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I work as a leafleter for a well know estate agent (I'm putting myself through University)

So I get to hear a lot of the shannanigans that goes on behind the scenes

One of the most popular things at the moment as far as I can see is the false "SOLD" sign, it's being used ,so they say, to keep an artificial stimulus in the market so people still believe they have to buy before they miss the boat. I'm not sure if these false buys are also being put through on the statistics as real sold thereby massaging the figures.

All I can say is do not believe the statistics, I hear what they say behind the scenes they are bricking thier little estate agent pants. One said to me the other day when I asked what area they wanted me to leaflet "Just do flats on busy main roads...Nothing else is selling!!!"

Just thought you might be interested.

Also New Labour are onto this site...It's an extention of the "astro turf" phenomanon that is used on local newspapers where they write to the letters page to give a fake grass roots message. I know this because my friend (bless him) works for the new labour machine.

Take care and don't belive the fake statistics.

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I work as a leafleter for a well know estate agent (I'm putting myself through University)

So I get to hear a lot of the shannanigans that goes on behind the scenes

One of the most popular things at the moment as far as I can see is the false "SOLD" sign, it's being used ,so they say, to keep an artificial stimulus in the market so people still believe they have to buy before they miss the boat. I'm not sure if these false buys are also being put through on the statistics as real sold thereby massaging the figures.

All I can say is do not believe the statistics, I hear what they say behind the scenes they are bricking thier little estate agent pants. One said to me the other day when I asked what area they wanted me to leaflet "Just do flats on busy main roads...Nothing else is selling!!!"

Just thought you might be interested.

Also New Labour are onto this site...It's an extention of the "astro turf" phenomanon that is used on local newspapers where they write to the letters page to give a fake grass roots message. I know this because my friend (bless him) works for the new labour machine.

Take care and don't belive the fake statistics.

Which area of the country are you?

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Also New Labour are onto this site...It's an extention of the "astro turf" phenomanon that is used on local newspapers where they write to the letters page to give a fake grass roots message. I know this because my friend (bless him) works for the new labour machine.

Take care and don't belive the fake statistics.

Well, there's a surprise.

I never would have thought that.

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Also New Labour are onto this site...It's an extention of the "astro turf" phenomanon that is used on local newspapers where they write to the letters page to give a fake grass roots message.

Thanks for the post Caligari. :) Can you elaborate on the above in any way, I'm not too sure what you're trying to get across.

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Might explain the parlous state of debate and logical thought on the bull side.

Apart from my irony, there is a very serious point here.

Many, including myself and others here who have said similar, are starting to think that this 'net thingy is one of the best things that we "plebes" have ever got our sticky little fingers on.

"Movers and shakers" do not like. I can talk to people virtually (sorry) anywhere.

"Knowledge is power". Real knowledge is now available to those who seek it.

Oh dear, where will it all end.

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New Labour - you are just so very, very sad.

Dear Editor/Webmaster

Nu Labour are not infiltrating this website.Thats utter nonsense, don't believe it.We are not even aware of it's existent

Yours faithfully

Alistair Campbell

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One of the most popular things at the moment as far as I can see is the false "SOLD" sign, it's being used, so they say, to keep an artificial stimulus in the market so people still believe they have to buy before they miss the boat. I'm not sure if these false buys are also being put through on the statistics as real sold thereby massaging the figures.

Interesting. I am keeping an eye on a house near me that was on the market for 2 years up until 2 months ago when a SOLD sign appeared. I am convinced it is not actually sold and am expecting to see a FOR SALE sign to reappear anytime soon.

Mind you, it last sold 3 years ago for 180K after having been sold in 1998 for 80K. It has since been on at 450K and was last advertised at 350K.

Many, including myself and others here who have said similar, are starting to think that this 'net thingy is one of the best things that we "plebes" have ever got our sticky little fingers on.

"Movers and shakers" do not like. I can talk to people virtually (sorry) anywhere.

"Knowledge is power". Real knowledge is now available to those who seek it.

Oh dear, where will it all end.

Perhaps this is the reason behind Labour plans to crack down on Internet porn. Stop people, contrary to Human Rights Act, viewing adult material if they are adult one day. The next you crack down freedom of expression that the 'Net has become.

UK Politicians love the BBC because they can control it - always have done because the BBC is dependent on the goodwill of politicians for its existent. In fact, the old ITV franchises used to be in an identical situation and hence why you have endless grey politicians in grey suits talking rubbish that no one watches.

They hate the Internet because they can't control it unlike, perhaps, those they now envy in that most democractic of countries - China.

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"Also New Labour are onto this site...It's an extention of the "astro turf" phenomanon that is used on local newspapers where they write to the letters page to give a fake grass roots message."

DO nulab all post from the same IP address?

*WAVES*

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Apart from my irony, there is a very serious point here.

Many, including myself and others here who have said similar, are starting to think that this 'net thingy is one of the best things that we "plebes" have ever got our sticky little fingers on.

