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Has anyone else decided to give up on the car when the current one conks out? I have.

I have been driving bmw 320ds recently and they are a pleasure to drive, I don't think I could go

back to one of those cars that looks like a woman's backside.

The car owner is like a sitting target these days for taxing to death.

You buy one new and get hit with 17.5% tax, just for wanting a car.

Then there is the road tax.

Then insurance.

Then insurance premium tax.

Then cost of fuel.

Then fuel duty.

Then VAT on the cost of fuel and fuel duty.

Then MOT costs.

Then service or yearly repair costs.

VAT on service and yearly repair costs.

Roadside recovery annual fee.

VAT/Insurance premium tax on roadside recovery annual fee.

Then the 3 yearly vandalising of the car, either tyres slashed or a giant phallus sprayed on it, or if you leave it in

the city centre "climate criminal" scratched on the side.

I quit. You can always hire one for like 20 quid a day if you need it.

Make that 20%.

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6 weeks selling cars has actually put me off cars for life.

webuyanycar was in the same building as carcraft and I'd frequently chat to the customers while they sold their car.

Wasn't unusual for someone to be selling a 3 year old car, having lost 18k on a 25k purchase

I just couldn't believe it.

When I gave back my company car I bought a 1999 ford fiesta with 95k on it for £595, I will run it til it breaks and then buy another cheap car.

I have a rule that I only buy cars out of cash I actually have.. it does make you far more conscious of the effort involved in raising the cash for a car. Unfortunate truth is that if you live in North Somerset as I do, a car is a requirement given that all the railways in the region have been dismantled..

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Wasn't unusual for someone to be selling a 3 year old car, having lost 18k on a 25k purchase

I just couldn't believe it.

And yet people keep doing it! You'd think after getting burned once they'd stop, but no, they just keep doing it repeatedly. If they're lazy/stupid enough to then sell it even more cheaply to We Buy Any Car rather than sell themselves then stuff 'em. Still, if it wasn't for these idiots we wouldn't be able to pick up used cars so cheaply. Recently bought a rather nice Subaru Legacy estate which was £30k new for £3500 (2006 model). Amazing amount of car for the money (don't do many miles so don't care much about fuel consumption).

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And yet people keep doing it! You'd think after getting burned once they'd stop, but no, they just keep doing it repeatedly. If they're lazy/stupid enough to then sell it even more cheaply to We Buy Any Car rather than sell themselves then stuff 'em. Still, if it wasn't for these idiots we wouldn't be able to pick up used cars so cheaply. Recently bought a rather nice Subaru Legacy estate which was £30k new for £3500 (2006 model). Amazing amount of car for the money (don't do many miles so don't care much about fuel consumption).

Most of them have tried selling their car for several weeks/months before resorting to webuyanycar.

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I've been looking at two year leases on a Mercedes SLK 250CDI at a £100 per month more than my £170 month Renault Clio I am well tempted.

I'll be cutting down on my mobile contract and the wife's gym membership that should just about cover the difference.

:D

Leasing cars is great until its time to hand it back. When you know that the Finance co valuer will arrive with a microscope to rattle you out of £100s of pounds in wear and tear.

I had an Audi A3 on a lease and never really relaxed with the car.

You're s'posed to enjoy it right?? :unsure: When i finally got shot of it to a local non dealer Audi specialist i was very relieved I even had to give the guy a cheque for £150 as a balancing payment. The Finance company valuer would have had me at £200 just for the odd scratch on the alloys. Never mind the odd scratch here and there. I did have anOther lease car, straight after that however. A Focus. The difference being it was too good a deal to refuse and the balloon payment was nearly a third of the Audi.

So i knew form day one that i would buy the car off of Ford at the end. Made all the difference to the enjoyment of having a new car. Still got it now.

Wont ever buy another new car though. Either for cash or via a lease.

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I've been looking at two year leases on a Mercedes SLK 250CDI at a £100 per month more than my £170 month Renault Clio I am well tempted.

I'll be cutting down on my mobile contract and the wife's gym membership that should just about cover the difference.

:D

Yeah but it's no good driving an open top car about with a fat missus! :P

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Leasing cars is great until its time to hand it back. When you know that the Finance co valuer will arrive with a microscope to rattle you out of £100s of pounds in wear and tear.

