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weather is crap too...daughters camp site is not very busy...so she has little waitressing to do.....but sunbaving is also hit and miss.

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The French private sector was one of their big success stories getting more productivity per hour than even the US.

yep, they can produce more government tick box forms and reports than any other nation on Erf. Fonctionaires rejoice.

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The law limiting bosses pay in France was shelved today. Another campaign promise scrapped.

Slightly more interesting the French Interior Minister Manuel "Franco" Valls wants to ban the opposition movement "French Spring"

http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2013/05/24/mariage-pour-tous-l-interieur-etudie-une-interdiction-du-printemps-francais

He says "There is no place in France for groups that defy the Government and democracy and attack individuals". French Spring is a hot-potch of people who are not happy with the current government including Catholics, right wingers and people who have suffered the economic consequences of the Socialists first disastrous year in government. The group has run large protests in Paris with figures ranging from 300,000 according to Valls and the Police to closer to 2 million according to the organizers. Film of the protests taken by the Paris police from a helicopter was seized by the secret service and a crudely photoshopped images were released to the press with protestors airbrushed out to back up the low numbers claimed by the interior ministry.

However is Valls looking beyond the protests of Catholics and right wing extremists to a Greek level of protest as the economy implodes and to having laws in place to nip any movement in the bud before it can gain any traction?

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IMO in France the government would collapse long before it ever got as bad as Greece or Spain, the people would all be on the streets. Not wild about the French culture but this is one of the better aspects of it IMO, one that the Brits could learn from.

Where were we all when the banks were bailed out in a way that benefited them and teh politicians not the people? Moaning on here.....

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Car and light commercial vehicles production 2012

France 1,682,814 284,951 1,967,765 -12.3%

UK 1,464,906 112,039 1,576,945 +7.7%

Unemployment

French 10.3%

UK 7.8%

Ease of Doing Business Rank

French 34th

UK 6th

Industrial Sector as a % of GDP 2012

French 18.3%

UK 21.5%

Public debt

French 89.9% of GDP (2012 est.)

UK 88.7% of GDP (2012 est.)

Growth last 2 quarters

France -0.20 -0.20

United Kingdom 0.30 -0.30

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the French private sector is doing a lot better than the UK's, by just about every possible measure of success

Would "every possible measure of success" include the statistics on the number of young French voting with their feet and emigrating to London?

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He says "There is no place in France for groups that defy the Government

LOL? :lol:

They really are getting desperate. It's all going to blow up soon.

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:lol:

That's pretty good, though I noticed she was smart enough not to be proposing to go to London, presumably she's aware the boomers have dumped just as badly on the young in the UK.

Yeah, but Canada? Australia?

"Je partirai où ? En Allemagne peut-être, dont vous dites tant de mal, mais qui a l'air d'être un pays qui a confiance en lui. Ou alors plus loin, au Canada, en Australie. Ou dans un pays en développement. En Afrique, pourquoi pas ?"

Germany, if they decide to pay their workers more.

Africa may be a good bet.

Or - gasp! - € periphery.

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:lol:

That's pretty good, though I noticed she was smart enough not to be proposing to go to London, presumably she's aware the boomers have dumped just as badly on the young in the UK.

Yes and I doubt the financial services sector are what they once were. Germany or maybe Switzerland, if she doesn't want to go too far.

Still the unemployment benefit is nice in France :-)

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Yes and I doubt the financial services sector are what they once were. Germany or maybe Switzerland, if she doesn't want to go too far.

Still the unemployment benefit is nice in France :-)

I reckon if you can stand the climate and have any sought-after skills, for a young French person Ireland is a good option.

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Slightly more interesting the French Interior Minister Manuel "Franco" Valls wants to ban the opposition movement "French Spring"

http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2013/05/24/mariage-pour-tous-l-interieur-etudie-une-interdiction-du-printemps-francais

He says "There is no place in France for groups that defy the Government and democracy and attack individuals". French Spring is a hot-potch of people who are not happy with the current government including Catholics, right wingers and people who have suffered the economic consequences of the Socialists first disastrous year in government. The group has run large protests in Paris with figures ranging from 300,000 according to Valls and the Police to closer to 2 million according to the organizers. Film of the protests taken by the Paris police from a helicopter was seized by the secret service and a crudely photoshopped images were released to the press with protestors airbrushed out to back up the low numbers claimed by the interior ministry.

However is Valls looking beyond the protests of Catholics and right wing extremists to a Greek level of protest as the economy implodes and to having laws in place to nip any movement in the bud before it can gain any traction?

The 'French Spring' are a group of radical extreme right wing catholic groups who are against gay marriages.

He wants to stop a demonstration that is going to be held this Sunday in Paris.

This is due to death threats that certain famous people and politicians have recieved due to there support for the gay marriage bill and an increase in recent anti homosexual violent attacks.

The link is called 'mariage pour tous' marriage for everybody'

They are not a political party they hate gays;

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The French private sector was one of their big success stories getting more productivity per hour than even the US.

that is mainly because firing people is so hard it makes sense to invest in capital machinery instead of hiring more people to increase output.

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I reckon if you can stand the climate and have any sought-after skills, for a young French person Ireland is a good option.

Why Ireland? They haven't got any jobs.

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Yeah, but Canada?

The French language thing seems to be less of a draw than you might expect (possibly because of the weird Canadian French accent). I've met hardly anyone from France since I moved here whereas as I met plenty when I was living in the US. Stats for 2006 seem to back this up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Canada#Canadian_permanent_resident_population_by_country_of_birth_.282006.29

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