s going to happen,” O’Neill said in an interview in London today. “In the process, there could be quite ugly days.” Likely more than just days as well. Edited June 11, 2013 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Who'd have thought the stock market boom based on nothing more than some idiot at the BoE putting a 1 in front of their bank balance would collapse.... A few months ago, I actually posted this, many people I knew were talking about putting their savings on the stock market because there was no return from their savings accounts...risky. Edited June 11, 2013 by TheCountOfNowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Who'd have thought the stock market boom based on nothing more than some idiot at the BoE putting a 1 in front of their bank balance would collapse.... A few months ago, I actually posted this, many people I knew were talking about putting their savings on the stock market because there was no return from their savings accounts...risky. I've been more or less full tits long since last November. Took some profits when we hit 6600 but I'm taking much more off the table today. Abe's kamikaze QE air drop has hit some serious turbulence and Benny hasn't really got his US Housing Bubble 2.0 going anywhere near vigorously enough to take up the slack of a QE taper. A nice 1,000 point crash in the FTSE would be a welcome leaving present for King Kunt, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Masked Tulip Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Buying opportunity coming up? Buy, ride the bounce and then get out of Dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Stocks down, PMs down, bond yields up. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Buying opportunity coming up? Buy, ride the bounce and then get out of Dodge. Having sold out at 5900 last autumn I had given up hope of getting back in. I'd be surprised if we don't start seeing some support in the next few days and I will probably miss the boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Stocks down, PMs down, bond yields up. Hmm. yen carry banzai'd risk off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Having sold out at 5900 last autumn I had given up hope of getting back in. I'd be surprised if we don't start seeing some support in the next few days and I will probably miss the boat. We might get near to 6200 which might be the in point dependant upon what happens in the coming days and assuming this is not the start of somrthing bigger. Might even go down towards 6000 before it is ramped up again. Just keep a close eye on things. I had not been keeping too close an eye on UK bond yields but have been interested to see where they have gone in recent days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InlikeFlynn Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Yup, our house fund is 50% equities 50% cash so we're taking a pounding today. Equities have been shooting ahead for the past 9 months or so: a correction is overdue. UK government gilt yields are edging up too.... http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GUKG10:IND nothing to get excited about as we're still only talking 2.2% but let's see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Either we settle down and it's another 'buy the dip' or we're setting up for a 1987 style event (now or later in the summer) place your bets (if it's the latter then I'm going to get my long standing $1000 gold, $18 silver) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Yup, our house fund is 50% equities 50% cash so we're taking a pounding today. Equities have been shooting ahead for the past 9 months or so: a correction is overdue. UK government gilt yields are edging up too.... http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GUKG10:IND nothing to get excited about as we're still only talking 2.2% but let's see what happens. It's just over a year now since we closed out at 5260 during the Greek elections in May 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Either we settle down and it's another 'buy the dip' or we're setting up for a 1987 style event (now or later in the summer) place your bets (if it's the latter then I'm going to get my long standing $1000 gold, $18 silver) What are the indicators to watch out for that might give us a clue as to whether it is buy the dip or the latter big event? Is it mainly the bond yields? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 What are the indicators to watch out for that might give us a clue as to whether it is buy the dip or the latter big event? Is it mainly the bond yields? I would still prefer well-paying, secure employment than a hot tip for the 3:30 at Newmarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Perhaps we're in a stealth bear market already? Has somebody told Nadeem Walayat, the stealth boom loon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justthisbloke Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I would still prefer well-paying, secure employment than a hot tip for the 3:30 at Newmarket. I'd prefer dividends from 20 or 30 companies; far more reliable than employment by one business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justthisbloke Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Still got my cash pile (and 60% equities). Wonder if this will be my chance to get shot of the cash at long last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/investing/article-2337975/MIDAS-SHARE-TIPS-Roman-Abramovich-buys-AFC-Energy.html AFC? Has be bought the Arsenal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Japan is going down again.Will this give Carney pause for thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherebee Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Still got my cash pile (and 60% equities). Wonder if this will be my chance to get shot of the cash at long last. post it to me. faster than putting in equities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I think it was a black Thursday in Asia - Japan down 6% and China down 3%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Buying opportunity coming up? Buy, ride the bounce and then get out of Dodge. Its how a lot of retail investors loose their money is to keep buying the dips as the market continues down. Its surprisingly easy to do, especially if they consider the stock (or currency) to be "oversold." A market can can remain "oversold" for quite some time. Well the aussie dollar has been "oversold" for quite a while but has fallen further, though there are some signs its reaching a bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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