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I don't want to advertise for them - but I saw an advert on the back of a bus that made me nearly p**s myself laughing...

Instead of 'Buy to let housing' how about 'buy to let cars' - 33% guaranteed return... just come to our investment seminar etc. etc. :wacko: :angry:

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Fertile Farmland. ;)

I agree that farmland will be the place to be and become ever more important but....I dont see it reaching speculative heights and bursting. I think farmland is for the smart money rather than a bubble

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Not convinced by farmland or apple.

Very soon, if not already, Apple will become uncool. From there to the bottom is very quick.

...er....so what exactly is your definition of a bubble then?

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...er....so what exactly is your definition of a bubble then?

I'm saying they're already the bubble, not the next bubble .... if that makes sense.

The same for property.

Gold/oil etc, I'm not sure.

Govt Bonds .... crazy world.

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I'm saying they're already the bubble, not the next bubble .... if that makes sense.

The same for property.

Gold/oil etc, I'm not sure.

Govt Bonds .... crazy world.

(already happening), but the bubble is interest rates on non-secued debts. Banks trying to push margin, will end up causing more defaults than they intended (and people becoming wise and borrowing less) - leading to the next banking and retail crisis.

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Healthcare. What could be more important to anyone than their health? (apart from a 5 bed house with room for the range rover)

Close. Old age care. All the money and there's loads of 'em.

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Close. Old age care. All the money and there's loads of 'em.

Maybe. But I don't intend to spend an ever-increasing amount on care once I'm already old. I'll just end it. A bubble comes from speculation, health insurance and top-up charges for better treatment of disease for example.

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Close. Old age care. All the money and there's loads of 'em.

Setting up a national chain of funeral homes might not be a bad idea either.

Coffins r Us by Tesco perhaps

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I agree that farmland will be the place to be and become ever more important but....I dont see it reaching speculative heights and bursting. I think farmland is for the smart money rather than a bubble

We've just had one of the wettest summers on record, which has caused an explosion of greenery, yet farmers are being paid NOT to produce food in the UK.

Growth areas are: -

Gambling

Pay Day Loans

Bailiffs

Pawnbrokers

Used Cars

Security

Legal Services

Precious Metal Mining

Auctions

Counselling

Home Shopping

Booze Busters

Law Enforcement

Look out for repossession specialists and all those associated with the industry.

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Maybe. But I don't intend to spend an ever-increasing amount on care once I'm already old. I'll just end it. A bubble comes from speculation, health insurance and top-up charges for better treatment of disease for example.

Ok, old age care and blunderbuss manufacturers.

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Renewal Energy, innit.

I remember reading somewhere (probably Niall Ferguson) that all bubbles have an aspect of being triggered by changes in legislation (and subsidies). Energy definitely ticks that box.

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Renewal Energy, innit.

I remember reading somewhere (probably Niall Ferguson) that all bubbles have an aspect of being triggered by changes in legislation (and subsidies). Energy definitely ticks that box.

Shale gas. Going on right now.

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But short of buying a field, how do go out about getting skin in the game?

Alternatively, if buying a field is the way to go - how do I go about buying this field and then on what basis do I lease it some cheerful son of the soil?

I've looked into this a bit, a lot of the value is from the precise location, details of access rights and the condition of the soil, I think the valuations for farmland are probably even more unreliable than they are for houses, but this could be a good thing if you know something the valuer doesn't.

For smallish plots theres a very good chance you would have to PAY someone to look after it rather than be able to rent it out. And if you leave it to run wild the value will fall due to the cost of cleaning it up.

I noticed a lot of the smaller/cheaper plots have ridiculous covenants attached e.g. first refusal on who can buy the land in future and if you sell it on then 30% goes back to the previous owner.

Generally anything that doesn't include a farmhouse is being sold because the nearby farms don't have a use for it.

Going in as an amateur and buying some scrappy bit of land without a clear idea what it could be used for sounds like a good way to lose a lot of money.

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Renewal Energy, innit.

I remember reading somewhere (probably Niall Ferguson) that all bubbles have an aspect of being triggered by changes in legislation (and subsidies). Energy definitely ticks that box.

Think that's iTulip's theory - at least it was when they postulated the same. Perhaps NF nicked it. Picking the right companies the problem.

Food/Farmland - That's been Jim Rogers' thing for years. Probably not just because of his soft commodities ETFs. My guess is that he'll end up right too. UK farmland has - what - more than tripled in the last few years? Some way to go in other countries though.

IMO, Soros described gold as the 'ultimate' bubble for a very good reason - it's the 'final', 'last' one that forces the printers to eventually make paper money worth holding again, as Volker had to. The Chinese are currently stocking more than 1,000 tonnes a year. That kind of physical demand must eventually overcome the suppression.

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I don't want to advertise for them - but I saw an advert on the back of a bus that made me nearly p**s myself laughing...

Instead of 'Buy to let housing' how about 'buy to let cars' - 33% guaranteed return... just come to our investment seminar etc. etc. :wacko: :angry:

I'd have thought that scam would have died a death by now - there's a thread about it here:

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=180443

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Military machinery bubble :huh::o

why? do you think that people will speculate and rush to buy stock in military hardware but for some reason when it gets used :o that stock would plummet?

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