crash2006 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21264773 But we cant have a mansion tax can we, now everyone suffers apart from the rich, the Tories sure do know how to party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Just won`t get paid. We are reaching maximum saturation for council tax IMO, many councils will have financial problems in the coming years. A lot goes uncollected, and even middle class dummies are catching on to this, and getting p*issed about it. Pay the rent/ mortgage and feed your kids or throw money at the council to f*uck up some vanity projects (Scottish parliament, Edinburgh trams etc etc) Seems like a no brainer to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 This'll be nothing compared to when all the High St shops disappear thus no longer paying business rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The government argues that such welfare reform is vital to tackle the budget deficit. The government can "argue" what it likes but it's getting clearer and clearer to most people that the reality is banking bailouts, money for council executives and corporate hangers on etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMX9 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Council tax has now effectively become a national tax - with referendums required for increases of more than 2%. Shame we can't have a referendum when Osborne raises taxes - or on his budget each year! However the change here is a lot more profound i.e. most areas will be making everyone pay at least something towards their council tax due to national cuts in council tax benefit. Benefit claimants who have paid nothing for years (if ever) - may now be asked to contribute £200-£300 a year in council tax. Problem is - they won't pay up. So we have a mini poll tax 2 on our hands - it just wont be cost effective to enforce the bills! And no councillor wants to be seen sending in bailiffs to carers or the disabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Internet tax is coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigkid Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21264773 But we cant have a mansion tax can we, now everyone suffers apart from the rich, the Tories sure do know how to party. Bleeding heart or vested interest? I fully welcome the news that the crazy benefits handouts are being reduced as they've contributed to a morally bankrupt society in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigkid Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The government can "argue" what it likes but it's getting clearer and clearer to most people that the reality is banking bailouts, money for council executives and corporate hangers on etc. Who provided the original bank bailouts? Oh it was Labour wasn't it and why was it necessary? Oh because the Labour government had allowed rampant HPI for the previous 10 years. Oh that's right I remember now. Benefits are an insidious way of controlling people. Thing is most of these people don't mind being controlled if it means they don't have to go to work and can sit at home watching TV all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigkid Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Who provided the original bank bailouts? Oh it was Labour wasn't it and why was it necessary? Oh because the Labour government had allowed rampant HPI for the previous 10 years. Oh that's right I remember now. Benefits are an insidious way of controlling people. Thing is most of these people don't mind being controlled if it means they don't have to go to work and can sit at home watching TV all day. None and I do mean NONE of the benefits claimants I know (and I do know quite a few) are incapable of working. They've all been in a position where they cold take a job (by that I mean not genuinely unemployed and seeking work) but choose not to. Some play the system. Single mums working 16hrs a week to get max WTC and CTC but not working 1 minute more is a classic. It's nice when someone is prepared to give you £1500/month and you get 3 week days to do what you want at home plus your weekends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughEgg Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Anyone know when the Labour manifesto for 2015 will be out and is there any chance of a mansion tax from them? The walls of my south London slavecube are closing in on me and some kind of mansion tax and/or tax on foreign owned stuff is the only way prices will fall in the capital IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Don't worry they will try and tap and erode away every penny you've got and worked hard for until there is nothing left in the kitty to spend....working to keep others in work. Working to try and see the little money earned is spent in a careful and responsible way to pay much of it over for others to blow it and waste it, it is easy to spend and waste other peoples money.......there must be another way. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) None and I do mean NONE of the benefits claimants I know (and I do know quite a few) are incapable of working. They've all been in a position where they cold take a job (by that I mean not genuinely unemployed and seeking work) but choose not to. Some play the system. Single mums working 16hrs a week to get max WTC and CTC but not working 1 minute more is a classic. It's nice when someone is prepared to give you £1500/month and you get 3 week days to do what you want at home plus your weekends. Why shouldn't they? When the Tories cut the higher tax rates in the 80s I read it allowed the rich work less as obviously there income went up and the people who worked harder where the lower paid. In all seriousness why wouldn't you play the system, if you can "earn" more money by not working why would you? It's perverse and clearly that shouldn't exist but whilst it does you'd be a moron not to play the game. Edited January 31, 2013 by interestrateripoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherProle Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Council Tax must be increased year on year to pay for the bloated bosses pay packets, we are literally being robbed by the council cartels and we will go to PRISON if we do not play along like nice little serfs: Pay for top 5 council bosses 2010/2011Joanna Killian Chief executive Essex County Council and Brentwood Borough Council Total remuneration: £289,173 Geoff Alltimes Chief executive Hammersmith and Fulham Borough Council Total remuneration: £281,667 Chris Williams Chief executive Buckinghamshire County Council Total remuneration: £259,104 David White Chief executive Norfolk County Council Total remuneration: £256,900 David Mcnulty Chief executive Surrey Country Council Total remuneration: £253,133 How can anyone justify these wages and still keep demanding the tax payer pay more and more tax, whilst councils outsource more and more of the services YOU PAY THEM TO PROVIDE. Robbing criminal scum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jail Them All Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Internet tax is coming. Double / treble your ISP costs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmojo Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Internet tax is coming. I agree. It already exists in Italy (obviously) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Why shouldn't they? When the Tories cut the higher tax rates in the 80s I read it allowed the rich work less as obviously there income went up and the people who worked harder where the lower paid. In all seriousness why wouldn't you play the system, if you can "earn" more money by not working why would you? It's perverse and clearly that shouldn't exist but whilst it does you'd be a moron not to play the game. It is not a case of playing the game it is the system that has been created...therefore people work with it and around it to gain as much of the benefits afforded to them that they can......so the top ride the system as much as the bottom do..... it is the easy pickings middle PAYE who end up paying for both of them. One pays £5 a week towards their council tax as a nominal gesture of goodwill....the other pay 0.5% of their income towards their council tax to show willing.........the working middle are the easy game they end up taking and paying for most of the pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedTuna Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Well, I'll be paying more. I make bugger all from my work, and therefore qualify for a 50% discount. I intend to protest by cancelling my direct debit, messing them around and only eventually paying the bill quarterly, in cash right before the bailiffs are due. A giant jar of spare change will be part of the payments made. If they complain, I'll mention that I'm desperately poor and only just managed to get the money together by going without food/heating. Edited January 31, 2013 by DementedTuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy666 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Council Tax must be increased year on year to pay for the bloated bosses pay packets, we are literally being robbed by the council cartels and we will go to PRISON if we do not play along like nice little serfs: How can anyone justify these wages and still keep demanding the tax payer pay more and more tax, whilst councils outsource more and more of the services YOU PAY THEM TO PROVIDE. Robbing criminal scum! A national pay scale for local councils would be an extremely popular policy.. (except amongst the politicians..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliegog Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 are there really MILLIONS of people (households) who will suddenly have to pay a bit of council tax as far as I can see the problem is that council tax benefit is far too generous especially to those on pension credit (who even if only £1 below the PC level get FULL council tax). Council tax benefit should be payable at say band C or D for every recipient household- at the moment it is not restricted to any band. those who feel agrieved at this should downsize/move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil S Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Scrap council tax and replace it with a local tax. Job done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybernoid Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 "Millions of the poorest households face council tax rises because most councils in England will pass on a 10% benefit funding cut" Or they could reduce the stupid salaries at the top of the council, or stop wasting money on 5 safety jacketed morons all sat on the same roundabout all day watching sponger no 6 pick up a leaf. The problem is not the cut, the problem is that it is being passed on by the councils instead of trimming their own largesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gardener Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 "Millions of the poorest households face council tax rises because most councils in England will pass on a 10% benefit funding cut" Or they could reduce the stupid salaries at the top of the council, or stop wasting money on 5 safety jacketed morons all sat on the same roundabout all day watching sponger no 6 pick up a leaf. The problem is not the cut, the problem is that it is being passed on by the councils instead of trimming their own largesse. +1 Just one Chief Exec on £150k swallows up the council tax paid by 118 band C Council Tax payers in my borough. Lord knows how many more have to pay for his pension and golden goodbye. This evil has to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherProle Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 +1 Just one Chief Exec on £150k swallows up the council tax paid by 118 band C Council Tax payers in my borough. Lord knows how many more have to pay for his pension and golden goodbye. This evil has to stop. Unless they have protesting public picketing outside every council office in the land this will never, ever change. Even then you must be prepared for a kick in from the plod and your life turned upside down with fines and threats, is anyone really prepared to do this in numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gardener Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Unless they have protesting public picketing outside every council office in the land this will never, ever change. Even then you must be prepared for a kick in from the plod and your life turned upside down with fines and threats, is anyone really prepared to do this in numbers? There will come a time, sooner than they think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 +1 Just one Chief Exec on £150k swallows up the council tax paid by 118 band C Council Tax payers in my borough. Lord knows how many more have to pay for his pension and golden goodbye. This evil has to stop. £150k? Peanuts! Try £200k http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/news/annual_report_claims_24_brent_council_employees_on_six_figure_salary_packages_1_1359473 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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