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Various members of Royal Family linked to tax evasion case by Chinese gangs. Allegedly. Will update as soon as I know more.

26% unemployment, huge banks b/s issues, Rajoy in a mess - and THAT is a black swan? How?

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Various members of Royal Family linked to tax evasion case by Chinese gangs. Allegedly. Will update as soon as I know more.

Do you think they are getting their tax evasion/avoidance advice from professionals? There's a firm that are experts at it, not sure what they are trading as these days, but they used to be called Saxe Coburg-Gotha..... They had a big place in central London as I recall, like most banksters.

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26% unemployment, huge banks b/s issues, Rajoy in a mess - and THAT is a black swan? How?

50% youth unemployment is the key statistic.

Idle hands, etc......

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50% youth unemployment is the key statistic.

Idle hands, etc......

Its not really 50% unemployment though is it....if it was the country would have descended into civil war long ago. No, theyre just working cash in hand, not paying taxes, like much of the rest of the southern half of europe. Taxi driving, burger vanning, waitering, painting and decorating etc etc.

Real unemployment in spain is probably lower than here. Just in Britain we're good little subjects, and the state has loyal enforcers. In southern europe a small backhander probably ensures solidarity between the public and low level officials, never allowing the incidious upper level of the state assert control over the populace.

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I thought the big issue in Spain was the current slush fund/corruption thing . . . which has Rajoy's People's Party at its lowest level of support for 20 years.

From Bloomberg

The scandal will probably increase voters’ resistance to the unpopular reforms that Rajoy tried to introduce. With the euro area’s second-highest level of unemployment -- 26 percent in the fourth quarter of 2012 -- Spain has been one of the countries hit hardest by this crisis.

Trying to get the electorate on board for painful labor-market reforms and further wage and pension cuts will be an even harder sell for a government perceived to have been dipping into a slush fund to feather the beds of its leaders.

Even if the Rajoy scandal doesn’t prompt the government’s collapse, it’s deeply damaging. It will drive another nail in the coffin of public trust in Spain’s political leaders and institutions. Confidence was already low following scandals that implicated Barcenas, former Chief Justice Carlos Divar and King Juan Carlos’s son-in-law, Inaki Urdangarin, who faces charges of embezzling funds from charitable organizations.

Oh dear. The EU is a bit short of role models at the moment.

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Various members of Royal Family linked to tax evasion case by Chinese gangs. Allegedly. Will update as soon as I know more.

Tell us more.....

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Its not really 50% unemployment though is it....if it was the country would have descended into civil war long ago. No, theyre just working cash in hand, not paying taxes, like much of the rest of the southern half of europe. Taxi driving, burger vanning, waitering, painting and decorating etc etc.

Real unemployment in spain is probably lower than here. Just in Britain we're good little subjects, and the state has loyal enforcers. In southern europe a small backhander probably ensures solidarity between the public and low level officials, never allowing the incidious upper level of the state assert control over the populace.

Ah that must explain why those European nations have never had a Fascist dictatorship whilst we have. Oh wait...

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Not available in English yet, but here's one in Spanish. Hopefully google translate won't mangle it too much. The danger in Spain is not the economy (various companies particularly car and tourist based, are investing there this year, and exports are performing well) nor even the Catalan issue. It's the Republican movement gaining control - that's what actually triggered the last civil war. But if the Royals have been caught up this time in slush and money laundering, who can blame the population if they want rid?

Article in Spanish

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Do you think they are getting their tax evasion/avoidance advice from professionals? There's a firm that are experts at it, not sure what they are trading as these days, but they used to be called Saxe Coburg-Gotha..... They had a big place in central London as I recall, like most banksters.

The B'nai B'rith is part of the Masonic Scottish Rite Order established in 1843. It's militant arm, the "Anti Defamation League" (ADL) was formed in 1913, the same year as the US Federal Reserve.

The B'nai B'rith/ Scottish Rite was instrumental in starting the Ku Klux Klan and causing the US Civil War, which destroyed the flower of American manhood. A B'nai B'rith leader, Simon Wolf, was a Confederate spy and was implicated in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, the first of many such coup d'etats (i.e. the assassinations of Presidents Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy.)

