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Just watched the new BBC property program this morning (one of three in sequence with "Homes under the Hammer" and "Trading Up", or, as they should have been called, "Buying Homes When You're Hammered" and "F**king up") ;

Anyway, it's called Uncharted Territory..."Presenters Juliet Morris and Kristian Digby, with property expert Nigel Leck, visit various countries where property bargains are a reality, not a dream".

Quite strange, because they visited 3 properties in Hergla, Tunisia. The most expensive of these was around £35K. Quite derelict, but with the cheap labour it could be a 6 bed huge mansion for a relatively small layout.

Did anyone see this program? The thing that really stood out the most for me was the overvaluation of the UK market in comparison.

Of course, the relative wages are a lot less, but with the second property costing around £23K with £30-50 rent/week and £1000 to do up, it might make someone think twice about BTL in the UK.

If there's anyone left still considering it, that is....

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y'know. the last thing i want the bbc to use the forced licence fee for is yet another stupid, stupid, stupid property program.

who now gives any kind of sh1t about some gimps, having laced this country up having sold some claptrap terrace for 300% profit to some poor uk young couple. now going to bum fock egypt and buying out locals as well.

what a tired, silly format from the ultimate housing goons.

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Just watched the new BBC property program this morning (one of three in sequence with "Homes under the Hammer" and "Trading Up", or, as they should have been called, "Buying Homes When You're Hammered" and "F**king up") ;

Anyway, it's called Uncharted Territory..."Presenters Juliet Morris and Kristian Digby, with property expert Nigel Leck, visit various countries where property bargains are a reality, not a dream".

Quite strange, because they visited 3 properties in Hergla, Tunisia. The most expensive of these was around £35K. Quite derelict, but with the cheap labour it could be a 6 bed huge mansion for a relatively small layout.

Did anyone see this program? The thing that really stood out the most for me was the overvaluation of the UK market in comparison.

Of course, the relative wages are a lot less, but with the second property costing around £23K with £30-50 rent/week and £1000 to do up, it might make someone think twice about BTL in the UK.

If there's anyone left still considering it, that is....

When UK prices revert to norm, no one will give a toss about buying in Tunisia or Bulgaria...

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i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property explorer'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property in the midday sun'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property holiday'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property cloppety'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property island'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property natives'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

wow. with this amount of talent i should apply at the bbc as head of light entertainment.

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y'know. the last thing i want the bbc to use the forced licence fee for is yet another stupid, stupid, stupid property program.

who now gives any kind of sh1t about some gimps, having laced this country up having sold some claptrap terrace for 300% profit to some poor uk young couple. now going to bum fock egypt and buying out locals as well.

what a tired, silly format from the ultimate housing goons.

I saw this programme and if I'm not mistaken it was a repeat (I think...I'm sure I've seen it before).

I think this could be really really interesting - as we all know, most states with a majority Muslim population dont take too kindly to interference from 'The West'.....I'd love to see what their reaction will be to rampant HPI which results in local people becoming tenants to the BTL 'crusaders' from the West :o:o

Thanks, but no thanks.....I'll keep my pennies tucked up in the bank for now B)

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im not bothered about the specifics and dynamics.

i just think for a forced £130 a year the bbc could do much better.

lazy, copycat BORING and out of touch programs like this make the case for scrapping the fee a strong one.

why keep these idiots in jobs if all they can come up with day after day is programs about houses, which a massive proportion of its viewers are priced out of.

insensitive ?

wrong ?

waste ?

all 3

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i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property explorer'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

Here's a good one: how's about "property sex slave trap"

Here couples who made good from the uk youth revisist the now struggling, young, fit purchasers of their overpriced properties and offer to help them out with the mortgage in exchange for sex. Yeah, that should really bump up the ratings: sex, property and exploitation all in one neat package. Now that's what I call real property porn - uh! see what I did there? Only gone and thought up a working title on the fly! Am I wasted trading indices or what? Sledgehead: Porn King! You know I'm nastie!

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i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property explorer'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property in the midday sun'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property holiday'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property cloppety'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property island'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

i know. how about the bbc come up with yet another program called.

'property natives'.

couples who made good from the uk youth go to another foreign country to buy up non inflated local housing to a view to profit from the local youngsters.

wow. with this amount of talent i should apply at the bbc as head of light entertainment.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You the man!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Did anyone see this program?

#Yes , I watched a bit of it .. you didn't mention that the wreck had a horse and a donkey living in it , about all it was fit for. One of the would be buyers said she expected the three wise men to appear - I wish! The 3 wise men would demolish it all and build something useful for the community on the site.

These programmes are just a joke and are only worth watching (if at all) for their dubious entertainment value.

