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Sorry, but it's a Daily Wail link.

Executive summary: Mother violently killed by ex, who was subsequently convicted of manslaughter. They lived in a rented house, and the LL threatened to sue the deceased's estate (i.e. their children) for the cost of cleaning up the house and alleged blight on future rental income arising from its notoriety. They agreed to hand over their entire inheritance in exchange for the legal action being dropped.

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That's almost unbelievable. Be careful where you get stabbed otherwise you could get a hefty bill for not keeping your blood under control.

Unfortunately in such circumstances these costs occur whether the property is privately owned or not. I can't see a logical reason why the landlord should be expected to pay for the cleanup.

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They do it in Japan, But is suicide normally. Not that it makes it right

Japanese are a superstitious bunch. You have to declare it if anyone has ever committed suicide in an apartment when renting or selling - the ghost will be there.

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The estate (or preferably the assets of the guilty party) should pay for the cost of cleaning up but no more IMO. I'm actually more shocked that the guilty party only served 4 and a half years for manslaughter.

Getting in specialist cleaners after a murder is very expensive. Shotguns being discharged in the mouth for example are very messy (have seen the results of that a few times).

Charging the estate for clean up costs would be within the bounds of reasonableness but for blight - well thats just opportunism at a very vulnerable time for the victims family.

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Why have you posted these details?

We are constantly told that landlordism is a business. Especially when it comes to tax. How is this different from publishing the head office address of Vodafone? Its public domain information.

Someone might wish to write a polite letter to this "business" regarding their apparent sharp practice. Or avoid them if they have further properties.

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Why have you posted these details?

wot, these publicly available details?

The landlord was entitled to no compo...the kids were too stupid to resist.

Going to court and making your case costs the bus fair to get there for the defendent.

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What a complete and utter scumlord!

Say if this husband murdered his wife by burning her and the house to the ground? Should the kids cover the cost of building a new house? I'm sorry, but these costs are covered by the landlords insurance and seeing they went this far to get the clean up costs, sounds like they might not have had it.

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Why have you posted these details?

Why shouldn't he? Landlords are a BUSINESS. Far too many operate anonymously and hide behind letting agents.

I tried to investigate a private landlord, to discover his property portfolio. Land Reg wouldn't help unless they register as a "company" which they rarely do. As such they are considered "private individuals" even if they are raking in thousands in rent every month and control multi million pound portfolio's. Madness!

No other business is really allowed to do this.

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What a complete and utter scumlord!

Say if this husband murdered his wife by burning her and the house to the ground? Should the kids cover the cost of building a new house? I'm sorry, but these costs are covered by the landlords insurance and seeing they went this far to get the clean up costs, sounds like they might not have had it.

I am sorry and know i will get flamed for this but as a renter would you want to rent or let alone buy a house someone had been murdered in.

its not like the house is a little anonymous two up two down.

With the internet and local gossip bad news hangs around forever.

A friend of mine bought a lovely manor house nominally worth a couple of million, for £400k because the previous occupant committed suicide by gassing themselves in the cellar. No one would touch it for ten years.

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I am sorry and know i will get flamed for this but as a renter would you want to rent or let alone buy a house someone had been murdered in.

its not like the house is a little anonymous two up two down.

With the internet and local gossip bad news hangs around forever.

A friend of mine bought a lovely manor house nominally worth a couple of million, for £400k because the previous occupant committed suicide by gassing themselves in the cellar. No one would touch it for ten years.

How is that the fault of the kids? This man is basically suing the kids because their mother got murdered. Nasty piece of work.

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How is that the fault of the kids? This man is basically suing the kids because their mother got murdered. Nasty piece of work.

It would seem more logical to be suing the perpetrator for destroying the value of their building rather than the victim's relatives.

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I am sorry and know i will get flamed for this but as a renter would you want to rent or let alone buy a house someone had been murdered in.

its not like the house is a little anonymous two up two down.

With the internet and local gossip bad news hangs around forever.

