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I put my car on Ebay on Thursday with no reserve and a starting price of £500.00. After a day into the auction I received a bid for £500.00 from a member with good feedback. The next day I received question from another member asking if I'd sell outside of eBay (normal time wasters). I replied that there was a bid of £500.00 so therefore the car was technically sold and invited the member to bid if required. I chose to post the Q&A publicly to hopefully prevent other similar questions. A few days went by and the bidder pulled the bid stating "entered wrong amount". So now I have a question in public stating a bid has been made and history of a pulled bid. Only I can see why the bid was pulled i.e "wrong amount". I'm not happy to say the least. It now appears to a casual observer as if the bid has been pulled because the car sucks. How can he have entered the wrong amount ? He bid the lowest amount possible. Shortly after the pulled bid I received messages asking if I'll sell out of eBay with cash waiting etc.

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I put my car on Ebay on Thursday with no reserve and a starting price of £500.00. After a day into the auction I received a bid for £500.00 from a member with good feedback. The next day I received question from another member asking if I'd sell outside of eBay (normal time wasters). I replied that there was a bid of £500.00 so therefore the car was technically sold and invited the member to bid if required. I chose to post the Q&A publicly to hopefully prevent other similar questions. A few days went by and the bidder pulled the bid stating "entered wrong amount". So now I have a question in public stating a bid has been made and history of a pulled bid. Only I can see why the bid was pulled i.e "wrong amount". I'm not happy to say the least. It now appears to a casual observer as if the bid has been pulled because the car sucks. How can he have entered the wrong amount ? He bid the lowest amount possible. Shortly after the pulled bid I received messages asking if I'll sell out of eBay with cash waiting etc.

Cars seem to attract wrong 'uns, it was fashionable to blame your child for ill-advised bids a while ago.

Nowt you can do really, despite being completely in the right.

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He bid the lowest amount possible.

You dont know that, remember ebay only ever shows you the second highest bid thats been made

bidder 1 bids £5000

bidder 2 bids £520

bidder1 wins and pays £530

This guy may come back and rebid at the last minute

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He bid the lowest amount possible.

You dont know that, remember ebay only ever shows you the second highest bid thats been made

bidder 1 bids £5000

bidder 2 bids £520

bidder1 wins and pays £530

This guy may come back and rebid at the last minute

I stand corrected,thanks.

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I put my car on Ebay on Thursday with no reserve and a starting price of £500.00. After a day into the auction I received a bid for £500.00 from a member with good feedback. The next day I received question from another member asking if I'd sell outside of eBay (normal time wasters). I replied that there was a bid of £500.00 so therefore the car was technically sold and invited the member to bid if required. I chose to post the Q&A publicly to hopefully prevent other similar questions. A few days went by and the bidder pulled the bid stating "entered wrong amount". So now I have a question in public stating a bid has been made and history of a pulled bid. Only I can see why the bid was pulled i.e "wrong amount". I'm not happy to say the least. It now appears to a casual observer as if the bid has been pulled because the car sucks. How can he have entered the wrong amount ? He bid the lowest amount possible. Shortly after the pulled bid I received messages asking if I'll sell out of eBay with cash waiting etc.

I bought my car via Ebay years ago. That is, I contacted the seller and eventually made a private purchase after his auction concluded with the reserve not being met.

I got the impression that that is a common situation with cars on Ebay.

I wouldn't buy a car without seeing it first and doing a face to face deal.

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Certain items on eBay I would much prefer somebody to come over and pay cash. Ill then end the listing early, using the tick box 'item is no longer for sale'. Cars are definitely one of those certain things. And if you look back trough completed listings in cars and motorbikes there will be an awful lot of them look ended unsold. It's not because they didn't sell, it's because they just sold outside of eBay.

There's some big plus sides to this. You get rid of the car early and easily. You save a fortune in the final value fees. Buyer feels like he's got a bargain. No chance of bad feedback because no ebay transaction has occurred.

For certain items its almost impossible to win an auction unless you play along with this game. For example 125 motorbikes with mot and tax will almost never actually finish. They all get sold early. Which can be infuriating when you are playing by the rules and trying to win an auction. Until you realise what the game is.

There's also no risk to the seller really as you wait until they have viewed, paid the cash and driven off before ending the auction.

I bought my newest bicycle in this exact manner.

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To me it is inhabited by people wanting the earth and expecting to pay nothing, especially if you are looking at commodity items (laptops, cars, consumer electronics etc).

I know someone who deals cars. He says that he is forever getting someone turning up and then trying to negotiate a few quid off the price because they have seen something they don't like or are just being picky. To me the hassle seems hardly worth the effort.

I think it is a good place to find certain stuff, and you can get a bargain sometimes. For example if you want a specialist piece of test equipment you can find it there much cheaper. Every now and then you get some stuff which is knackered and/or doesn't quite work properly. Thems the breaks. To me I just chuck this and go for another. Even if you end up chucking two eventually you will find one that works, and you still save a batch of cash. Some people are too greedy.

