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Prince Charles Blames Horsemeat Scandal On Farming Standards

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Prince Charles blames horsemeat scandal on farming standards

Perhaps Chuck should remind himself that if his ancestors, plus their aristocratic hangers-on, did not establish the feudal system of land ownership that personally brings him £millions, exacerbated by the aristocratic land-grabs of the notorious Enclosures Acts, and the still-extant representation of these meritless aristocrats in the House of Lords, protecting their own self-interest, food production in this nation would not be monopolised by people who both historically and currently don't give a flying f*ck about how well, or badly, the rest of us eat.

Appreciation of irony does not seem to be Chuck's strongest point.

Don't expect him to be turning over his vinyards to produce more essential foodstuffs for hoi polloi any time soon.

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Prince Charles blames horsemeat scandal on farming standards

Perhaps Chuck should remind himself that if his ancestors, plus their aristocratic hangers-on, did not establish the feudal system of land ownership that personally brings him £millions, exacerbated by the aristocratic land-grabs of the notorious Enclosures Acts, and the still-extant representation of these meritless aristocrats in the House of Lords, protecting their own self-interest, food production in this nation would not be monopolised by people who both historically and currently don't give a flying f*ck about how well, or badly, the rest of us eat.

Appreciation of irony does not seem to be Chuck's strongest point.

Don't expect him to be turning over his vinyards to produce more essential foodstuffs for hoi polloi any time soon.

Despite eating food being one of the pleasures in life that encompasses all the senses and gives social interaction, people want it to be the smallest part of their budget; buying food as as cheaply as possible, cooking it as simply as possible and sitting down to eat it as fast as possible while watching X-factor on a 50" plasma TV is the way food is appreciated.

To satisfy the masses and keep them quiet the supermarkets drive down prices, and governments join in by paying farmers through taxation, so in the end we don't even pay for the food at the checkout.

It all all leads to junk under the present system.

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Despite eating food being one of the pleasures in life that encompasses all the senses and gives social interaction, people want it to be the smallest part of their budget; buying food as as cheaply as possible, cooking it as simply as possible and sitting down to eat it as fast as possible while watching X-factor on a 50" plasma TV is the way food is appreciated.

To satisfy the masses and keep them quiet the supermarkets drive down prices, and governments join in by paying farmers through taxation, so in the end we don't even pay for the food at the checkout.

It all all leads to junk under the present system.

Charles makes some valid points, it's his hypocrisy and complete lack of self-awareness that galls me.

He has, via a feudal system, become the priviliged farmer/owner of numerous farms, iherited rather than aquired or built up by hard work.

Subsidies mean that we all pay indirectly, as well as directly, for 'cheap' food. Charles jets over to global conferences to criticise agricultural subsidies, but is quite prepared to receive CAP subsidies (i.e. a state benefit ) to the tune of €1.5m a year, an annual sum that is greater than most of his prospective subjects would even earn through hard work in their entire lifetimes.

I don't think Charles lives the life of an average agricultural worker. He, via his farms, makes a profit, to which the taxpayer contributes a benefit that is not gauged by his personal hard work but rather on the size of the land he inherited. A wealthy man taking money from the taxpayer.

Perhaps he, like Marie Antoinette, likes to dress up on his farm as a happy peasant and pretend that he is in touch with a populace that lives in a bucolic idyll. But that's not building up a farm from nothing through hard work and sacrifice.

His attitude to sustainability is bizarre, flawed, and to my mind, utterly cynical. Great play was made a few years ago about how he converted his Aston Martin to run on bioethanol made from surplus wine production. In fact, he drives only about 300 miles a year in it, and at 10mpg (petrol), this is nothing but a cynical, 30-gallons-worth-of-petrol publicity stunt.

Bioethanol is itself a highly controvertial subject, requiring land that could otherwise be used for food production (and thus keep food prices lower without tempting farmers and suppliers to denature our food with contaminants ). Bioethanol production would thus make food scarcer, more expensive, and thus more profitable to wealthy landowners.

If farms aren't indirectly subsidised, and farmers aren't efficient, then food costs for the population will rise or the quality of what they can afford will fall. Food prices in the UK are rising in ther UK much faster than RPI or CPI. What Charles moans about is that farmers don't get paid enough money.

Sustainable farming is important. Good quality food is important. His expressed concerns are generally legitimate, but he just doesn't grasp that he and his ilk are at the core of the problem; through no merit, 1% of the population, including him, own most of the land in the UK, and the remaining 99% have to work hard just to keep fed. Most cannot afford the luxury of Duchy organic marmalade.

