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http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-12-15/the-killing-want-to-live-like-sarah-lund

The gap between rich and poor in Denmark is the lowest in the world. On average, a judge earns less than double that of a social worker. A lawyer earns barely twice more than a cleaner. You can go from working class to upper class if you get a good job. And if you get a good education, you should be able to get a good job.

University is entirely free. In fact, Danish students receive around £500 a month in living expenses. Students aren’t seen as a burden on the state, but as people whose skills will one day support it.

Mothers are actively encouraged to go back to work after having children. Once a baby reaches six months, the state begins to subsidise at least three-quarters of the cost of its childcare often more. So many children have spent so much time around other kids that Danish pronunciation has changed as a result

All this costs money. Most people pay around 50 per cent of their salary to the taxman. VAT is at 25 per cent, so eating out is a luxury. And there’s an 180 per cent levy on cars, which makes four-by-fours a rare sight.

Personally I find living in these nordic cultures stifling, I'm more Borgias than C.H.

I wonder if they hand all the goodness over to EU benefit migrants who just pitch up?

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Sounds like a socialist dream - kids looked after by the state, everyone earning similar amounts of money. I guess it is a good place to be for unambitious people who just want to have their lives run for them. Cannot see it is great for anyone else. With such high taxes and similar pay, why do anything which is too stressful - a job like being a postman sounds good in such a place.

Quite a few ambitions Danes emigrate though, I guess because of these very reasons.

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I left the UK in 2010 and have been working in Scandinavia since - first in Denmark and now in Norway. I have loved it. Cities and towns not populated by aggressive chav scum, with good beers, beautiful women, nice summers, safe & respectful.

You can go there and get a special tax deal as a "Foreign Researcher" and pay 30% tax if you earn over £75k a year. You just need to stay out of the UK so you do not get an extra tax bill from the HMRC.

As a consultant, they give very high day rates, but I would not go staff though, as you are hit by lower standard income and high tax.

I liked it and have been offered a 4 year contract there again .... but it looks like I will take a similar contract in Norway instead. But in Norway you pay over 50% tax, so no additional payments to make in UK and you can come and go to the UK more freely (no 90 day rule).

Google Denmark and immigration .... they were closing the doors to this a few years back, plus to get into their system was a real pain in all the admin etc. you had to complete to get registered/accepted.

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GDP per capita: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Denmark - 14th

UK - 22nd

Economist quality of life index: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_Index

Denmark - 9th

UK - 29th

Quality of living, city rankings: http://www.mercer.com/qualityoflivingpr#city-rankings

Copenhagen - 9th

London - 38th

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Denmark's great.

My brother moved there straight from university and lived there for around 7 years. It is bordering on communist in places - a shop assistant will get the same salary as a fully (albeit newly) qualified product designer, and there's a culture in work where it's quite looked down upon if you try and shake things up 'for the better' (the main reason my brother left). But, there's so much good stuff too...

- great attitude to work/life balance

- no major politics of envy and a more relaxed attitude with and from everyone as a result

- insanely hot women... for me, the best except perhaps Norwegian girls

- focus on the family, which is important for Danes

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I don't know much about Denmark other than the girls are pretty, but the Index of Economic Freedom rates Denmark higher than the UK and it has risen rapidly up the ranks over the last decade. So I doubt it's as socialist an economy as the lefties are making out.

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Yes.

They may be 'safe' and i might eek out another couple of years miserable existence thanks to wonderful heathcare, but id rather live in relatively free gun totin USA than a nordic nanny-o-cracy where I get get sent to re-education camp for metioning the holocaust in a slightly different light, or some other non-crime.

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GDP per capita: http://en.wikipedia....ies_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Denmark - 14th

UK - 22nd

Economist quality of life index: http://en.wikipedia....y-of-life_Index

Denmark - 9th

UK - 29th

Quality of living, city rankings: http://www.mercer.co...r#city-rankings

Copenhagen - 9th

London - 38th

Hey, don't let facts get in the way of a few good rants about "socialism" laugh.gif

I think Denmark has it about right. I doubt most jobs are worth more than a few multiples of a cleaner in reality.

