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Pc Sales Worldwide Have Tumbled, Data From Idc Shows

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Global sales of PCs fell 14% in the first three months of the year, the biggest fall since research firm IDC started tracking the industry in 1994.

IDC said 76.3 million units were shipped, a figure that underlines the appeal of tablets and smartphones as alternatives to PCs.

The firm said Microsoft's latest version of Windows had failed to revitalise the industry.

Similar analysis by another research firm, Gartner, found a fall of 11.2%.

The problem is people are moving away from the traditional PC, maybe in 10 years the home PC as it now will be a thing of the past.

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The real reason why PC sales are tumbling is because there is no reason to upgrade, any PC from the last 5-6 years is still fast enough for any current software (at least for the software that most people use).

If anything, adding a bit of RAM or replacing the hard disk with a SSD will provide a much bigger performance boost than buying a new PC.

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The desktop PC has really just been miniaturised. The technology has finally caught up with the dream. It was always inevitable, just the technology was never up to the job before. It seems we are going to even smaller wearable devices as soon as the technology is ready.

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The problem is people are moving away from the traditional PC, maybe in 10 years the home PC as it now will be a thing of the past.

Perfect storm of Fekked up by Bulmer (cos he dont listen to anyone else) MS software that loads hate for pcs (even with Win 8.0 priced at £49)

and the World Wide recession.

Also all the vast companies with 10's thousands pc's have stopped upgrading from Win XP to Win 7

By the way get yer new TV/Monitor as soon as war kicks off in Korea if you are putting off a purchase

- they will probably triple in price overnight then 'balistic' possibly run out as long as any conflict lasts

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The problem is people are moving away from the traditional PC, maybe in 10 years the home PC as it now will be a thing of the past.

Its hardly a "problem", there are two obvious trends.

1) people are moving to new devices (phones and tablets)

2) the one that doesn't get talked about much, that most computer usage now is as an internet terminal. An old PC will do this job just as well as a new one, why bother "upgrading" same issue m$ have with XP which is also perfectly good for that purpose.

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The real reason why PC sales are tumbling is because there is no reason to upgrade, any PC from the last 5-6 years is still fast enough for any current software (at least for the software that most people use).

If anything, adding a bit of RAM or replacing the hard disk with a SSD will provide a much bigger performance boost than buying a new PC.

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My desktop PC is 8 years old, my laptop PC is 6 years old, hell even my tablet PC is 2 years old.

Methinks planned obsolesence went wrong somewhere along the line.

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The problem is people are moving away from the traditional PC, maybe in 10 years the home PC as it now will be a thing of the past.

Moving away from the PC, or moving away from Windows?

And do laptops count as "traditional PCs" or not? The article is not clear.

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The real reason why PC sales are tumbling is because there is no reason to upgrade, any PC from the last 5-6 years is still fast enough for any current software (at least for the software that most people use).

Thats generally true other than for specialist uses like gaming. In theory you should be able to to buy an entry level desktop PC for surfing and office apps for 100 quid - a "net station" i.e. the desktop equivalent of a netbook but it seems theres a concerted effort by manufacturers to commoditise desktop PCs in this way.

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Thats generally true other than for specialist uses like gaming. In theory you should be able to to buy an entry level desktop PC for surfing and office apps for 100 quid - a "net station" i.e. the desktop equivalent of a netbook but it seems theres a concerted effort by manufacturers not to commoditise desktop PCs in this way.

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Nowadays I only use my PC for,

1 Internet

2 Email

3 Storing photographs.

4 Word processing

5 Keeping financial accounts

Do may others do the same?

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I use my PC solely for shooting people. I use my iphone for everything else.

Tempted by a tablet but I spent 400 quid on a car seat so isn't going to happen anytime soon (it's rearward facing and swivels - 90 degrees to the sides - or 180 degrees if you want it forward facing). Amazing.

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2) the one that doesn't get talked about much, that most computer usage now is as an internet terminal.

Nope. PC gaming is going through a massive resurgence. In 2012 the value of the PC games industry was some $16 billion dollars. I've not got the recent figures but they are going up.

You need a decent, modern PC to get the best out of the latest games. There will always be a market there.

