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Next door neighbour has had their 2-bedder on the market for couple of months, for the past 6 months he's been doing a lot of internal work to get it looking all spic n span.

They are a right f*cking pair of busy-bodies, always quick to say they will phone the council about this and that (but don't), complain about noise, moan about people's parking/bins being left out. The woman is a real 'hyacinth bucket' and thinks she's something she isn't. They have the classic aspirational lifestyle but are both thick as pig shit.

The houses are modern terraces in an area that will keep prices high as there will be boomers down-sizing. They've apparently had about 10 viewings, no offers.

The other day get a knock on the door and he says that they've had an offer but the sale fell through and apparently it's due to the noise from our pipes. Apparently I've cost him 150-160k. The noise from our pipes has been going on for 6 months and 'something needs to be done'. The viewing last week fell through due to the noise apparently (lies of course as we were in on that viewing and peering through the window at the boomers. No noise from our pipes! Also it may have been due to the boomers viewing the house seeing the other neighbour side's dog running up to them and maybe they weren't impressed with the neighbours boyfriend turning up in his beanie hat/shorts/earphones)

Also can we 'sort out our garden' - his words.

I just look at him with a neutral expression. I'm in no mood to be lectured by this guy so just say well we've done what we can and that's that.

He then says that something needs to give and he'll go and see a solicitor.

At this point I think 'OK - can either tell him to f*ck off' or just .... smile at him bemused, shake my head and say 'pffff', then close the door. Which I did. Cheeky f*cker.

OK the issue of the pipes:

- occasionally there is like a 'water knock' noise from the pipes when the taps are on full. e.g. kitchen or bathroom taps, sometimes also when the shower is first put on. There is a constant leak from the toilet cistern into the bowl - however we are absolutely broke atm (I'm not working atm) and cannot afford any work to be done.

I can drain the tank (turning off the water inlet) and then re-fill the tank and bleed the radiators to remove as much trapped air as possible. Any noise lasts for about 10-20 seconds. There is no noise from the heating system, its purely from the taps so not before 6am/after 11pm etc.

There is nothing else, we don't play loud music/have the telly on full blast (they used to bang on the wall about 10pm years ago when me and mrs jfk were watching films on telly!).

They have a dog which they got a few months ago - this creature actually causes US disturbances! They put the dog out in the back garden of an evening - it just barks and barks. The other night about 8pm it woke up mrs jfk and our 5 year old daughter. Mrs jfk went to bed early as she's sometimes up v.early and in work for 7/7.30am. She went downstairs and banged on our living room wall (!).

The dog barks at anything, jumps up against the fence etc.

... so last night I filled the local council online form for complaining about dog noise. I also downloaded some of the council 'quite dogs equals happy neighbours' advice leaflets which I'm considering printing off and popping through their letterbox should the need arise.

Our noise does not constitute 'statutory noise' from the council website - as it's normal domestic noise. I'm waiting for the log form to come through from the council as I'm going to keep a log of all their dog noise and submit a noise complaint.

This guy is a total spudhead - he could have been nice but no, he tries to basically threaten me on our doorstep 'I'll have to see a solicitor' - go on then you pr1ck. I'll start off some correspondence which will cost you £50 a letter hahahahahahaha.

Thoughts?

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The instant he makes a formal complaint via the council or a solicitor is the instant his house becomes more unsellable. He has to say in the vendor questionnaire whether he has ever had any issues with neighbour noise, and if he lies on that the purchaser can sue him later. You might want to point that out to him, with a smile on your face.

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He technically has a neighbour dispute which he needs to declare to buyers. If he's put anything to the council then it's officially a neighbour dispute.

Tell him you need some money to do the work and you don't have any.

Is it water hammer you have?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=knocking+in+pipes+after+flushing+toilet&rlz=1C1CHNU_enGB340GB340&aq=1&oq=knocking+in+pipes&aqs=chrome.2.57j0l3.4770j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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The instant he makes a formal complaint via the council or a solicitor is the instant his house becomes more unsellable. He has to say in the vendor questionnaire whether he has ever had any issues with neighbour noise, and if he lies on that the purchaser can sue him later. You might want to point that out to him, with a smile on your face.

yup totally aware of that - that's why I just wrly smiled and closed the door. He really is f*cking stupid.

... it's all unnecessary as we can't stand them and just want them to move!

... thinking about getting a load of garden gnomes / socialist worker posters to stick in the window

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He technically has a neighbour dispute which he needs to declare to buyers. If he's put anything to the council then it's officially a neighbour dispute.

Tell him you need some money to do the work and you don't have any.

Is it water hammer you have?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=knocking+in+pipes+after+flushing+toilet&rlz=1C1CHNU_enGB340GB340&aq=1&oq=knocking+in+pipes&aqs=chrome.2.57j0l3.4770j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Yeah it's similar to that, we can get it fixed but we are dirt poor atm. Planning on getting the kitchen re-jigged around, combi boiler, bathroom sorted and pipes sorted.

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Tell them to pi$$ off and don't get stressed about them.