Who in their right minds would buy a wreck of a property in a third world country, where a change of government could mean having your property seized on a whim? How do you deal with local tradesmen without speaking Arabic ? Etc. etc.

I though the best bit was when it was suggested you could buy a 2nd hand car from a sort of street market - a sort of car boot sale where you actually buy the car.

I just hope no-one takes this kind of programme seriously !

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So in summary the opinion of this site is that someone has identified a possible investment opportunity but we would rather sit here and moan about how we missed the last investment opportunity.

If I sit here and wait for long enough that fortune might just fall into my lap after all....

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Thanks, but no thanks.....I'll keep my pennies tucked up in the bank for now B)

Hmm I misread that you know and wondered why on earth you kept it in the bank!

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..Was just wondering if the program might have some psychological effect on the UK, rather than suggesting we should all move to Malawi and live under a mountain goat.

You know - the huge plots/buildings, the prices - £20K, £30K, the phrase "Tunisia isn't the cheapest place we going to look at", the availability of free donkeys, etc ,etc.

It might get some people thinking "maybe the outside lav I'm thinking of buying in S****horpe for £500K isn't that great a bargain after all"?

It might as well be!....my g/f sees to that <_<

Tell your godfather it's none of his business. :D

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So in summary the opinion of this site is that someone has identified a possible investment opportunity but we would rather sit here and moan about how we missed the last investment opportunity.

If I sit here and wait for long enough that fortune might just fall into my lap after all....

I think ethics figures in here somewhere.

Or are you the type of person who would have viewed the Krupp Group as an ideal investement opportunity (with such low labour costs, how can you lose?)

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Wow, It's official - the town of Scun-thorpe in Yorkshire is too offensive to be spoken of,

and gets automatically censored.

It might not be the best place in the UK to live, but it's by far the most onomatopoeic.

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You don't have to go to Tunisia for cheap property. My wife just inherited her mother's house. It's in westernmost Germany, near the Luxemburg border. The house is in a small village in an area of hilly farmland with few well paid jobs - many of the locals drive to work in Luxemburg every day.

The house is reinforced concrete construction, built in the 60s to german standards. It has a pretty good sized garden, and all utilities except for gas (oil heating is normal in the area). It was originally built as two flats, but used as a 6-bed house. It has a cellar as big as the ground floor and a loft with concrete floor that is almost as big.

Value today, around 100K euros, or £70K.

Rental values are consequently low (we are letting out the top flat for 375 euros pcm, having just reconverted it), but compared to the house value, pretty good.

Tenants often stay in the same house for decades, so not the same probs with voids. Properties are normally let unfurnished, so less investment there.

Maybe Germany will be the next (last?) place to boom?

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Wow, It's official - the town of Scun-thorpe in Yorkshire is too offensive to be spoken of,

and gets automatically censored.

It might not be the best place in the UK to live, but it's by far the most onomatopoeic.

You must have heard that story where Scun-thorpe Council introduced email monitoring / censoring? Trying to stop junk mail and timewasting by employees. After a couple of days of not being able to receive or send any mails at all they realised the software was picking up part of the email address and deleting every mail in or out of the council offices.

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When UK prices revert to norm, no one will give a toss about buying in Tunisia or Bulgaria...

Someone mention Bulgaria ? :blink:

I dont feel too bad about retiring there as the population of Bulgaria is decreasing by nearly 1% year on year. Also mainly old Bulgarians live in the villages as there isnt any work so the Bulgarians are quite grateful to sell to Brits in villages. Incidentally Brits often get charged twice the price for property than Bulgarians get charged.

I cant see UK country villas ever getting as cheap as Bulgaria (about £1,500 if you cut out the Estate Agent).

Edited by penbat1

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You must have heard that story where Scun-thorpe Council introduced email monitoring / censoring? Trying to stop junk mail and timewasting by employees. After a couple of days of not being able to receive or send any mails at all they realised the software was picking up part of the email address and deleting every mail in or out of the council offices.

Yes, I heard that they eventually got fed up of it, and moved out of the area to Peni-stone.

Probably.

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Yes, I heard that they eventually got fed up of it, and moved out of the area to Peni-stone.

Probably.