Millions of non-Jews and a disproportionate number of Jews have sold their souls to these Lucifer-loving bankers. Led by the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, the banking cartel is behind the Sept. 11 attacks, the Iraq war and the phony "War on Terror."

They are behind the B'nai B'rith-ADL. Take their "Diversity" program for example. You cannot work for a large corporation or government today without receiving this insulting Stalinist indoctrination which forces us to embrace human "differences" regardless of their merit. A measure of the Masonic control of Western society is that "Diversity" was never debated or put to a vote. It became the official ideology as if by magic.

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Ah that must explain why those European nations have never had a Fascist dictatorship whilst we have. Oh wait...

Remember "Pomp & Ceremony" we are brainwashed/'subjected' to each year - a type of self - flattery

" >>>> Britons never, never, never (occult trio of words - a hex) shall be slaves"

The words were written by the Scottish pre-Romantic poet James Thompson

"PETER PAN in Nederland ... Jake and the Never-land Pirates"

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Its not really 50% unemployment though is it....if it was the country would have descended into civil war long ago. No, theyre just working cash in hand, not paying taxes, like much of the rest of the southern half of europe. Taxi driving, burger vanning, waitering, painting and decorating etc etc.

Real unemployment in spain is probably lower than here. Just in Britain we're good little subjects, and the state has loyal enforcers. In southern europe a small backhander probably ensures solidarity between the public and low level officials, never allowing the incidious upper level of the state assert control over the populace.

The Order of the Golden Fleece was defended from possible accusations of prideful pomp by the Burgundian court poet Michault Taillevent, who asserted that it was instituted:

" Non point pour jeu ne pour esbatement,

Mais à la fin que soit attribuée

Loenge à Dieu trestout premièrement

Et aux bons gloire et haulte renommée.

" " Not for amusement nor for recreation,

But for the purpose that praise shall be given to God,

In the very first place,

And to the good, glory and high renown.

(Carlos(Charles) recently caused outrage in Spain going big-game hunting in Africa on the taxpayer whilst population have been forced onto AUST-erity)

The order, conceived in an ecclesiastical spirit in which mass and obsequies were prominent and the knights were seated in choirstalls like canons, was explicitly denied to "heretics", and so became an exclusively Catholic award during the Reformation. (Why Spanish 'Loyola' Jesuits are building their grotesque Satanic Cathedral on the Greenwich mean line)

It is restricted to a limited number of knights, initially 24 but increased to 30 in 1433, and 50 in 1516, plus the sovereign.

Today there exist two branches of the Order: the Spanish and the Austrian Fleece; the current sovereigns are respectively Juan Carlos I, King of Spain, and Karl von Habsburg, grandson of Emperor Charles I of Austria.

On topic - Rigsby's Fat Cat = 'Vienna'

https://en.wikipedia...e_Golden_Fleece

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More (in English) on the unpopularity of the monarchy in Spain

Juan Carlos

They are all 'demonising' themselves to let in the Zionist/Masonic manifesto pledge of "total anarchy" over whole of (Europe?)

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Not available in English yet, but here's one in Spanish. Hopefully google translate won't mangle it too much. The danger in Spain is not the economy (various companies particularly car and tourist based, are investing there this year, and exports are performing well) nor even the Catalan issue. It's the Republican movement gaining control - that's what actually triggered the last civil war. But if the Royals have been caught up this time in slush and money laundering, who can blame the population if they want rid?

Article in Spanish

It's a bit of a stretch to suggest that republicans caused the Spanish civil war. A better description is that it was a backlash by landowners, monarchists and the catholic church against democratically elected republicans. Of course it's a lot more complicated than all that:

Background of the spanish civil war

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Im in Spain atm (Costa Blanca ) and every newspaper you pick up are full of corruption story's involving people in power they seemingly have been on the take for years, On the general economy what I see is beggars increasing everywhere in the town centrers and also getting aggressive, people rummaging through bins is an everyday sight hardly any if at all advertised jobs in bars shops etc.

House prices are dropping seemingly everyday don't know where the bottom will be.