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Oh to be in Denmark, now that April's here.... well, okay it isn't... but you get the point, right?

I do so wish that the labour government had been a truly socialist one rather than that blueish kind of purple monstrosity.

How much a better place this country would have been now if truly Socialist ideals had guided our policy making for the last few administrations.

Can you imagine it?

A country where people are happy to pay their taxes because they get so much back from them, and all earn a liveable wage without the need for state top ups and none earn outrageous sums of money for doing, lets face it... a job.

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How much a better place this country would have been now if truly Socialist ideals had guided our policy making for the last few administrations.

Can you imagine it?

A country where people are happy to pay their taxes because they get so much back from them, and all earn a liveable wage without the need for state top ups and none earn outrageous sums of money for doing, lets face it... a job.

Indeed, sounds like a dream.

Until you realise that some people in Denmark (and elsewhere) are living it.

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I don't know much about Denmark other than the girls are pretty, but the Index of Economic Freedom rates Denmark higher than the UK and it has risen rapidly up the ranks over the last decade. So I doubt it's as socialist an economy as the lefties are making out.

Denmark is a weird place - one can be fired at anytime with flimsy reasons, the person then go on generous state benefit. That is what their 50% tax paid for (unlike the NI in the UK where it has been seen here times and again - is rather not very useful when one really needed the insurance).

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Oh to be in Denmark, now that April's here.... well, okay it isn't... but you get the point, right?

I do so wish that the labour government had been a truly socialist one rather than that blueish kind of purple monstrosity.

How much a better place this country would have been now if truly Socialist ideals had guided our policy making for the last few administrations.

Can you imagine it?

A country where people are happy to pay their taxes because they get so much back from them, and all earn a liveable wage without the need for state top ups and none earn outrageous sums of money for doing, lets face it... a job.

The Denmark system is generally much better for the bottom 80%, but its much worse for the top 5% or so. This should give you a major clue as to why we don't have it here.

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Denmark is a weird place - one can be fired at anytime with flimsy reasons, the person then go on generous state benefit. That is what their 50% tax paid for (unlike the NI in the UK where it has been seen here times and again - is rather not very useful when one really needed the insurance).

Yup but the jobs are so relatively well paid that the incentive to go back to work ASAP is high, unlike the U.K. It's the carrot approach rather than the stick one we use. The lower inequality also makes the society more inclusive so individuals have a greater moral feeling that its 'wrong' to not work and sit on benefits.

Now which system do you think works better? Ours or theirs? (hint look up any and all statistics which impact QOL for us and them)

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The Denmark system is generally much better for the bottom 80%, but its much worse for the top 5% or so. This should give you a major clue as to why we don't have it here.

Lets face it, UK is run exclusively for the benefit of the top 1%. Always has done and always will do, and regardless of whoever is laughably "in power."

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I live in Denmark.

I think Denmark has the same problems as the UK, except they are a lot less. I liken it to the UK 30 years ago maybe socially. I believe Denmark will go down the same road as the UK though.

Right now there is still a sense of community and national identity here

I feel more free than I ever did in London - I don't get searched or have to walk through a metal detector when I go into a bar, there is noone telling me not to take my drink outside, if you get up and dance on the table there is no bouncer coming to throw you out.

In the time I have been here I have not once felt the need to have a car other than when I am moving flat - you can just cycle everywhere, literally. There are more cycles in rush hour than cars. For longer trips or if it is too cold just use the bus. Traffic jams are about 3 cars. As an example there has been about a foot of snow on the ground for 2 weeks now, on the morning after the first and heavyiest night, I got the bus to work - I left at my usual time and still got to work on time. Bus drivers also don't appear to be looked down upon by smug middle class liberals

People working in McDonalds and in petrol stations are usually actually Danish - these places don't appear to be mass illegal immigrant smuggling stations as they are in London. One of the first thing I notice going back to the UK through gatwick airport is the huge signs in the train station telling you that you are on camera/CCTV - it is seriously like 1984. Oh and the fact that invariably the first accent that I hear from an employee at the airport is Polish.

But now their Primeminister is married to some Labour shill so I expect their irresponsible will lead Denmark down the toilet fast, along with the whole of Europe

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