Top 100 rude places:

100 Jeffries Passage, Surrey

99 Prince Albert Court, Surrey

98 Nork Rise, Surrey

97 Brown Willy, Cornwall

96 Great Tosson, Northumberland

95 Trump Street, London

94 St. Mellons, Cardiff

93 Percy Passage, London

92 Booty Lane, North Yorkshire

91 Nether Wallop, Hampshire

90 Honeypot Lane, Leicestershire

89 Mudchute, London

88 Juggs Close, East Sussex

87 Cockermouth Green, Newcastle

86 Six Mile Bottom, Cambridgeshire

85 **** and Bell Lane, Suffolk

84 Little Bushey Lane, Hertfordshire

83 Titlington Mount, Northumberland

82 Slippery Lane, Staffordshire

81 Hooker Road, Norwich

80 Cumloden Court, Dumfries and Galloway

79 Tinkerbush Lane, Oxfordshire

78 Ugley, Essex

77 Pratts Bottom, Kent

76 Ramsbottom Lane, Greater Manchester

75 Prickwillow, Cambridgeshire

74 Old Sodbury, Gloucestershire

73 Upper Dicker, East Sussex

72 Swell, Somerset

71 Bladda, Paisley

70 Snatchup, Hertfordshire

69 Spital in the Street, Lincolnshire

68 Shingay cum Wendy, Buckinghamshire

67 Pump Alley, Middlesex

66 Old Sodom Lane, Wiltshire

65 Long Lover Lane, Halifax

64 East Breast, Inverclyde

63 Dicks Mount, Suffolk

62 Staines , Surrey

61 Crapstone, Devon

60 Three Cocks, Powys

59 Feltwell, Norfolk

58 Pant, Shropshire

57 Balls Cross, West Sussex

56 Ogle Close, Merseyside

55 Friars Entry, Oxfordshire

54 North Piddle, Worcestershire

53 Mincing Lane, London

52 Bottoms Fold, Lancashire

51 Backside Lane, Oxfordshire

50 Winkle Street, Southampton

49 Wham Bottom Lane, Lancashire

48 Upperthong, West Yorkshire

47 Tosside, Lancashire

46 The Furry, Cornwall

45 Lower Swell, Gloucestershire

44 Lickers Lane, Merseyside

43 Honey Knob Hill, Wiltshire

42 Boghead, Ayrshire

41 The Bush, Buckinghamshire

40 Hill o'Many Stanes, Scotland

39 Grope Lane, Shropshire

38 Willey, Warwickshire

37 Happy Bottom, Dorset

36 Feltham Close, Hampshire

35 The Knob, Oxfordshire

34 Menlove Avenue, Liverpool

33 Titty Ho, Northamptonshire

32 Crotch Cresent, Oxfordshire

31 Blairmuckhole & Forestdyke road, Lanarkshire

30 Pant-y-Felin Road, Swansea

29 Beef Lane, Oxfordshire

28 Merkins Avenue, West Dumbartonshire

27 Pork Lane, Essex

26 Moisty Lane, Staffordshire

25 Wetwang, East Yorkshire

24 Scratchy Bottom, Dorset

23 Swallow Passage, London

22 Lickey End, Worcestershire

21 Bitchfield, Lincolnshire

20 Spanker Lane, Derbyshire

19 Rimswell, East Riding of Yorkshire

18 Lickfold, West Sussex

17 Dick Court, Lanarkshire

16 Beaver Close, Surrey

15 Fanny Avenue, Derbyshire

14 Cockshoot Close, Oxfordshire

13 Inchinnan Drive, Renfrewshire

12 Fanny Hands Lane, Lincolnshire

11 Hole of Horcum, North Yorkshire,

10 Slag Lane, Merseyside

9 Shitterton, Dorset

8 Back Passage, London

7 Fingringhoe, Essex

6 Muff, Northern Ireland

5 Sandy Balls, Hampshire

4 Twatt, Orkney

3 Bell End, Birmingham

2 Minge Lane, Worcestershire

1 Cocks, Cornwall

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Someone mention Bulgaria ? :blink:

I dont feel too bad about retiring there as the population of Bulgaria is decreasing by nearly 1% year on year. Also mainly old Bulgarians live in the villages are there isnt any work so the Bulgarians are quite grateful to sell tp Brits in villages. Incidentally Brits often get charged twice the price for property than Bulgarians get charged.

I cant see UK country villas ever getting as cheap as Bulgaria (about £1,500 if you cut out the Estate Agent).

Maybe, but would you still buy there if you could buy something similar and equivalent in price in a Western European country? I wasn't making a point on the ethics particularly (although there might be an issue about outpricing the locals), just noting that outrageous prices in the UK and say Spain are forcing people to places they would never have dreamt of otherwise. I was reading about the organised crime problem and assasinations in Sofia earlier this week, which would also put me off a bit, but then Paris is not much better right now...

Agreed £1500 is unlikely to be beaten.

Edited by Scooter

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Maybe, but would you still buy there if you could buy something similar and equivalent in price in a Western European country? I wasn't making a point on the ethics particularly (although there might be an issue about outpricing the locals), just noting that outrageous prices in the UK and say Spain are forcing people to places they would never have dreamt of otherwise. I was reading about the organised crime problem and assasinations in Sofia earlier this week, which would also put me off a bit, but then Paris is not much better right now...

