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How Much Is The Security Operation Going To Cost For London With Thatchers Funeral

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/disunited-in-mourning-police-fear-thatcher-funeral-may-turn-into-security-nightmare-8566452.html

Police officers are monitoring social media, internet forums and BlackBerry messaging networks in the expectation that Margaret Thatcher's funeral procession next Wednesday will be targeted by protesters.

The possibility of demonstrations during the funeral has raised concerns that police may adopt the controversial tactic of making pre-emptive arrests.

Plans appear to be under way for different groups to demonstrate during the funeral, and to hold celebrations around the country on the same day.

Police concerns have been fuelled by the impromptu street parties which broke out on Monday evening in Leeds, Bristol, Brixton, Liverpool and Glasgow – some of which resulted in arrests after clashes with officers.

Police and security-service planning for Baroness Thatcher's funeral has been under way for three and a half years. Officers will probably be required to line the route from the Houses of Parliament to St Paul's Cathedral to make sure that the cortège is not stopped.

The protests present a logistical headache for the Metropolitan Police, whose officers will have to make sure the procession is not disrupted while respecting the public's right to voice an opinion on one of Britain's most divisive politicians.

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He believed protests would only turn violent if the police tried to stop people voicing their opinion. "It would be unwise of the police to come down hard," he said. "Even a heavy police presence will provoke a reaction."

The legislation that allows for pre-emptive arrests is narrow and human rights lawyers have warned against any pre-funeral sweeps.

Michael Oswald, from Bhatt Murphy solicitors, which represented 15 people who were arrested during the Royal Wedding, said: "There must be a concern that the events that took place in Bristol and Brixton will be used by the police to justify the kind of tactics that were seen in the run-up to and during the Royal Wedding.

"Whatever one thinks about the rights and wrongs of protesting during a funeral, the law protects people's freedom to voice their opinions publicly in a peaceful manner."

How much is this going to cost the country at a time of austerity?

It's clear the whole funeral is going to turn into a huge circus and it would appear that Thatcher even realised this, yet we have morons in charge who clearly want to make a point.

So the police rather than catching criminals are going to be having a huge punch up with anarchists. I'm guessing this time the police are the ones who are going to have a problem as they won't have enough officers to police the route and deal with the protests.

This has got to be one of the most stupidest decisions ever made. The family must be very egotistical to want to go ahead with this, if it was me I'd just do a quiet family funeral and ask the Queen etc... not to turn up. No one is going to come out of this well.

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Agreed, but the fault lies with the moron protesters not with the desire to give a great leader the send-off she more than deserves.

Thanks for the balanced assesment, giving due consideration to the variety of opinions and experiences from different people.

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Agreed, but the fault lies with the moron protesters not with the desire to give a great leader the send-off she more than deserves.

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Not sure about the "great leader" bit, but all those "protesting" against Maggie should have done so when she was in number 10; protesting now just comes across as Sore Losers.

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.......the fault lies with the moron protesters not with the desire to give a great leader the send-off she more than deserves.

Absolutely agree.

We must spend whatever is necessary to stop the militant lefties ruining the day, if only on a point of principle.

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Yes, the more I see the reactions (I heard people at work talking about parties kicking off in some of the areas around Edinburgh devastated by her policies) the more I think it will get out of hand around her funeral. She is going to go out to one last big riot I think.

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As Ken Loach said, we should privatise the whole thing and give it to the cheapest tender. It's what she would have wanted.

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Absolutely agree.

We must spend whatever is necessary to stop the militant lefties ruining the day, if only on a point of principle.

Perhaps we can get the BNP to provide security?

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Genuine question.

Would it be fair to say that the modern model of `protest' - i.e. that seen in the 1981 riots, G10 protests, student loan protests, poll tax riots and dealt with by kettling etc, started during MT's premiership? In the decades prior, there were a lot of marches and demos, but not many turned violent, at least according to my fading memory.

And a speculative question; Do you think there are more people who would make their way to the procession because they are anti MT or because they are pro MT? I suspect the former and if I'm right she could be seen off by one last riot for old times' sake.

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Perhaps we can get the BNP to provide security?

A quick Google suggests that they hate Thatcher on account of her support for free trade with other countries.

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Genuine question.

Would it be fair to say that the modern model of `protest' - i.e. that seen in the 1981 riots, G10 protests, student loan protests, poll tax riots and dealt with by kettling etc, started during MT's premiership? In the decades prior, there were a lot of marches and demos, but not many turned violent, at least according to my fading memory.

Maybe in this country.

But if you look abroad - no further than France, actually - you'll find that violent protests are nothing new.

And a speculative question; Do you think there are more people who would make their way to the procession because they are anti MT or because they are pro MT? I suspect the former and if I'm right she could be seen off by one last riot for old times' sake.

I'm hoping that it doesn't happen, but I fear that it will.

I want Labour to win the next GE and crash this country hard.

But the sight of thousands of people rioting and spitting at Thatcher's coffin would induce revulsion in most people and guarantee a Tory win at the next GE.

Bugger.

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That approach didn't work out too well for The Stones at Altamont.

One less militant leftie, what's the problem? Rather fitting for Thatchers funeral I would have thought.....

Edit: It's going to be a circus, and much as I detested the woman for what she did to my area of Scotland, it's no way to treat a cadaver. I know it's going to be a circus, you know it's going to be a circus and I strongly suspect the organiser's know it's going to be a circus. The last revenge of the 'men in grey suits'?

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Thanks. Now Google facetious ;)

You'll forgive me if I'm finding it harder and harder to separate the facetious from the torrents of bull**** that have overwhelmed forums and the MSM over the last few days :)

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You'll forgive me if I'm finding it harder and harder to separate the facetious from the torrents of bull**** that have overwhelmed forums and the MSM over the last few days :)

Of course, I understand your frustration......

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-time-margaret-thatchers-funeral-1824369

How much is it going to cost?

The funeral is expected to cost up to £10million with the taxpayer bearing the brunt of the costs. It has been confirmed a "contribution" to the cost of the funeral will be made from Lady Thatcher's estate. The official cost to the public purse will be released after the service has taken place.

The security operation alone is set to cost £5million. Police across the capital have been ordered to cancel any leave they had planned for Operation True Blue next ­Wednesday.

There could be more than 4,000 officers and 2,000 troops lining the route. Hundreds of specialist police will be working on counter-terrorism measures, with others carefully monitoring CCTV cameras for trouble spots.

The Mirror goes with £10m.

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I thought public expenditure for this type of event had to be approved by Parliament so I am wondering quite what mechanism Cameron is using to justify this largesse.

Personally I find all the military trappings are a bit of an embarrassment. I know Thatcher led the country to victory in the Falklands conflict but it hardly ranks alongside the Napoleonic Wars or the two World Wars as a great national struggle against a fearsome enemy. Have we become so degraded as a nation that we now regard duffing up a tinpot Argentine dictatorship as an equal achievement to Pitt the Younger facing down Napoleon or Churchill refusing to bow down to Hitler ? The fact that a conflict that would have barely rated a mention in the headlines two hundred years ago is now seen as some sort of pinnacle of national pride is in itself a sad comment on our decline.

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