A friend of mine bought a lovely manor house nominally worth a couple of million, for £400k because the previous occupant committed suicide by gassing themselves in the cellar. No one would touch it for ten years.

I see....so the risk of a landlord passes to the kids...well, not the kids, the estate of the deceased.....

In this case the landlord would be correct to sue the estate for work over and above the value of the deposit and arrears....however, not sure reputation is covered in the AST nor ae future earnings.

Actually, the kids losses are a red herring....as if the ESTATE belonged to them before settlement.

Still, disputing the court case would have cost them the bus fair in....but they probably wanted whatever money was left NOW, and a case would delay things....Of course, they may have wanted nothing to do with any of it and put the memory of their parents to rest.

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I see....so the risk of a landlord passes to the kids...well, not the kids, the estate of the deceased.....

In this case the landlord would be correct to sue the estate for work over and above the value of the deposit and arrears....however, not sure reputation is covered in the AST nor ae future earnings.

Actually, the kids losses are a red herring....as if the ESTATE belonged to them before settlement.

Still, disputing the court case would have cost them the bus fair in....but they probably wanted whatever money was left NOW, and a case would delay things....Of course, they may have wanted nothing to do with any of it and put the memory of their parents to rest.

Agreed its not very nice and the landlord should have gone after the perpetrator, but if the perp has no money if the victim and the perp were joint tenants.

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I am sorry and know i will get flamed for this but as a renter would you want to rent or let alone buy a house someone had been murdered in.

its not like the house is a little anonymous two up two down.

With the internet and local gossip bad news hangs around forever.

A friend of mine bought a lovely manor house nominally worth a couple of million, for £400k because the previous occupant committed suicide by gassing themselves in the cellar. No one would touch it for ten years.

And when my work, and in particular my taxes, are used to increase the value of his house, by creating schools and businesses and such, will the landlord compensate me?

Thought not.

How much compensation are landlords paying us for cross-rail?

Is it none?

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One of these perhaps?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Ower,+SO51+6AF,+UK&hl=en&ll=50.947369,-1.538515&spn=0.017467,0.0421&sll=52.8382,-

2.327815&sspn=8.579351,21.555176&hnear=Ower+SO51+6AF,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=50.947272,-1.538528&panoid=XSpOZ-e1zW3Ps3SG1Mwj7A&cbp=12,206.19,,0,0

They dont look like they need the money over some kids whos mum has just been murdered.

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The money belongs to her estate.

However, the cleaning is a business cost/business risk.

They can keep her deposit etc.

If they cannot claim against the bloke then they lose 50%.

A for the numbers - £4,555 for new carpets??? Really.

£782 for dry-cleaning blood-stained curtains - b@lls.

£2,100 - totally BS.

How much blood does some-one have?

The LL should be in the stocks for this: '£15,446.06 was attributed to ‘blight’'

The grand-parents should have let it go to court.

They should have been given a list of damages, quotes and the original cost of the furnishing.

If the carpets and curtains were more than 5 years then the court would have told them to spin.

The grandparents should have also stopped anyone moving in until the cae had been settled.

Isn't the biggest shocker of this case that the ex partner is out already?

f-cker should be doing a full life term.

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The money belongs to her estate.

However, the cleaning is a business cost/business risk.

They can keep her deposit etc.

If they cannot claim against the bloke then they lose 50%.

A for the numbers - £4,555 for new carpets??? Really.

£782 for dry-cleaning blood-stained curtains - b@lls.

£2,100 - totally BS.

How much blood does some-one have?

The LL should be in the stocks for this: '£15,446.06 was attributed to 'blight''

The grand-parents should have let it go to court.

They should have been given a list of damages, quotes and the original cost of the furnishing.

If the carpets and curtains were more than 5 years then the court would have told them to spin.

The grandparents should have also stopped anyone moving in until the cae had been settled.

Isn't the biggest shocker of this case that the ex partner is out already?

f-cker should be doing a full life term.

the problem is....they rolled over for it.

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