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The British Don't Want To Live In New-Build Homes. No Wonder


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The ridiculously small size of Uk houses hit home to me when I was offered a job in Norway and had started house hunting and came across stuff like this:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.finn.no%2Ffinn%2Frealestate%2Fhomes%2Fobject%3Ffinnkode%3D37694265%26sort%3D2%26PROPERTY_TYPE%3D1%26areaId%3D20146

130 m2, and that is only actual living space. Bathroom, basement and storage space etc. aren't included. Yours for roughly 160k. And these guys are meant to be at the peak of a bubble.

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I was at St Fagans museum of Welsh culture the other day ....and it struck me ...with considerable irony ..while walking around the post war prefab emergency house .....

http://www.museumwal...ildings/prefab/

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.........that this was a considerably more comfortable living space ........than post 90's houses not far from there......... at many multiples of the local av.wage

http://www.zoopla.co...24b06256b9546f0

One thing I have noticed , at least in my area ....... that minimum sizes have increased from the worst period ...which appears to be those built in the late 90,s to early naughties .........,,there are private estates with masses of housing of the same design posted in the zoopla link .....usually in the £130 k bracket ...that one is the lowest price that I've seen ....... the stairs takes up a substantial volume of the interior space of the house ...carefully not photographed ....

I viewed one house whom the owner had squeezed in a couch ......sitting down on it ....watching the TV ......was like sitting in the back seat of a car !

depressing

A prefab would be a step up for me, I would quite like to purchase one!

I'm thinking about container housing, to make moving easier, and perhaps moving every 4 years and just getting temporary permits. With container housing you can emigrate quite easily, along with your house!

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The ridiculously small size of Uk houses hit home to me when I was offered a job in Norway and had started house hunting and came across stuff like this:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.finn.no%2Ffinn%2Frealestate%2Fhomes%2Fobject%3Ffinnkode%3D37694265%26sort%3D2%26PROPERTY_TYPE%3D1%26areaId%3D20146

130 m2, and that is only actual living space. Bathroom, basement and storage space etc. aren't included. Yours for roughly 160k. And these guys are meant to be at the peak of a bubble.

There.

Great link.

It looks like a "self build". (Not in a developers estate). Is it?

It costs around £1k/m2 to build a house. So, 130m2 = £130k. Hence they are valuing that plot at £30k. Reasonable.

Pity we are forbidden from doing the same here.

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One of the things that that does not allure people to new-builds is they tend to be built on so called 'estates'....a road to nowhere, one road in one road out, with very narrow roads, cul-de-sacs and high density building sometimes without walking distance facilities such as a shop, post office, surgery, pub, community buildings etc. ;)

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One of the things that that does not allure people to new-builds is they tend to be built on so called 'estates'....a road to nowhere, one road in one road out, with very narrow roads, cul-de-sacs a...

Very good point. I was recently looking for a home, and stumbled across what looked like quite a nice new development; sensibly sized houses, some with off-road parking, although the plots were very small.

This was a large development, but the entire development was built off a complex array of cul-de-sacs which branched off a single meandering trunk, itself a cul-de-sac.

Google maps

After driving up and down the development a couple of times, I realised that it would intolerable to try to negotiate the double-parked cars and the presumed massive to-and-fro of traffic at rush-hour each morning and evening.

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The 3 golden rules of buying - "postion, position, position" are always valid. The only reason people buy on a new estate, with its too small houses , too small gardens serviced by too small roads, with no green spaces and no thought for the happiness of the occupants, is that they are easy to buy. Its harder to buy a "normal" house with a normal garden, but always worth the effort, IMHO.

If you cannot afford somewhere that will keep you happy, why are you buying, cos sure as eggs are eggs, you won't be selling it again in a hurry.

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One of the things that that does not allure people to new-builds is they tend to be built on so called 'estates'....a road to nowhere, one road in one road out, with very narrow roads, cul-de-sacs and high density building sometimes without walking distance facilities such as a shop, post office, surgery, pub, community buildings etc. ;)

It's really irritating to see this is still the case. "Best practice" and govt guidance has been all about connectiveness and permeability for some time now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_%28spatial_and_transport_planning%29

http://www.dft.gov.uk/publications/manual-for-streets

There really is no excuse for councils to be allowing such remote islands of car dependancy to be built these days.

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Given that crappy sub 100m2 newbuilds for £150k + seem to be the only option for most FTBs I don't understand why a small plot of grazing land with a water supply (many have this for refilling troughs) and a £20k cabin such as this http://www.gardeners-world.net/prod_show.asp?prodid=11420

aren't more common?

It's what I'm preparing to do, spend 5-10 years there whilst saving the 10 grand a year I currently spend on rent and then build something permanent

Compared to forking out 150k for a crap newbuild it really seems like a nobrainer.

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http://www.dft.gov.uk/publications/manual-for-streets

There really is no excuse for councils to be allowing such remote islands of car dependancy to be built these days.

Thanks for that. A really interesting document, showing some very sensible guidance; and some good examples of shockingly bad design, as well as good design.

Amazing, that this was published in 2007, yet the development I saw was still under-construction and hadn't made it onto even 2012 edition maps; yet it ignored pretty much every single point made in that manual.

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A prefab would be a step up for me, I would quite like to purchase one!

I'm thinking about container housing, to make moving easier, and perhaps moving every 4 years and just getting temporary permits. With container housing you can emigrate quite easily, along with your house!

I've lived in a rented container (well several containers joined together) and with a suitable plot and land and temporary buildings permit is something I'd consider.

I have a 60's council flat and need to stand on tip toe to reach the ceiling with hand stretched. I can lift weights.

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my town in the US had a zoning law whereby it was illegal to build a house on less than 2 acres, it was a nice town.

we actually lost our house key on the day we moved in and didn't find it til the day we moved out 5 years later, for 5 years we never locked our front door including going away on holiday for up to a month at a time.

These are the sort of areas Amazon will trial their drone delivery service and call it a great success.

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