Agreed £1500 is unlikely to be beaten.

I was partly commenting on someone elses post as well. Yes i wouldnt touch Sofia with a barge pole - I would stay well away in the country villages.

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Top 100 rude places:

100 Jeffries Passage, Surrey

99 Prince Albert Court, Surrey

98 Nork Rise, Surrey

97 Brown Willy, Cornwall

96 Great Tosson, Northumberland

95 Trump Street, London

94 St. Mellons, Cardiff

93 Percy Passage, London

92 Booty Lane, North Yorkshire

91 Nether Wallop, Hampshire

90 Honeypot Lane, Leicestershire

89 Mudchute, London

88 Juggs Close, East Sussex

87 Cockermouth Green, Newcastle

86 Six Mile Bottom, Cambridgeshire

85 **** and Bell Lane, Suffolk

84 Little Bushey Lane, Hertfordshire

83 Titlington Mount, Northumberland

82 Slippery Lane, Staffordshire

81 Hooker Road, Norwich

80 Cumloden Court, Dumfries and Galloway

79 Tinkerbush Lane, Oxfordshire

78 Ugley, Essex

77 Pratts Bottom, Kent

76 Ramsbottom Lane, Greater Manchester

75 Prickwillow, Cambridgeshire

74 Old Sodbury, Gloucestershire

73 Upper Dicker, East Sussex

72 Swell, Somerset

71 Bladda, Paisley

70 Snatchup, Hertfordshire

69 Spital in the Street, Lincolnshire

68 Shingay cum Wendy, Buckinghamshire

67 Pump Alley, Middlesex

66 Old Sodom Lane, Wiltshire

65 Long Lover Lane, Halifax

64 East Breast, Inverclyde

63 Dicks Mount, Suffolk

62 Staines , Surrey

61 Crapstone, Devon

60 Three Cocks, Powys

59 Feltwell, Norfolk

58 Pant, Shropshire

57 Balls Cross, West Sussex

56 Ogle Close, Merseyside

55 Friars Entry, Oxfordshire

54 North Piddle, Worcestershire

53 Mincing Lane, London

52 Bottoms Fold, Lancashire

51 Backside Lane, Oxfordshire

50 Winkle Street, Southampton

49 Wham Bottom Lane, Lancashire

48 Upperthong, West Yorkshire

47 Tosside, Lancashire

46 The Furry, Cornwall

45 Lower Swell, Gloucestershire

44 Lickers Lane, Merseyside

43 Honey Knob Hill, Wiltshire

42 Boghead, Ayrshire

41 The Bush, Buckinghamshire

40 Hill o'Many Stanes, Scotland

39 Grope Lane, Shropshire

38 Willey, Warwickshire

37 Happy Bottom, Dorset

36 Feltham Close, Hampshire

35 The Knob, Oxfordshire

34 Menlove Avenue, Liverpool

33 Titty Ho, Northamptonshire

32 Crotch Cresent, Oxfordshire

31 Blairmuckhole & Forestdyke road, Lanarkshire

30 Pant-y-Felin Road, Swansea

29 Beef Lane, Oxfordshire

28 Merkins Avenue, West Dumbartonshire

27 Pork Lane, Essex

26 Moisty Lane, Staffordshire

25 Wetwang, East Yorkshire

24 Scratchy Bottom, Dorset

23 Swallow Passage, London

22 Lickey End, Worcestershire

21 Bitchfield, Lincolnshire

20 Spanker Lane, Derbyshire

19 Rimswell, East Riding of Yorkshire

18 Lickfold, West Sussex

17 Dick Court, Lanarkshire

16 Beaver Close, Surrey

15 Fanny Avenue, Derbyshire

14 Cockshoot Close, Oxfordshire

13 Inchinnan Drive, Renfrewshire

12 Fanny Hands Lane, Lincolnshire

11 Hole of Horcum, North Yorkshire,

10 Slag Lane, Merseyside

9 Shitterton, Dorset

8 Back Passage, London

7 Fingringhoe, Essex

6 Muff, Northern Ireland

5 Sandy Balls, Hampshire

4 Twatt, Orkney

3 Bell End, Birmingham

2 Minge Lane, Worcestershire

1 Cocks, Cornwall

...and only s****horpe is censored....

Anyway, I've decided to do a tour of some of these places;

First of all, I'll go to Boghead and Shitterton, out via Back Passage before proceeding to take in The Knob, up Mudshute, and if I shoot round Beaver Close, I should just about be able to make the Hole Of Horcum.

How does this route sound?

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