interestrateripoff Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Not sure who he was, got the impression he might have been Labour claiming the housing benefit bill was too high, too much going to private landlords and that there needs to be more social housing to bring rents down! Clearly spin whilst not in power if it was Labour and nothing would change if they got elected, although he did have the gall to say the current mess is all the "govt" fault obviously Labour in it's 13 years of power did nothing to get us here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Not sure who he was, got the impression he might have been Labour claiming the housing benefit bill was too high, too much going to private landlords and that there needs to be more social housing to bring rents down! Clearly spin whilst not in power if it was Labour and nothing would change if they got elected, although he did have the gall to say the current mess is all the "govt" fault obviously Labour in it's 13 years of power did nothing to get us here. The BBC is certainly getting more and more confused. Last night the problem was "tackling the soaring cost of unemployment." I of course along with several other HPC'ers's who also heard it shouted back at the screen " you mean the soaring cost of Housing (Rentier) Benefits." After all the State mandates a human needs £71 a week to exist, but the rentier can 2, 3, 4 x that amount as a medieval entitlement for maintenance on his local land monopoly. Actually what soaring cost, as I think Job Seekers allowance, I gather its less expensive than the Winter Fuel Payment. High Rents, the elephant in the room, no one in Government and the media can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22785282 Ed Miliband is to promise to cap spending on social security so that a future Labour government can "turn the economy around".The party leader will also pledge to allow councils to negotiate lower rents with landlords to cut housing benefit and free up money for housebuilding. Mr Miliband will say only people who pay in to the system for more than two years should get jobseeker's allowance. But the Conservatives said he was "too weak" to deliver change. Mr Miliband's speech appears to represent a further move by Labour away from so-called "universal" benefits, awarded to all, irrespective of income. No idea who it was from Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-22785282 No idea who it was from Labour. This is why I don't vote. Its just posturing. Its up to the tenant to negotiate with their landlord, and to some extent the Government already did this by bringing down housing benefit levels. It was Ed Milibands lot that decided on above inflation rises for social housing, you know so the money could be spent on the staff and perks at the various ALMO's and HA's. To the point where some social rents in the North are now more than private rents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 The BBC is certainly getting more and more confused. Last night the problem was "tackling the soaring cost of unemployment." All those lazy unemployed people should be buying houses and renting them out. they will make a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeehead Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Imagine if the govt try to negotiate with every landlord! Unemployment problem solved at a stroke and we could forget about that pesky deflation too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Not sure who he was, got the impression he might have been Labour claiming the housing benefit bill was too high, too much going to private landlords and that there needs to be more social housing to bring rents down! Clearly spin whilst not in power if it was Labour and nothing would change if they got elected, although he did have the gall to say the current mess is all the "govt" fault obviously Labour in it's 13 years of power did nothing to get us here. If what I just saw was a re-run, it was the odious Liam (there is no money we spent it all) Byrne trying to curry favour with the electorate. Edit: From Wikipedia..... On leaving his position as Chief secretary to the Treasury following the change of British government in May 2010, Byrne left a note to his successor David Laws saying "Dear Chief Secretary, I’m afraid to tell you there's no money left. Kind regards – and good luck! Liam."[13] Byrne later claimed that it was just typical humour between politicians, but regretted it since the new government used it to justify the wave of cuts that were introduced. Edited June 6, 2013 by Bruce Banner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 If what I just saw was a re-run, it was the odious Liam (there is no money we spent it all) Byrne trying to curry favour with the electorate. Yep I think it was him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectrumFX Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Yep I think it was him. He was just on Radio 4 saying something similar, so it looks like he's doing the rounds today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Know thy enemy IRRO, Byrne is not sound. The original debt/deficit conflator. This guy has nothing but contempt for the little people. "Working With Liam Byrne" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/3468400/Cabinet-Minister-tells-civil-servants-when-to-bring-coffee-and-soup.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 He was just on Radio 4 saying something similar, so it looks like he's doing the rounds today. Labour's election campaign, underpinned by the re-writing of history, is beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Know thy enemy IRRO, Byrne is not sound. The original debt/deficit conflator. This guy has nothing but contempt for the little people. "Working With Liam Byrne" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/3468400/Cabinet-Minister-tells-civil-servants-when-to-bring-coffee-and-soup.html Nice find. I hadn't read that but it's written all over his face. Byrne would beat Balls in a world's slimiest politician competition. Obnoxious little man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Knimbies who say No Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Nice find. I hadn't read that but it's written all over his face. Byrne would beat Balls in a world's slimiest politician competition. Obnoxious little man. Yes. An odious creature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 It was Ed Milibands lot that decided on above inflation rises for social housing, you know so the money could be spent on the staff and perks at the various ALMO's and HA's. To the point where some social rents in the North are now more than private rents. This is a good point, 'council rents' have been increasing to fall in line with 'market rates' (which are distorted by HPI and housing benefit). Politicians have done everything in their power to increase that part of the cost of living. It's the price of land, housing that is the problem. Talk is cheap, housing is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 If all the people with a spare room rented it out then there'd be less demand on private sector housing and landlords would have to compete harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Not sure who he was, got the impression he might have been Labour claiming the housing benefit bill was too high, too much going to private landlords and that there needs to be more social housing to bring rents down!Clearly spin whilst not in power if it was Labour and nothing would change if they got elected, although he did have the gall to say the current mess is all the "govt" fault obviously Labour in it's 13 years of power did nothing to get us here. Time to raise the rents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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