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Will have to put my savings / House buying plans on hold now.

Have just been told today that i'm out of a job, due to my company losing a service contract, I was last in so I'm first out, and all I got was my bus fare home.....Seriously !!

I was a Service engineer, on catering equipment, mechanical and a bit of electrical work, out on the road most of the time which I liked.

Just considering re training, and what are people's opinion on the IT industry at present ?

I quite fancy training as a network engineer, but not office based, I like to get out and about.

To anybody in the know:-

1/ Is there still a decent living to be earned in the IT industry, or has every Tom, Dick, and Harry getting into it brought the wages down ?

2/ Is there much work about at the moment ?

3/ What is a good qualification to get / have as a starting point ?

I want to get back into work ASAP instead of claiming dole and slowly sinking into desperation and depression, I've seen it happen to freinds and its not nice.

So fellow HPC'ers any help, views, advice would be much appreciated.

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Have just been told today that i'm out of a job, due to my company losing a service contract, I was last in so I'm first out, and all I got was my bus fare home.....Seriously !!

Bummer!

Sorry to hear that.

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Will have to put my savings / House buying plans on hold now.

Have just been told today that i'm out of a job, due to my company losing a service contract, I was last in so I'm first out, and all I got was my bus fare home.....Seriously !!

I was a Service engineer, on catering equipment, mechanical and a bit of electrical work, out on the road most of the time which I liked.

Just considering re training, and what are people's opinion on the IT industry at present ?

I quite fancy training as a network engineer, but not office based, I like to get out and about.

To anybody in the know:-

1/ Is there still a decent living to be earned in the IT industry, or has every Tom, Dick, and Harry getting into it brought the wages down ?

2/ Is there much work about at the moment ?

3/ What is a good qualification to get / have as a starting point ?

I want to get back into work ASAP instead of claiming dole and slowly sinking into desperation and depression, I've seen it happen to freinds and its not nice.

So fellow HPC'ers any help, views, advice would be much appreciated.

Networking good idea. heard on the radio saying there will be shortage of network Pros. and they were talking about Cisco specifically.

Good luck with job search/re-training.

why do not you get back what you paid in the form of NI ? just a thought. chill out.

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FaTB,

It is definitely getting tougher out there, never nice to be at the sharp end.

Any chance that the company that won the service contract have winged the quote and don't have the resources to carry out the work? You'd be an ideal candidate if they were short-staffed.

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sorry youve lost your job.

i am not an IT guy, so others will advise you on opportunities to retrain in IT

all i would say is that people with a positive attitude will come through difficult situations.

you obviously have a decent skills set and I am sure that you will find something good

it is an opportunity to rethink direction. the realities of needing to make a living often limit your ability to take the time to find such a career change.

good luck

the don

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FaTB, really sorry to hear that mate.

I'm nothing to do with IT so wouldn't be able to comment on that, but my dad has worked as a service engineer for the past 30 years. He does hardware (servers and printers) and ATMs. A lot of Dell work.

The way I see it, and others on here may well disagree with me, but you're always going to need someone to do the graft. The machines make us rich, so someone has to make sure that the machines keep working!

Your line of work really can't be outsourced. You might have to look around for a while to find something new, I wouldn't know.

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Commiserations FaTB - bad news indeed. Polish up the CV, get on the phone to contacts and stuff like that and may the force go with you into a new opportunity.

I agree about the dole - it's great that it's there for desperate times, but it does nothing for your confidence, morale or motivation.

There's probably only one way in which it could have been worse - you could have bought property this year - how would that have been for timing ?

:rolleyes:

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Will have to put my savings / House buying plans on hold now.

Have just been told today that i'm out of a job, due to my company losing a service contract, I was last in so I'm first out, and all I got was my bus fare home.....Seriously !!

I was a Service engineer, on catering equipment, mechanical and a bit of electrical work, out on the road most of the time which I liked.

Just considering re training, and what are people's opinion on the IT industry at present ?

I quite fancy training as a network engineer, but not office based, I like to get out and about.

To anybody in the know:-

1/ Is there still a decent living to be earned in the IT industry, or has every Tom, Dick, and Harry getting into it brought the wages down ?

2/ Is there much work about at the moment ?

3/ What is a good qualification to get / have as a starting point ?

I want to get back into work ASAP instead of claiming dole and slowly sinking into desperation and depression, I've seen it happen to freinds and its not nice.

So fellow HPC'ers any help, views, advice would be much appreciated.

I work in the network industry as a software engineer. I make a really good wage, on the other hand I have two degrees and a fair bit of experience. I think there is plenty of work around if you're good, and a lot of networking work still has to be done on site and so can't easily be outsourced.

If you want to be a network engineer, from what I have seen (this is not exactly my job) you should be level headed, personable, genuinely interested in the technology, logically minded, and prepared to travel.

