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Russian Pacific Fleet Warships Enter Mediterranean For First Time In Decades

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In an historic event, the Russian Pacific fleet, for the first time in decades, crossed the Suez Canal and entered the Mediterranean, direction Cyprus' port of Limasol (hi Cyprus - Russia will be arriving shortly) in what is now the loudest implied warning to the US and Israel amassing military units across Syria's border that Russia will not stand idly by as Syria is used by the Israeli "Defense" Forces for target practice. “The task force has successfully passed through the Suez Channel and entered the Mediterranean. It is the first time in decades that Pacific Fleet warships enter this region,” Capt. First Rank Roman Martov said. This is what is also known as dropping hints, loud and clear.

- note the Cyprus link.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-16/russian-pacific-fleet-warships-enter-mediterranean-first-time-decades

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My long ago studied history reminds me of something to do with Port Arthur. Russian fleet had to go half-way round the world to get there and were getting smacked by the Japanese. Their aggression towards getting a warm water port started in the 19th Century.

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In an historic event, the Russian Pacific fleet, for the first time in decades, crossed the Suez Canal and entered the Mediterranean, direction Cyprus' port of Limasol (hi Cyprus - Russia will be arriving shortly) in what is now the loudest implied warning to the US and Israel amassing military units across Syria's border that Russia will not stand idly by as Syria is used by the Israeli "Defense" Forces for target practice. “The task force has successfully passed through the Suez Channel and entered the Mediterranean. It is the first time in decades that Pacific Fleet warships enter this region,” Capt. First Rank Roman Martov said. This is what is also known as dropping hints, loud and clear.

- note the Cyprus link.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-16/russian-pacific-fleet-warships-enter-mediterranean-first-time-decades

reminds me of how the nuclear war was triggered in Threads...

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Geography has never been the Russian Navy's friend.

Even more so back in the good old days when it could be denied access to the Suez Canal

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Interestingly, the Russian fleet in the Mediterranean has only three exit routes; Suez, the Strait of Gibraltar, and via Istanbul - all botlenecks. Their supply lines overland to the fleet aren't all that good either (and would become worse if Syria fell to rebels).

Russia might be wise not to flex it's fleet's muscles too much.

Edit: Mind you, if things did kick off, it would be worth it just to see an Ekranoplan in action!

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Edit: Mind you, if things did kick off, it would be worth it just to see an Ekranoplan in action!

Russian designed ...hmmmm

Gerry Anderson more likely

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Wow! They even show Kryten piloting it at 0:30!

Actually, my theory about the Caspian Sea Monster is that they set out to design an airliner, but it turned out a bit sh**.

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reminds me of how the nuclear war was triggered in Threads...

At least it will take some people's minds off house prices.

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Russia lacks AEGIS quality frigates and destroyers at present.

They do however have other advanced missile, radar, countermeasure systems.

Interesting game of cards to protect their natural gas hegemony in the region via pipelines and strategic geographic control.

This 'war' isn't about idealogical differences.

It's about America and Israel trying to wretch that control out of Putin's hands, and he won't give it up.

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Excellent new. Hopefully this puts an end to any idea of a no-fly zone etc:

First S-300 air defense systems already in Syria – Assad

http://rt.com/news/air-defense-syria-assad-993/

Probably not: Russia's S300 rockets are not a game-changer for Syria

Syria’s armed forces will need at least six months to make them operational. You cannot get anti-aircraft missiles up and running overnight ....... I would guess that some people will be doing their best to make it difficult for Syria to make the S300 operational.

Second, the S300 is not an impenetrable shield. If America decides to impose a no-fly zone over Syria, its air force will be able to disable this type of defence system just as it would have destroyed any other. The S300 might impose a marginal increase in the risks and costs of a no-fly zone, but not enough to be a “game-changer”.

Finally, the Russian sale has been presented as retaliation for the lifting of the European Union arms embargo. In fact, Russia’s contract to export the S300 to Syria was signed long before the EU’s decision.