"Movers and shakers" do not like. I can talk to people virtually (sorry) anywhere.

"Knowledge is power". Real knowledge is now available to those who seek it.

Oh dear, where will it all end.

Call me stupid, but I don't even bother to read the news anymore. Everything is distilled right here on a daily basis. The great thing is there are always a variety of viewpoints on any news story here, so I get to see it from a number of different angles.

Thanks! :)

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Call me stupid, but I don't even bother to read the news anymore.

Ditto. I'll hear about anything important on the Net before long and with far better coverage. It's no wonder that the politico scum of the world want to destroy free speech here.

For example, once ID cards are forced on us, don't expect to wait long before ID cards are required to register for ISP accounts and for discussion forums in the UK. No more anonymous posting, every post will be trackable to you.

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One of the most popular things at the moment as far as I can see is the false "SOLD" sign, it's being used ,so they say, to keep an artificial stimulus in the market so people still believe they have to buy before they miss the boat.

What do the people who own the properties where these signs go up think? They know it's not sold, and wouldn't they be a tad annoyed that potential buyers might not bother viewing because "it's sold"?

Peter.

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Is this the same Caligari from the Motley Fool boards? Has posted some useful links in the past over there.

:)

Edited by KickThemInThePant

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What do the people who own the properties where these signs go up think? They know it's not sold, and wouldn't they be a tad annoyed that potential buyers might not bother viewing because "it's sold"?

Peter.

Follow an estate agent`s employee home and I bet they have a Sold sign outside their house.

In the seventies a local Estate Agent always had a sold sign outside his house for years, right on a busy main road. :)

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Follow an estate agent`s employee home and I bet they have a Sold sign outside their house.

In the seventies a local Estate Agent always had a sold sign outside his house for years, right on a busy main road. :)

Ah! I wonder if it's in the terms and conditions of their employment? :D

Peter.

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Blue Peter

What do the people who own the properties where these signs go up think? They know it's not sold, and wouldn't they be a tad annoyed that potential buyers might not bother viewing because "it's sold"?

Cusomter to EA -"What have you got on your books?"

EA to new customer. "Oh look here's one that is suitable and is unexpectedly back on the market, it did sell, we haven't has time to take the board down"

Customer thinks -"Umm, if somebody ele wanted to buy it then it must have been a reasonable deal"

Then Customer thinks "Ahh, maybe there was something wrong with it?"

Customer to EA -"What was wrong with it for the sale to fall through?"

EA to Customer = "Oh nothing, buyers coundn't sell their property, finance was a problem, yada yada"

Customer - "When can I see it?"

Job done.

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I work as a leafleter for a well know estate agent (I'm putting myself through University)

So I get to hear a lot of the shannanigans that goes on behind the scenes

One of the most popular things at the moment as far as I can see is the false "SOLD" sign, it's being used ,so they say, to keep an artificial stimulus in the market so people still believe they have to buy before they miss the boat. I'm not sure if these false buys are also being put through on the statistics as real sold thereby massaging the figures.

All I can say is do not believe the statistics, I hear what they say behind the scenes they are bricking thier little estate agent pants. One said to me the other day when I asked what area they wanted me to leaflet "Just do flats on busy main roads...Nothing else is selling!!!"

Just thought you might be interested.

Also New Labour are onto this site...It's an extention of the "astro turf" phenomanon that is used on local newspapers where they write to the letters page to give a fake grass roots message. I know this because my friend (bless him) works for the new labour machine.

Take care and don't belive the fake statistics.

I tend to agree with you. There's a great discrepency I believe between what I'm seeing and hearing from friends/colleagues and what is reported by statistics in the media.

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Blue Peter

What do the people who own the properties where these signs go up think? They know it's not sold, and wouldn't they be a tad annoyed that potential buyers might not bother viewing because "it's sold"?

Cusomter to EA -"What have you got on your books?"

EA to new customer. "Oh look here's one that is suitable and is unexpectedly back on the market, it did sell, we haven't has time to take the board down"

Customer thinks -"Umm, if somebody ele wanted to buy it then it must have been a reasonable deal"

Then Customer thinks "Ahh, maybe there was something wrong with it?"

Customer to EA -"What was wrong with it for the sale to fall through?"

EA to Customer = "Oh nothing, buyers coundn't sell their property, finance was a problem, yada yada"

Customer - "When can I see it?"

Job done.

You old cynic you! ;)

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Follow an estate agent`s employee home and I bet they have a Sold sign outside their house.

In the seventies a local Estate Agent always had a sold sign outside his house for years, right on a busy main road. :)

If I followed an EA home, I'd be worried about being led underground into the depths of hell. :)

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Siegfried Kracauer in his book 'From Caligari to Hitler' played its part as a forewarning of the terrors of National Socialism.

"Caligari" writes Dr Kracauer, exposes the soul wavering between tyranny and chaos". Indeed, at the heart of Dr Caligari is the theme of authority turning the populace into dutiful zombies.

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