Generally I have found the best profile to buy from is personal dealers who are selling one offs of specialist stuff that are really into their hobby.

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EBay is great for buying slightly out of date computing stuff! I wanted a slim DVD writer with IDE interface! Sorted!

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I bought my car via Ebay years ago. That is, I contacted the seller and eventually made a private purchase after his auction concluded with the reserve not being met.

I got the impression that that is a common situation with cars on Ebay.

I wouldn't buy a car without seeing it first and doing a face to face deal.

True story:

I bought a cheap car on eBay.

it was crap.

So after a few weeks, I sold it on eBay.

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http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=terrytheo5&ftab=FeedbackAsBuyer

Bid retractions in the last 12 months = 80. See you next Tuesday.

Agreed, he's a chancer and a timewaster.

I didn't know you could actually retract a bid on eBay.

What if someone else has subsequently bid higher? What happens? Is the first bidder still allowed to retract? Does the second bidder get his bid reduced to reflect this? Either the seller or the second bidder lose out somehow.

Allowing bid retraction is an invitation for shill bids by the seller using an alias, too.

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Can't you just take down the auction and put it back up clean?

I could but it would cost me to do so. I want the car to go as I'm looking new cars next week when I'm off work. So it's not practical and why should I because of this idiot.

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Agreed, he's a chancer and a timewaster.

I didn't know you could actually retract a bid on eBay.

What if someone else has subsequently bid higher? What happens? Is the first bidder still allowed to retract? Does the second bidder get his bid reduced to reflect this? Either the seller or the second bidder lose out somehow.

Allowing bid retraction is an invitation for shill bids by the seller using an alias, too.

Not sure about all that to be honest. In regard to other comments which I haven't quoted,selling a desirable old car on eBay (mine's a good Saxo VTR) via auction is better than having tyre kickers come round to haggle. I can't be bothered. I've sold cars before and describe them well. People buy and collect - no inspection. I'm trusted. However, if you have an old sh*t box that you want rid of, then yes take whatever comes up and end the auction. This guy has wound me up though and it's not the money. I've reported him but if they ain't done nothing after 80 retractions in twelve month then it seems likely nothing will happen. I have a new bid now - I'm happy.

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Agreed, he's a chancer and a timewaster.

I didn't know you could actually retract a bid on eBay.

What if someone else has subsequently bid higher? What happens? Is the first bidder still allowed to retract? Does the second bidder get his bid reduced to reflect this? Either the seller or the second bidder lose out somehow.

Allowing bid retraction is an invitation for shill bids by the seller using an alias, too.

I didn't know you could retract bids either. I've ended up buying some right shite I wish I hadn't bid on earlier on.

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I didn't know you could retract bids either. I've ended up buying some right shite I wish I hadn't bid on earlier on.

Here's the reply from eBay

"Hello XXXXX,

Thank you for writing to us about this bidder "terrytheo5" who have not corrected the bid they placed on your listing (item XXXXXXXX). I can assure you that we don't tolerate this kind of behaviour on eBay.

Inappropriate or excessive bid retractions harm the eBay marketplace. It is unfair to buyers who are placing legitimate bids and it can harm sellers by driving away legitimate bidders. Bid retraction undermines trust in the marketplace, since a bid is a binding contract between the seller and the buyer.

I've investigated your report and can confirm that we have taken the appropriate action. This can range from issuing the member with an informational alert, a temporary suspension, an indefinite suspension or terminating the member's account. Bear in mind that not all of the actions we take are visible to other members or evident immediately.

Please understand however that although we can confirm that we've taken action against the reported member, we cannot provide specific details about the action to protect the privacy of all members. I hope this information, if nothing else, reassures you of the level of privacy that your own account with eBay holds.

For more information about this policy, please copy the following links into a new browser window:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/invalid-bid-retraction.html

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buy/bid-retract.html

For your reference, you can check how often a member has retracted a bid in the past 12 months in their Feedback Profile. You'll find it on the "Feedback as a buyer" tab. If you are concerned about a bidder with a high number of recent bid retractions, I suggest you send them an email to ask them about it.

If they don't respond or you'd prefer not to allow them to bid on your item, you can cancel their bid and block them from bidding on your items. Learn more about managing bidders by copying this link into a new browser window:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/manage_bidders_ov.html

XXXXX, you can also have the option to end this listing early since you mentioned that you've turned on the Question and Answer portion of your listing. For more information on ending your listing early and managing your Qand A, copy these links below:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/questions/endlist-now.html

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/answer_qs.html

Once again, thanks for taking the time to forward this information to us. I trust I've provided the information you need in managing your listing.

Kind regards,

Leona Watts

eBay Trust & Safety

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