:)

... that's usually my style :)

... however, it's more fun to just ignore him/smile/shake my head and mutter under my breath to wind him up

... hopefully I can tell him to get off our property if he tries knocking on the door again

... maybe the house isn't selling because the bins are in the back garden and the back garden has loads of dog pi$$ burns all over it now?? Just a thought...

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Don't complain about your neighbours........their problem not yours, chill....hang some extra large y fronts out on the line to dry, give them something to look at. ;)

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:)

... that's usually my style :)

... however, it's more fun to just ignore him/smile/shake my head and mutter under my breath to wind him up

... hopefully I can tell him to get off our property if he tries knocking on the door again

... maybe the house isn't selling because the bins are in the back garden and the back garden has loads of dog pi$$ burns all over it now?? Just a thought...

Wind them up properly then. I'm sure you be able to think of something next time they have a viewing ;)

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a few old sofa's and some beer cans on the front lawn mrs jfk suggested :)

... as it's private land there's not much you can neighbour!

*gives the finger*

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I would not tell him ... let him create the formal dispute via a written complaint and then tell him.

Prob is jfk desperately wants them to move. Next buyer that comes along might not be so keen if they see a neighbour dispute come up in the paperwork. I'd prob tell the neighbours (with a smile) as a hint to get out of my face and MOVE.

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There is a constant leak from the toilet cistern into the bowl - however we are absolutely broke atm (I'm not working atm) and cannot afford any work to be done.

Not sure it's the same problem but I had a toilet that was dripping outside from the overflow pipe because it was filling up too much.

Can you bend the arm that the ball thing is on or put something underneath it to prop it up higher?

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Bottom line is, you can't sell a house that stinks of dog.

Sarah's right - the last thing they want to do is complain officially although of course it could harm your chances of selling in future for the same reason.

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Yeah it's similar to that, we can get it fixed but we are dirt poor atm. Planning on getting the kitchen re-jigged around, combi boiler, bathroom sorted and pipes sorted.

We used to have this. It's not water hammer, it's a dodgy floating valve in your tank. That's why you only get the noise when you first open the taps - when the valve is in a particular position as the tank starts to empty, it vibrates at the resonant frequency of your pipes.

The valve itself costs about £3, no idea how much it costs for a plumber to fix it as we were renting when we got ours fixed.

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This forum is great for problems that would stress Solomon! So - you WANT them to move but they are arses so you also WANT them to wind their neck in.

I'd go all out and put a MASSIVE poster in your window saying "Rehabilitation Centre"

that should do it. :lol:

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We used to have this. It's not water hammer, it's a dodgy floating valve in your tank. That's why you only get the noise when you first open the taps - when the valve is in a particular position as the tank starts to empty, it vibrates at the resonant frequency of your pipes.

The valve itself costs about £3, no idea how much it costs for a plumber to fix it as we were renting when we got ours fixed.

Best make sure the valve float is OK first, and has not sprung a leak.

Fixing these valves is a doddle - you can buy a kit of washers at any DIY shop. The only think you need to determine is if it is a high pressure (mains) or low pressure (from tank) valve. If it is the inlet to the cold water tank it will inevitabley be high pressure; the low presure ones are used in secondary tanks and lav cisterns.

If you dont fancy fiddling around with the valve parts, you can replace the whole valve assemly )might be best if the thing is calcified.

You can p*** off your neighbour by doing the repairs, very noisily, during the next viewing. Might be counterproductive though.

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Bottom line is, you can't sell a house that stinks of dog.

My first thought too. Dogs are lovely and all, but they have a distinct odour which owners seem to be immune to.

I'd never buy a place with lots of cats either. I rented a place which had obviously had a long haired white cat in it. Took months to get rid of the hairs.

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The cistern you can fix for about a tenner. It's most likely the inlet valve that has failed. It's failing to shut off and thus overfilling the cistern to the point where it drains into the overflow into the toilet bowl.

I fixed mine last week £10.99 from Wickes. The only tools you'll need are a flat bladed screwdriver and a large spanner. The screwdriver is for turning the isolation valve off. This should be located close to where the mains pipe goes to the cistern. If there is not one fitted then just turn the water off at the stop valve, wherever that is in your house. The spanner is to undo the nut which screws onto the plastic thread on the end of the inlet valve. If your cistern is bottom entry (ooh err saucy!) then it might be a faff to access it. Being a contortionist will help. When putting the new valve on tighten the nut by hand and then use the spanner to go half a turn more. Job done. No need for a plumber and £100 saved.

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Next door neighbour has had their 2-bedder on the market for couple of months, for the past 6 months he's been doing a lot of internal work to get it looking all spic n span.

They are a right f*cking pair of busy-bodies, always quick to say they will phone the council about this and that (but don't), complain about noise, moan about people's parking/bins being left out. The woman is a real 'hyacinth bucket' and thinks she's something she isn't. They have the classic aspiratiotnal lifestyle but are both thick as pig shit.

The houses are modern terraces in an area that will keep prices high as there will be boomers down-sizing. They've apparently had about 10 viewings, no offers.