Something will give here soon not sure what the black swan event will be though but it must be flying very close now

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It's a bit of a stretch to suggest that republicans caused the Spanish civil war. A better description is that it was a backlash by landowners, monarchists and the catholic church against democratically elected republicans. Of course it's a lot more complicated than all that:

Background of the spanish civil war

The 'retreating' POPE is directly connected to Regensberg "My Heart is in Bavaria" Bavaria is intrinsicaly linked to Black forest and BEAR (BER-MUDA offshore tax evasion)

Another interesting connection is Regensberg (Castra Regina/Rat-isbon) escaped any severe carpet bombing damage in WW2 - the only city in Germany (Masons-Teutonics)

VENETIAN BLIND > > Max von Thorn und Taxis, the Regensberg,

Bavaria-based head of the 400-year-old Venetian Thorn und Taxis family.

(Head spy chief of Rothschild/Rockefeller post office frauds)The explicit purpose of the society was to revive and spread the Conservative Revolutionary ideas spelled out in von Hayek's book — "The Road to Serfdom"

The Jesuits started the Spanish Civil War by stealing land from the peasants and stirring up opposition against dissenters

(this now Links to Orwell - Homage to Catalonia)

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Its not really 50% unemployment though is it....if it was the country would have descended into civil war long ago. No, theyre just working cash in hand, not paying taxes, like much of the rest of the southern half of europe. Taxi driving, burger vanning, waitering, painting and decorating etc etc.

Real unemployment in spain is probably lower than here. Just in Britain we're good little subjects, and the state has loyal enforcers. In southern europe a small backhander probably ensures solidarity between the public and low level officials, never allowing the incidious upper level of the state assert control over the populace.

No. 50% 'youth employment' is a fairly meaningless statistic and sounds good for those who want to quote this number. This is a number derived from dividing the number of young people who are not in education blah blah and want to work but could not divide by the number of youth people who want to work and have works.

Naturally, those who are reasonably competent are in all sort of things like education, training, backpacking at this stage of life.

It is as good as saying unemployment rates among 70 years old is 95% - a self selected set of denominator to make the number looks scary.

p.s: ok - Spain overall 20+% unemployment rate is of course far too high, but it is not where near the scary 50%, plus the 'black economy' you talk about, it is indeed a little bit less scary that the headlines.

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Its not really 50% unemployment though is it....if it was the country would have descended into civil war long ago. No, theyre just working cash in hand, not paying taxes, like much of the rest of the southern half of europe. Taxi driving, burger vanning, waitering, painting and decorating etc etc.

Real unemployment in spain is probably lower than here. Just in Britain we're good little subjects, and the state has loyal enforcers. In southern europe a small backhander probably ensures solidarity between the public and low level officials, never allowing the incidious upper level of the state assert control over the populace.

Could it be that the bureaucracy and cost of employing people has something to do with it?.......father employs son....friend employs neighbour...... ;)

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Various members of Royal Family linked to tax evasion case by Chinese gangs. Allegedly. Will update as soon as I know more.

There is no black swan here - a term that is getting ridiculously overused. Suggest that the mod move to off-topic.

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Im in Spain atm (Costa Blanca ) and every newspaper you pick up are full of corruption story's involving people in power they seemingly have been on the take for years, On the general economy what I see is beggars increasing everywhere in the town centrers and also getting aggressive, people rummaging through bins is an everyday sight hardly any if at all advertised jobs in bars shops etc.

House prices are dropping seemingly everyday don't know where the bottom will be.

Something will give here soon not sure what the black swan event will be though but it must be flying very close now

Whereabouts are you on the Blanca, Papag?

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4 November 2013A judge in Spain has ordered properties belonging to the king's son-in-law to be impounded amid a corruption scandal that has embarrassed the royal family. Inaki Urdangarin, the Duke of Palma, is suspected of misusing millions of euros in public funds that were given to a charitable foundation he ran.

The judge ordered the seizure to cover a 6.1m euro (£5.23m: $8.2m) bond for the duke's liability in the case. The duke has denied wrongdoing and has not been charged with any crime.

... One of the properties targeted by the judge is a large luxury house on the outskirts of Barcelona belonging to the duke and Princess Cristina. Several other properties belonging to them in the Balearic Islands and in north-east Spain have also been seized.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-24808787

I'm not referring to these turn of events, but whilst corruption may have been common-place during the boom years, it's encouraging the authorities might be trying to move against it now - providing they don't turn on actual wealth-creators/productive business people.

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