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To satisfy the masses and keep them quiet the supermarkets drive down prices, and governments join in by paying farmers through taxation, so in the end we don't even pay for the food at the checkout.

It all all leads to junk under the present system.

have you not realised yet,that this "excess" is actually part of the plan.

....for a few months more at least....and then the POTB plan to turn the taps off.....and create artificail scarcity

works exactly the same way as the drug-dealers do....here, have a cheap sample to get you hooked.straight out of the marxist textbook.

I suggest these people be given the malaysian/singapore approach to drug dealers when they attempt what they are trying to attempt.

no point blaming the muslims...who let them in?(and besides they're only foot-soldiers)

target the generals behind them

watch what the hands are doing, not what the lips are saying.

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Despite eating food being one of the pleasures in life that encompasses all the senses and gives social interaction, people want it to be the smallest part of their budget; buying food as as cheaply as possible, cooking it as simply as possible and sitting down to eat it as fast as possible while watching X-factor on a 50" plasma TV is the way food is appreciated.

To satisfy the masses and keep them quiet the supermarkets drive down prices, and governments join in by paying farmers through taxation, so in the end we don't even pay for the food at the checkout.

It all all leads to junk under the present system.

If so called 'poor' (and other) families would be prepared to spend the same amount of money on real food as they do on takeaways and ready-meals then they would find they could live perfectly healthily for the same or less money.

I ended up following a stereotypical 'poor' family around a supermarket a few weeks ago (yes, I know they may well have been poor - and i was not really following them, just kept coming across them). They had obviously skipped the fresh fruit and veg section. When they got to the chilled aisle I overheard them complaining that the price of the fake butter substitute they usually buy had gone up 2p from last week. Then in the next aisle I saw them stocking up on those strange microwave burger things (are they even food?)

CThere is nothing wrong with UK farming that could not be fixed by a better educated population and a supermarket industry that realised the end result of their driving down of prices (to their suppliers - not the consumers, prices for them always increase...) puts pressure on - if nothing else - animal welfare. They also need to source produces that they know the provenance of - the UK should not import any food that is not produced to at least the same welfare standards as we have in the UK - much European pigmeat for example now breaches EU welfare rules. The same for eggs, the UK is largely compliant with the latest regulations - however the supermarkets and food processors are able to buy in cheaper eggs/pigmeat that is only cheaper as it is produced in substandard conditions.

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charles really ought to behave more like his mother. he should not express an opinion on anything he is simply a figure head. god help us all when he does eventually become king.

the horsemeat scandal was mainly due to imports from the eu. so is he talking about our farming standards or about eu farming standards.

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Farming standards?

We have many standards in this and all countries and areas of life.

CRIMINALS dont give a frack.

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Farming standards?

We have many standards in this and all countries and areas of life.

CRIMINALS dont give a frack.

The BBC article says

The horsemeat scandal and declining public health are symptoms of a "drive to the bottom" in food production standards, Prince Charles has said.

Speaking in Germany, the Prince of Wales said the "aggressive search for cheaper food" should be replaced by more sustainable production worldwide.

He said farmers were being "driven into the ground" by low prices, which had led to some "worrying shortcuts".

Now, those various words of Charles may be taken out of context, but it appears that he is saying that food prices somehow 'drove' food producers to adulterate beef, etc., with horsemeat. As if it was an economic problem, rather than pure blatant criminality.

Higher food prices could just as easily encourage more criminality, not less.

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charles really ought to behave more like his mother. he should not express an opinion on anything he is simply a figure head. god help us all when he does eventually become king.

the horsemeat scandal was mainly due to imports from the eu. so is he talking about our farming standards or about eu farming standards.

If he does become King, he will probably blunder into a constitutional crisis of one sort or another. i would not be surprised if he brought the monarchy down.

I fundamentally dislike the feudal system of monarchy, but, that said, our Queen has generally shown excellent judgement and done a good job. As far as I can see, anyway - we don't get to see 'behind the scenes'.

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If he does become King, he will probably blunder into a constitutional crisis of one sort or another. i would not be surprised if he brought the monarchy down.

I fundamentally dislike the feudal system of monarchy, but, that said, our Queen has generally shown excellent judgement and done a good job. As far as I can see, anyway - we don't get to see 'behind the scenes'.

She does what anyone in power should do - keep your trap shut, and your subjects guessing.

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In practice paying three quid for a small packet of biscuits or taking out a second mortgage for a Duchy lamb shank from Waitrose isn't an option for most people's budgets.

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