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I beleive centre point was empty for 5 years.

Most skyscrapers are 'profitable' when 1/3 full, so only another 18 floors required to be occupied (how many does the hotel take?)

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We saw exactly the same stories re Gerkhin. Didn't stop it becoming uber profitable.

Let's see what happens after next crash, probably after 2015 election

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Good to know the good folk of Southwark can afford to forego £12m a year for the next couple of years.

Disgusting isnt it.

We're failing, we made bad decisions, but its OK, we're a big player so are negotiating non-payment of our council taxes.

They seem proud of it.

Does seem odd its empty if others are let though. I suppose its in the cursed 'south of the river' zone.

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'Only occupants are 32nd floor restaurant and a viewing gallery on the upper five floors '

with success like this,we clearly need more investment oppurtunities in central london.edit to add,don't see why they're let off their rates bill.

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Not sure its entirely about money. Built with Qatari cash.

At one time Wren and Hawksmoor churches dominated the London sky line (especially in poorer East London) and stamped Christian authority throughout the City.

Its a form of occupation I guess.

Just my alternative view on the subject. B)

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Not sure its entirely about money. Built with Qatari cash.

At one time Wren and Hawksmoor churches dominated the London sky line (especially in poorer East London) and stamped Christian authority throughout the City.

Its a form of occupation I guess.

Just my alternative view on the subject. B)

yes you can see the minarets protruding from the top of the Shard.

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viewing gallery on the upper five floors, which offers visitors stunning views of the capital for £25.

I wonder how many paying customers they get? So many that one floor is not enough?

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Good to know the good folk of Southwark can afford to forego £12m a year for the next couple of years.

NNDR is collected by the council (hence "due"), but is sent immediately to central government & redistributed - otherwise Tower Hamlets would be the richest borough in the country. The people of Southwark are foregoing far less than that, probably under £3m (they don't get more than 50% back, and this is then damped by up to another 50%)

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And even when they are inhabited, £50M luxury apartments commanding a mere £200 a month Council Tax.

The people of Southwark must be even more pleased. dry.gif

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The kebab hut underneath the railway bridge by the Shard gives you an AMAZING 18 onion rings per (large) serving!

How many rings in an onion? ;)

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We saw exactly the same stories re Gerkhin. Didn't stop it becoming uber profitable.

One Canada Square stood alone and unloved for some years.

Both of these buildings benefited from the huge expansion in the UK's financial sector in the 1990s and 2000s. Is it plausible to believe that the financial sector can expand even further to occupy all of the new office space going up around the City at the moment? Everything is so financialised already, hard to see it going much further. In ten years we went from 3.5x income-verified single earner to 4x joint liar loan mortgages. What would come next, 10x multigenerational plus family pets mortgages where the bank doesn't even ask for your name, never mind your financial details?

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Not sure its entirely about money. Built with Qatari cash.

At one time Wren and Hawksmoor churches dominated the London sky line (especially in poorer East London) and stamped Christian authority throughout the City.

Its a form of occupation I guess.

Just my alternative view on the subject. B)

Nah, the Qataris just want to make money. If there was any kind of cultural element behind it, the buildings would have some kind of religious look or theme to them. Mind you, the Shard does look a bit as I imagine Barad-dûr might, so maybe the Qatari royal family are secret Tolkien fans?

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How many rings in an onion? ;)

Unfortunately they don't grow in a battered & deep fried state otherwise I'd have them in my garden.

Even at 2am I was so amazed I counted them all. If I was younger I would've tweeted or Facebucked about it.

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Both of these buildings benefited from the huge expansion in the UK's financial sector in the 1990s and 2000s. Is it plausible to believe that the financial sector can expand even further to occupy all of the new office space going up around the City at the moment?

You're making two assumptions there which are not necessarily correct. The first is that it's only FS companies that take office space in that part of London. The second is that only firms that are expanding will want the space. The former is definitely wrong - many large non-FS companies still have their headquarters or, at least, major offices in the City. The latter is hard to judge since there don't seem to be any figures around but I know of at least one medium sized bank that has recently shut offices elsewhere in London so as to consolidate more of their staff in the City having been able to rent space for substantially less per sqft than a few years back.

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Unfortunately they don't grow in a battered & deep fried state otherwise I'd have them in my garden.

Even at 2am I was so amazed I counted them all. If I was younger I would've tweeted or Facebucked about it.

Maybe they are reliant on repeat business.....I always liked a wally with my fries. ;)

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