I had an Audi A3 on a lease and never really relaxed with the car.

You're s'posed to enjoy it right?? :unsure: When i finally got shot of it to a local non dealer Audi specialist i was very relieved I even had to give the guy a cheque for £150 as a balancing payment. The Finance company valuer would have had me at £200 just for the odd scratch on the alloys. Never mind the odd scratch here and there. I did have anOther lease car, straight after that however. A Focus. The difference being it was too good a deal to refuse and the balloon payment was nearly a third of the Audi.

So i knew form day one that i would buy the car off of Ford at the end. Made all the difference to the enjoyment of having a new car. Still got it now.

Wont ever buy another new car though. Either for cash or via a lease.

Good point, I didn't think that one through. It'll be like hiring a car for the w/end only longer and looking after those does play heavily on my mind. ;)

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Wasn't unusual for someone to be selling a 3 year old car, having lost 18k on a 25k purchase

Yeah, its only money and as you can't take it with you why not spend it on something you enjoy?

I'd sooner spend my money on a car than go on an overpriced holiday that becomes nothing but a memory the day you return. Or two or three pints a night, or a packet of cigarettes a day, or an overpriced seat at a football stadium.

Each to their own. b

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Most of them have tried selling their car for several weeks/months before resorting to webuyanycar.

Is it a case of advertising a car for a month for £7,000 no interest then dropping to £6,500 still no interest then giving up and selling in to we buy any car for £4,000 rather than reducing the price to something in-between?

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Is it a case of advertising a car for a month for £7,000 no interest then dropping to £6,500 still no interest then giving up and selling in to we buy any car for £4,000 rather than reducing the price to something in-between?

I would imagine so. One person at work put his 5+ year old car up for sale yesterday on the internal ad site. Its on for just under £8k but realistically cannot be worth more than £6k given that I would value mine at that and its 6 months younger, better spec and condition with fewer miles.

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Is it a case of advertising a car for a month for £7,000 no interest then dropping to £6,500 still no interest then giving up and selling in to we buy any car for £4,000 rather than reducing the price to something in-between?

Most of them had tried selling it at a certain price for however many weeks, decided to see how much Webuy would offer, get pissed off with webuys offer, stomp around the building, decide it's better to take 3k less than they wanted for an immediate sale.

I don't think the majority have tried a lower price privately.

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What I don't think sellers to 'webuyanycar' realise is that they aren't dealers. They then sell your car on, at a profit into the trade, or, worst case if you manage to palm off a lemon, they send it to auction.

In 2010, I sold a car on ebay, for god's sake, for more than those jokers offered. Using webuyanycar must be for the truly naive or the desperate who need cash fast.

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What I don't think sellers to 'webuyanycar' realise is that they aren't dealers. They then sell your car on, at a profit into the trade, or, worst case if you manage to palm off a lemon, they send it to auction.

In 2010, I sold a car on ebay, for god's sake, for more than those jokers offered. Using webuyanycar must be for the truly naive or the desperate who need cash fast.

Their prices are shameful, carcraft also had a buyer for anything 07 or newer and he'd always offer 500 over what webuy offer.

Surprising the amount of high end cars they'd purchase though, range rovers, bentleys etc

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What I don't think sellers to 'webuyanycar' realise is that they aren't dealers. They then sell your car on, at a profit into the trade, or, worst case if you manage to palm off a lemon, they send it to auction.

In 2010, I sold a car on ebay, for god's sake, for more than those jokers offered. Using webuyanycar must be for the truly naive or the desperate who need cash fast.

...or the lazy. It really is like taking candy from a baby. How many people seem to just hand over large amounts of cash without much thought as to the true cost? - massive new car depreciation, selling to Webuyanycar for even less, IO mortgages, MEW, PPI, pay day loans...it just goes on and on and people just keep doing it again and again. People can't be arsed to think and our economy now seems to be reliant on this ******wittery.

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What I don't think sellers to 'webuyanycar' realise is that they aren't dealers. They then sell your car on, at a profit into the trade, or, worst case if you manage to palm off a lemon, they send it to auction.

In 2010, I sold a car on ebay, for god's sake, for more than those jokers offered. Using webuyanycar must be for the truly naive or the desperate who need cash fast.

