RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20842827 A negative image of Africa in the UK is harming efforts to raise food aid in the continent, charity Oxfam has said.It found that three out of four people had become desensitised to images showing hunger, drought and disease. Three-quarters thought it was possible to end hunger in Africa, but just one in five believed they could play an active role in achieving it. Of the more than 2,000 people surveyed, almost half suggested hunger as the biggest problem facing Africa. Respondents to the survey said over-exposure to negative media and advertising portrayals of Africa and developing countries in other parts of the world was "depressing, manipulative and hopeless". BBC posts a totally one-sided propaganda piece, only for the reader comments to offer a rather dissenting opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doomed Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20842827 BBC posts a totally one-sided propaganda piece, only for the reader comments to offer a rather dissenting opinion. The money that has been donated over the years has obviously been stolen or wasted. There is no reason any where in the world in this day and age should not have clean drinking water. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest_James Toney_* Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 cut down the amount of children they have would be a good move to start with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SarahBell Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 There was a good article about how famine aid to Niger has made the problem much worse. Can't find it at moment but from memory: The area had something like 5M people 20 years ago. Starving. Because the population can't be supported by the land. Aid comes in and keeps them all alive and they expand. So now there's 15M of them starving becuase the population can't be supported by the land. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erranta Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20842827 BBC posts a totally one-sided propaganda piece, only for the reader comments to offer a rather dissenting opinion. Western Govts deliberately leave mass murdering, corrupt, extorters and dictators to rule the roost in Africa whilst Chinese and Western companies bribe them to get Africa's resources cheap. (They also do this in Sarf America) Benefitting a few rich middle-men b'stards at the top of the money/food chains! Then there is the case of the Lost Tribes? of Hebrew Jews - who after centuries of deliberate conflict, oppression and GENOCIDE by Satanists don't even realise who they are! Edited December 28, 2012 by erranta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Masked Tulip Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 That BBC programme about the hotel Claridges showed lots of African 'leaders' staying there during the Olympics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Masked Tulip Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Western Govts deliberately leave mass murdering, corrupt, extorters and dictators to rule the roost in Africa whilst Chinese and Western companies bribe them to get Africa's resources cheap. (They also do this in Sarf America) Benefitting a few rich middle-men b'stards at the top of the money/food chains! Then there is the case of the Lost Tribes? of Hebrew Jews - who after centuries of deliberate conflict, oppression and GENOCIDE by Satanists don't even realise who they are! You were doing so well at the outset... but then it all went wrong at the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stormymonday_2011 Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Wherever there is a famine in Africa you can bet your last dollar there is a civil war going on at the same time. Funny how there is always a shortage of food but apparently never any difficulty getting hold of guns and ammunition in these places. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 There was a good article about how famine aid to Niger has made the problem much worse.Can't find it at moment but from memory: The area had something like 5M people 20 years ago. Starving. Because the population can't be supported by the land. Aid comes in and keeps them all alive and they expand. So now there's 15M of them starving becuase the population can't be supported by the land. This is pretty much what happened across ALL the African countries that received large amounts of aid. High child mortality rates and lack of birth control always led to high birth rates. Once the western food and medical aid arrived, the children stopped dying and Africa had a massive population boom. Now they don't have enough food even with previous levels of food aid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Wherever there is a famine in Africa you can bet your last dollar there is a civil war going on at the same time.Funny how there is always a shortage of food but apparently never any difficulty getting hold of guns and ammunition in these places. The wars have been going on for hundreds sometimes thousands of years. It's one of those things people forget... like the fact that black people in Africa were trading slaves for thousands of years before white people came along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Democorruptcy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 The money that has been donated over the years has obviously been stolen or wasted. There is no reason any where in the world in this day and age should not have clean drinking water. The irony.! Coming from you that made me laugh. You can see them not getting services that have been paid for but when it comes to the UK, we cannot complain about paying extra for things we have already paid for, nothing is for free in this life and we should just pay more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erranta Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) You were doing so well at the outset... but then