A good starting qualification might be CCNA. It is quite highly regarded I think. With this qualification and a bit of experience you'll then be qualified to set up small business networks and troubleshoot basic issues. It leads on via a series of more challenging courses to bigger networks and more sophisticated technologies and issues.

hope this helps and best of luck!

frugalista

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Thanks for your replies, but don't feel to sorry for me.

I fortunately still live with parents, I have no debt or kids to worry about, and have a bit in the bank, so i'm not going to be out on the street.

But his will put a halt to, and eat into my savings, if I don't find something soon.

Never know it may turn out for the best, as it will force me to change direction, it made the decision for me.

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If you're choosing a new career, it's usually good to look for skills that are growing in demand, but where the barriers to entry are high.

That way as the demand increases, wages rise, but new entrants are excluded from the market.

That is the trouble with much of the IT industry, any fool could learn HTML.

It is in the interests of companies to keep these barriers low.

However a sh!t hot C++ programmer with derivatives experience can practically write their own salary, but there are few people around with these skills, and fewer with the ability to learn them.

Play to your strengths...

Edited by BandWagon

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There's probably only one way in which it could have been worse - you could have bought property this year - how would that have been for timing ?

:rolleyes:

I very nearly did buy earlier this year, but decided against, I had a feeling in my water. :)

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Thanks for your replies, but don't feel to sorry for me.

I fortunately still live with parents, I have no debt or kids to worry about, and have a bit in the bank, so i'm not going to be out on the street.

But his will put a halt to, and eat into my savings, if I don't find something soon.

Never know it may turn out for the best, as it will force me to change direction, it made the decision for me.

I admire your outlook FaTB.

Best of luck!

NDL

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A good starting qualification might be CCNA. It is quite highly regarded I think. With this qualification and a bit of experience you'll then be qualified to set up small business networks and troubleshoot basic issues. It leads on via a series of more challenging courses to bigger networks and more sophisticated technologies and issues.

hope this helps and best of luck!

frugalista

Thanks frugalista just the sort of info i'm after.

Will look into the CCNA thing. :)

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Sorry to hear that.

The CCNA is a good qualification, I did it last year. As said above, from here you can get into network security which pays good money - for the moment.

As someone else said though, play to your strengths.

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Sorry to hear about your bad news FatB. For me, your first priority is to get yourself onto an agency - there should be some that specialise in your field. In the meantime, not worth signing on, see if you can find some casual work to keep you busy perhaps - put the feelers out.

I did just the above after getting made redundant and it worked out great - 6 weeks working on a farm (!), then a temporary job (via agency) then onto a full-time job at another company through the same agency.

It sounds a real cliche, but being made redundant was the best thing to happen to me career-wise (no joke) but the actual process was horrible. Good luck whatever you do.

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I'm 33, do you consider that young ?

it's not old certainly.

by 'young' i mean < 25 yrs. i wondered because you mentioned that you live at home which is unusual for someone of your advancing years. given that you are not young by my definition, what i had to say is irrelevant really. best of luck securing more work anyway.

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Hey, what about joining the police ? My sister is in the force and married to a copper - she absolutely loves it - she's gone on to do a law degree, taken her sergants exam and must be on 28 by now i guess - more than me anyway

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The problem with IT nowadays is that most positions require previous commercial experience. It could be humbling to start at an entry level job at 33, not so bad if you're 21 and fresh out of university.

Having said that skilled network engineers can get a good salary.

Look on jobserve.co.uk and you will see what I mean.

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Hi FatB,

Sorry to hear the news. You could use any spare time you have to get on the net, and check out what deals banks are offering, and whether you're getting the best for your savings / car insurance / phone etc... Kind of a 'downsizing the costs' exercise. I've been doing this over the months, and it's surprisingly time consuming!

If you wanted to go the 'other side' of IT (software development) you really have to want to do it, and it doesn't involve getting out and about. Have a look at www.joelonsoftware.com and at the forum there if you want to speak to people about this.

:)

PS. I worked with a 40-yo guy at my first company, who had spent ten years as a kind of sea-front pubs & clubs singer/entertainer on the Blackpool circuit. He knew Visual Basic and got hired for a junior role at that age.

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You could retrain, but its not neccesarily that easy as most employers are looking for some experience.

I've worked in network and information security for quite a while.

It can be very lucrative, but its not something that is very easy to train into.

Cisco certification is pricey, but would be a good way to get into network engineering. You can side step into security disciplines from there.

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In the meantime, not worth signing on, see if you can find some casual work to keep you busy perhaps - put the feelers out.

If I were you I'd sign on straight away .

Just one week's missing NI contribution could , in future years , mean the non payment of any State pension .

We don't know future rules .

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