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The real reason why PC sales are tumbling is because there is no reason to upgrade, any PC from the last 5-6 years is still fast enough for any current software (at least for the software that most people use).

Pretty much.

Basically it comes under the usual category of "Sales of {fill in consumer item} fall".

The reason is this: People already have enough shit. They don't need to buy any more. The things they have work and the models that replace them are not better. This applies to PC, smartphones, cars, washing machines, LCD TVs, DVD players, Freeview boxes, sat-navs... the list is endless.

Many products have reached saturation and maturity... people are happy to replace products when they fail rather than when the next model comes out. They've filled their houses with tat, most of which they don't need and wont use. Like a man after a huge 3 course meal, they feel full. They look around them and think "I can't think of anything else I really want."

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Nope. PC gaming is going through a massive resurgence. In 2012 the value of the PC games industry was some $16 billion dollars. I've not got the recent figures but they are going up.

You need a decent, modern PC to get the best out of the latest games. There will always be a market there.

PC gaming as a portion of the PC market is probably 5% or less.

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PC gaming as a portion of the PC market is probably 5% or less.

But it will always exist and there's a lot of money to be made $20 billion yearly at least (from the games - the PC enthusiast/gamer hardware also continues to be made and purchased).

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Nowadays I only use my PC for,

1 Internet

2 Email

3 Storing photographs.

4 Word processing

5 Keeping financial accounts

Do may others do the same?

You could do all that on a tablet or something like a Chromebook. Just use a cloud based picture storage service so as not to need large amounts of local storage for your photos.

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You could do all that on a tablet or something like a Chromebook. Just use a cloud based picture storage service so as not to need large amounts of local storage for your photos.

I think I'd prefer not to put all of my content in the hands of a company which has been around for less than 20 years.

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I reckon PC sales will stabilise again in the next year or two, once all those who use a PC primarily for data consumption over the internet have finished switching to tablets and smartphones. There will continue to be a market for data creators, who need a big screen and a proper keyboard, and gamers, who need a big screen and lots of processing power.

I think laptops will be the main victims, playing piggy-in-the-middle between full-size PCs and tablets/smartphones and unable to compete properly with either. I've always used one as a compromise between power and mobility, but now they make little sense. Better to buy a full-size PC for heavy duty work and a tablet/smartphone for rapid/mobile data access. Cloud services make it far easier to keep data in synch than previously.

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. Cloud services make it far easier to keep data in synch than previously.

As the authorities in foreign countries usa computer farms (farming humans- Orwellian) can track everything you are doing once using this sytem - even stealing business ideas for use in USA/copyrighting

They can also destroy every trace of your life in one instant - don't fall into the CLOUD trap!

Its taken from The Bible "coming with clouds"

- so is it's use for Satanic purposes?

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Nope. PC gaming is going through a massive resurgence. In 2012 the value of the PC games industry was some $16 billion dollars. I've not got the recent figures but they are going up.

You need a decent, modern PC to get the best out of the latest games. There will always be a market there.

Unfortnately the vast majority of gamers don't buy PC's - they build them from components. Not sure if this is covered in the figures.

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Unfortnately the vast majority of gamers don't buy PC's - they build them from components. Not sure if this is covered in the figures.

Yes but it's a large market. And the new consoles are also effectively gaming PCs so the component makers will have plenty to go on.

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Speaking as pc loving user. I think it may be more to do with windows 8 being hard to use on desktop pc.

I know I had copy of vista on day of release and 2 copiers of windows 7 on day of release but windows 8 is just yuk.

maybe windows 9 will be better.

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AFAIK, Currys / PC World sold 1 million Tablets in December - most sales were not the Surface - that seems to be a flop (as so is Win 8)...this has driven traditional Windowites away from Microsoft.,...As with gaming (if I was still into it), the hassle of spending a large amount upgrading your PC rig every 18 months or so, vs a PS3, which could last you 5 years plus, which is a fraction of the cost...most of the PC games also come out on consoles too...

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PC rig every 18 months or so, vs a PS3, which could last you 5 years plus, which is a fraction of the cost...most of the PC games also come out on consoles too...

Modern PC games at high resolution make console titles look like a joke. The two aren't comparable. And that's before you get into the mouse/kb/controller debate (which isn't a debate as mouse/kb will always be better than controller for FPS games).

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