it all went wrong at the end. Grand Master Mason Leopold of Belgum (that area again!!!) Scandal at turn of century of his 25 Million plus Genocide of Africans (plus others deleted from most history books - no wonder they hasten the onslaught of "KINDLE" hiding history) Funny its Belgium/Flanders again - that "Field of Gold" The Templars plonked their first King of Jerusalem who came from there. Both World Wars kicked off with Jerries breaking thru Belgium territory > Dun-KIRK etc coming at the West There seems to be a 'PORTAL' of pure evil at that latitutude/longitude (which just happens to be the area of head-Quarters of our Euro-Master race) Edited December 28, 2012 by erranta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goat Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 There was a good article about how famine aid to Niger has made the problem much worse. Can't find it at moment but from memory: The area had something like 5M people 20 years ago. Starving. Because the population can't be supported by the land. Aid comes in and keeps them all alive and they expand. So now there's 15M of them starving becuase the population can't be supported by the land. I also think the issue was that aid undercut and wiped out those farmers who were able to harvest a crop. By making loads of free food available the market price collapsed; farmers couldn't sell what they did harvest so they had no money to buy seed for next year, the land was abandonned and the ability of the country to feed itself was further diminished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nofuture Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 No, point they keep coming over here, its been 30 years since band aid and nothing has changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lewis Gordon Pugh Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Wherever there is a famine in Africa you can bet your last dollar there is a civil war going on at the same time. Funny how there is always a shortage of food but apparently never any difficulty getting hold of guns and ammunition in these places. Wherever there is a civil war you can bet the British or Americans are in there somewhere stirring the shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lewis Gordon Pugh Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 cut down the amount of children they have would be a good move to start with Yeah, you could make yourself king of the world and decide who lives and who dies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erranta Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) I also think the issue was that aid undercut and wiped out those farmers who were able to harvest a crop. By making loads of free food available the market price collapsed; farmers couldn't sell what they did harvest so they had no money to buy seed for next year, the land was abandonned and the ability of the country to feed itself was further diminished. Yes 'n No If you catch the right programs/internet investigatives you can glean info. Monsanto have been busy at work - bribing and making "MAMMAS" out of women who only promote their "OM-ega" (the end) seed. That way farmers have to buy future seeds/weed killer just from Monsanto - they will of course whack the prices up as soon as they have enough idiots lured into their program! (Note the EU-Laws that you never knew about. Our Euro-masters now only let Farmers plant seeds that have been given their officious/almighty "Approval" They are banned from planting any other type of wild/natural growing seed) Monsanto already charge multiple times over the top for their hideous weed killers in Western countries (rising Food Prices) after luring greedy farmers in with cheaper seed prices. The weedkillers contain Neuro-toxins for which many farmers have been badly affected throughout Europe and beyond. Major Hint - Farmers are the guys with the know-how to produce major tracts of crops - once they get wiped out = Global Famine! Get rid of the Farmers by poisoning them/making them neuro-toxified invalids, then . . . . . The French farmers are suing Monsanto for Billions in a mass-lawsuit cos these neuro-toxins are not listed on the weedkiller containers This could easily be the cause of much of the 1 Million 'undiagnosed' UK patients suffering with multiple ailments (which just happens to help break the NHS - hint hint) Edited December 28, 2012 by erranta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffneck Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) This is pretty much what happened across ALL the African countries that received large amounts of aid. High child mortality rates and lack of birth control always led to high birth rates. Once the western food and medical aid arrived, the children stopped dying and Africa had a massive population boom. Now they don't have enough food even with previous levels of food aid. Yeah so the new world order has Africa just where they want them - completely reliant on globalist institutions like the United Nations, World bank, IMF, European Union.Completely non self sufficient.Now they are rolling out the same model in western countries and we are seeing a small but growing number of people pushing back by growing their own food, bartering etc.But a far larger number IS becoming more and more reliant on this government aid.These people are sleepwalking to their own death, either in a war, famine, concentration camp or another hellish outcome. Edited December 28, 2012 by Ruffneck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
porca misèria Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 There was a good article about how famine aid to Niger has made the problem much worse. Can't find it at moment but from memory: The area had something like 5M people 20 years ago. Starving. Because the population can't be supported by the land. Aid comes in and keeps them all alive and they expand. So now there's 15M of them starving becuase the population can't be supported by the land. Back in the days St. Geldof was making (literally) a lot of noise about raising money, I felt like a lone voice saying he was doing much more harm than good, for precisely the reason you point out. His legacy will be more suffering even than the 20th century's Great Dictators inflicted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