But the US has no obvious intention to impose a NFZ and no-body else would try without them.

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Some comments on the S300:

Robert Hewson, editor of IHS Jane's Air-Launched Weapons, said it was plausible that some parts of the S-300s had already arrived in Syria. "The whole thing is a collection of vehicles. You have a launcher, radar and a command and control vehicle. You need all of that working together." He described the system as formidable and respected by western military planners: "If your plan is to waltz into Syrian airspace and start bombing things this is a big wrinkle." Hewson also said the Russians would inevitably supply military advisers who would work closely with the Syrian military and train them how to use the system: "There is a big danger that if you blow the SA-300 up you will kill a lot of Russians. I don't think the Israelis want to do that".

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More Russian forces being positioned:

Russian nuke subs to patrol southern seas for first time since Soviet era

Russia is planning to deploy nuclear ballistic missile submarines to the southern seas for the first time since a 20-year break that followed the collapse of the USSR

A Borei-class undersea boat is a state-of-the-art 170-meter long vessel which is capable of carrying 16 Bulava SLBMs, has a crew of 107, including 55 officers, can dive to a depth of 450 meters and has a submerged speed of about 29 knots (54 km/h). The sub can spend up to three months in autonomous navigation and, thanks to the latest achievements in the reduction of noise, it is almost silent compared to previous generations of submarines.

http://rt.com/news/submarines-nuclear-partol-seas-116/

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More Russian forces being positioned:

Russian nuke subs to patrol southern seas for first time since Soviet era

Russia is planning to deploy nuclear ballistic missile submarines to the southern seas for the first time since a 20-year break that followed the collapse of the USSR

A Borei-class undersea boat is a state-of-the-art 170-meter long vessel which is capable of carrying 16 Bulava SLBMs, has a crew of 107, including 55 officers, can dive to a depth of 450 meters and has a submerged speed of about 29 knots (54 km/h). The sub can spend up to three months in autonomous navigation and, thanks to the latest achievements in the reduction of noise, it is almost silent compared to previous generations of submarines.

http://rt.com/news/submarines-nuclear-partol-seas-116/

Well if things become strained between us & the Russians, over such things as their propping up a corrupt and murderous regime in Syria, we can still appeal to their better nature and point to the ethical example the west has set in the post cold-war world.

Oh wait, I think we just lost the moral high ground. And hills aren't easy to recapture once you have lost them... :huh:

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Some comments on the S300:

Robert Hewson, editor of IHS Jane's Air-Launched Weapons, said it was plausible that some parts of the S-300s had already arrived in Syria. "The whole thing is a collection of vehicles. You have a launcher, radar and a command and control vehicle. You need all of that working together." He described the system as formidable and respected by western military planners: "If your plan is to waltz into Syrian airspace and start bombing things this is a big wrinkle." Hewson also said the Russians would inevitably supply military advisers who would work closely with the Syrian military and train them how to use the system: "There is a big danger that if you blow the SA-300 up you will kill a lot of Russians. I don't think the Israelis want to do that".

Some people just love all this stuff don't they. If we do ever see a major war again it will probably be because of idiots like this who think it will be like the military equivalent of the Horse of the Year show.

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More Russian forces being positioned:

Russian nuke subs to patrol southern seas for first time since Soviet era

Russia is planning to deploy nuclear ballistic missile submarines to the southern seas for the first time since a 20-year break that followed the collapse of the USSR

A Borei-class undersea boat is a state-of-the-art 170-meter long vessel which is capable of carrying 16 Bulava SLBMs, has a crew of 107, including 55 officers, can dive to a depth of 450 meters and has a submerged speed of about 29 knots (54 km/h). The sub can spend up to three months in autonomous navigation and, thanks to the latest achievements in the reduction of noise, it is almost silent compared to previous generations of submarines.

http://rt.com/news/submarines-nuclear-partol-seas-116/

Lots of chiefs in that crew! More than 1 officer per enlisted man.

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