The other day get a knock on the door and he says that they've had an offer but the sale fell through and apparently it's due to the noise from our pipes. Apparently I've cost him 150-160k. The noise from our pipes has been going on for 6 months and 'something needs to be done'. The viewing last week fell through due to the noise apparently (lies of course as we were in on that viewing and peering through the window at the boomers. No noise from our pipes! Also it may have been due to the boomers viewing the house seeing the other neighbour side's dog running up to them and maybe they weren't impressed with the neighbours boyfriend turning up in his beanie hat/shorts/earphones)

Also can we 'sort out our garden' - his words.

I just look at him with a neutral expression. I'm in no mood to be lectured by this guy so just say well we've done what we can and that's that.

He then says that something needs to give and he'll go and see a solicitor.

At this point I think 'OK - can either tell him to f*ck off' or just .... smile at him bemused, shake my head and say 'pffff', then close the door. Which I did. Cheeky f*cker.

OK the issue of the pipes:

- occasionally there is like a 'water knock' noise from the pipes when the taps are on full. e.g. kitchen or bathroom taps, sometimes also when the shower is first put on. There is a constant leak from the toilet cistern into the bowl - however we are absolutely broke atm (I'm not working atm) and cannot afford any work to be done.

I can drain the tank (turning off the water inlet) and then re-fill the tank and bleed the radiators to remove as much trapped air as possible. Any noise lasts for about 10-20 seconds. There is no noise from the heating system, its purely from the taps so not before 6am/after 11pm etc.

There is nothing else, we don't play loud music/have the telly on full blast (they used to bang on the wall about 10pm years ago when me and mrs jfk were watching films on telly!).

They have a dog which they got a few months ago - this creature actually causes US disturbances! They put the dog out in the back garden of an evening - it just barks and barks. The other night about 8pm it woke up mrs jfk and our 5 year old daughter. Mrs jfk went to bed early as she's sometimes up v.early and in work for 7/7.30am. She went downstairs and banged on our living room wall (!).

The dog barks at anything, jumps up against the fence etc.

... so last night I filled the local council online form for complaining about dog noise. I also downloaded some of the council 'quite dogs equals happy neighbours' advice leaflets which I'm considering printing off and popping through their letterbox should the need arise.

Our noise does not constitute 'statutory noise' from the council website - as it's normal domestic noise. I'm waiting for the log form to come through from the council as I'm going to keep a log of all their dog noise and submit a noise complaint.

This guy is a total spudhead - he could have been nice but no, he tries to basically threaten me on our doorstep 'I'll have to see a solicitor' - go on then you pr1ck. I'll start off some correspondence which will cost you £50 a letter hahahahahahaha.

Thoughts?

Amazingly you've managed to make me sympathise with your neighbour.

My advice: if you ever find yourself in court, do NOT under any circumstances elect to defend yourself.

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He technically has a neighbour dispute which he needs to declare to buyers. If he's put anything to the council then it's officially a neighbour dispute.

We already have from the OP:

... so last night I filled the local council online form for complaining about dog noise.

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It's most likely the inlet valve that has failed. It's failing to shut off and thus overfilling the cistern to the point where it drains into the overflow into the toilet bowl. I fixed mine last week £10.99 from Wickes. ~ No need for a plumber and £100 saved.

Did the same repair for a relative last Autumn to fix a very slow filling cistern. The new inlet valve was £10-something from a plumbers merchant. American made and packaging made fuss over its good quality with a brass thread. It also came with an optional-to-fit small spiral valve, said to help control 'hammer' sounds in areas of high-water pressure. The broken inlet value I removed had a plastic thread, and just looked cheap made, even though I know they paid quite a bit for the bathroom just a few years earlier; place that's regularly on radio and in local papers but, imo, selling rubbish quality at premium prices. Their 3 year old expensive no-name single lever mono-mixer basin tap from the same place recently sprung a leak from the cold water flexi-tail of the tap! They noticed it when water came dripping to the room below. Isolated it for them for the moment, so they just getting by with hot water from the mixer tap.

Had never attempted such a repair before re the inlet valve. Took a while to work out how to get the cistern lid off. It's push-button operated, and realised you have to just keep turning it anticlockwise until that button threads out and then can remove the lid. Apparently sometimes the push-buttons can go faulty. Someone told me how they rang for a plumber as their toilet was slow fill water hissing from the inlet valve, and he charged them £60. All the plumber did was remove the button and clean it under the tap of some calcified stuff and particles of dirt, and it all was working again, although doubt that would work with jfk's as it's actually overflowing.

The neighbour here sounds like a real idiot. I'd just be polite and play dumb with him. Doubt he'll instruct a solicitor to send a letter, and doesn't seem to have a case anyway. Let him stress out about selling his house.

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Everyone hates everyone. I say knock all the homes down everywhere, and redesign each home as a 3-4 bed detached home with at least 100ft distance from the next house. Elect me please!

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Throw some unwrapped oxo cubes over the fence the next time it rains. They dissolve into the ground and the smell will make the dog go berserk and dig up the whole garden.

That won't help their sale. :P

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