But the people on the advert are so happy! And besides, it's "risk free" (not sure what the risks involved in selling a car actually are but I'm sure that webuyanycar will have planted lots of horror stories in the compliant media, who also carry their adverts, to remind me).

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But the people on the advert are so happy! And besides, it's "risk free" (not sure what the risks involved in selling a car actually are but I'm sure that webuyanycar will have planted lots of horror stories in the compliant media, who also carry their adverts, to remind me).

To be fair to WBAC, I needed rid of my 198,000 miles, next to no mot, engine nearly gone, bald-tired, completely ******ed Z3, and I had no heart to sell it to anyone privately, and they matched the online offer (for which I added all the bad bits).

However, if I were to sell a near new, low mileage car, they'll be the last place I'd go to.

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To be fair to WBAC, I needed rid of my 198,000 miles, next to no mot, engine nearly gone, bald-tired, completely ******ed Z3, and I had no heart to sell it to anyone privately, and they matched the online offer (for which I added all the bad bits).

However, if I were to sell a near new, low mileage car, they'll be the last place I'd go to.

I think in Ebay parlance for BMW six-pot sales, the correct phrase is 'barely broken in'. Unless it was a 1.8 of course.

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...or the lazy. It really is like taking candy from a baby. How many people seem to just hand over large amounts of cash without much thought as to the true cost? - massive new car depreciation, selling to Webuyanycar for even less, IO mortgages, MEW, PPI, pay day loans...it just goes on and on and people just keep doing it again and again. People can't be arsed to think and our economy now seems to be reliant on this ******wittery.

Nail. Head. Hit.

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Oops, quite right. Interesting the fours don't last as long, despite having fewer moving parts. Guess they are revved more, by design or otherwise...

To be fair to the poor thing, I drove it like I stole it pretty much all the time, and it's been uber reliable and dependable. It was on its last legs though. You are right, the six pots are pretty much H-bomb proof.

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For many people selling a car is easy .. but not for me .. I am in the parlance a "nutter magnet" .. I had a 20 year old LandRover with 280,000 on the clock and almost no part of the car did not need some work. I was considering giving it away, but didn't want to list all the problems it had. While I was wrestling with this problem and the Tax was running out there came a knock on the door. This awful bloke who kept standing way too close and had terribly bad breath, told me he was a car dealer and he wanted to buy my landrover. I told him it had lots of issues but he told me he knew the "best mechanics in the buisness" and they would fix it up a treat .. He would give me £350 for it then and there ..

I told him to look over it, make sure he was happy with what he was buying. He told me he already had. we filled out the papers .. receipt "Sold as seen" .. off he goes .. I thank the lord ..

Five days later he reappears, the car is shit the mileage is very high, it's rusty Yada yada yada .. and he wants his money back. I tell him I'm sorry he does not like his car but he bought it as seen and I did tell him it had lots of problems I remind him that he is a car dealer, I've sent the papers to the DVLA and I don't want to see the car again .. He tells me he has mates who are gyppos and they will torch my house if I don't give him his money back. I tell him I'm going to inform the police of the threats. I inform the police that he has threatened me.

This was about three years ago and since then whenever he has seen me (usually in the coffee shop) he has shouted out to all and sundry that I owe him £350 and I have to leave in a hurry ..

Every car I have ever sold has been a nightmare .. so I only buy a car I'm going to keep and then give it away when I'm finished with it ..

But the people on the advert are so happy! And besides, it's "risk free" (not sure what the risks involved in selling a car actually are but I'm sure that webuyanycar will have planted lots of horror stories in the compliant media, who also carry their adverts, to remind me).

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I Finally emerged from the bunker yesterday and took the tin hat off and decided my 3 and a half year fiesta with 55 thousand miles needed renewed i went to the garage and requested a trade in price and was surprised they offered my 4500 trade in as i only had 1500 to buy the car and own it outright.

So 3k towards deposit plus the 3k i had saved up so 6k down on a new fiesta at just over 11k run the finance please i said.

5 mins later sorry sir computer says no :o

This confirms my theory that the car industry is or is about to crash due to no finance available, i have reverted to plan B Keep my money and run it till it goes to the scrap yard with luck and regular servicing i hope to get another 5 years out of it.

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