porca misèria Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Wherever there is a famine in Africa you can bet your last dollar there is a civil war going on at the same time. Funny how there is always a shortage of food but apparently never any difficulty getting hold of guns and ammunition in these places. Funny how there's always a shortage of housing, but never any difficulty getting hold of stately homes. (some people have guns, or stately homes. Others struggle to get the basics) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackBaron Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 So many comments to this topic of which there is some truth and understanding but even more ignorance. Africa is a continent of 54 countries, so don't condemn the entire continent. Slavery was never agood thing for Africa and Africans did take part but that doesn't excuse the role of the Europeans in the mass movements of people for exploitation and brutality on a scale I hope we never see again. Once salvery was out of fashion due to the reduced value of goods including sugar and cotton, the Europeans turned to the African continent for expliotation. The idiots carved out vast areas of land creating countries with a diversity of cultures and are surprised when they don't get along. How can you expect harmony in a country like Nigeria with over 250 ethnic groups? In fact the Europeans incouraged disunity by favouring one tribe over the others. The old divide and conquer trick you are so proud of. Poverty in Africa is disappointing but probably no where as bad as you think considering the only information we see about African countries relates to war or aid appeals. Their economies were geared for european consumption and businesses will not commit to producing food that the locals cannot afford so bear that in mind when you consider the availability of affordable products. Going forward African countries are increasing able to take avantage of their vast resources, including oil and land etc so expect much in the way of building infrastructure and investment of health and education. With regards to the British giving less money to Africa, perhaps it is due to a recognition that their country is going down a hole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHERWICK Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Grand Master Mason Leopold of Belgum (that area again!!!) Scandal at turn of century of his 25 Million plus Genocide of Africans (plus others deleted from most history books - no wonder they hasten the onslaught of "KINDLE" hiding history) Funny its Belgium/Flanders again - that "Field of Gold" The Templars plonked their first King of Jerusalem who came from there. Both World Wars kicked off with Jerries breaking thru Belgium territory > Dun-KIRK etc coming at the West There seems to be a 'PORTAL' of pure evil at that latitutude/longitude (which just happens to be the area of head-Quarters of our Euro-Master race) KIRK..? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffneck Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 So many comments to this topic of which there is some truth and understanding but even more ignorance. Africa is a continent of 54 countries, so don't condemn the entire continent. Slavery was never agood thing for Africa and Africans did take part but that doesn't excuse the role of the Europeans in the mass movements of people for exploitation and brutality on a scale I hope we never see again. Once salvery was out of fashion due to the reduced value of goods including sugar and cotton, the Europeans turned to the African continent for expliotation. The idiots carved out vast areas of land creating countries with a diversity of cultures and are surprised when they don't get along. How can you expect harmony in a country like Nigeria with over 250 ethnic groups? In fact the Europeans incouraged disunity by favouring one tribe over the others. The old divide and conquer trick you are so proud of. No-one here is "proud" of divide and conquer and last i checked it is being foisted on the UK through mass immigration and multicult as we speak. Remember these three things 1: Slavery of africans by europeans ended over 100 years before people here were born.Compare this to Saudi Arabia where slavery was officially ended in 1984.Yes 1984 that is not a typo. 2: European imperialism was the brainchild of 1/10th of 1% banking,industrial and royal elite.Majority of English citizens worked either in agriculture or working 14 hour days in factories, returning home to live in overcrowded slums 8 to a room.Conditions were not much better for the majority of UK citizens than that of slaves. 3: The era of Chinese imperialism in Africa began years ago.Where is the outcry from the left? There have been uprisings and rebellions against Chinese oppression but they are rarely reported. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rupert The Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Yeah, you could make yourself king of the world and decide who lives and who dies. I'd settle for deciding who I donate money to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oliver Sutton Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 There was a good article about how famine aid to Niger has made the problem much worse. Can't find it at moment but from memory: The area had something like 5M people 20 years ago. Starving. Because the population can't be supported by the land. Aid comes in and keeps them all alive and they expand. So now there's 15M of them starving becuase the population can't be supported by the land. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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