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Just watching the TV and how they make wings at Airbus here. Immensely complex, engineered and built by a highly skilled British workforce. The wings are tested for a lifespan of 65 years at Dresden, the equipment and tubes and pipes that go into each wing, the testing, the detail and micron tolerances, pretty amazing stuff. Wings are apparently designed to move 4 metres in flight when they take the load of turbulance and landing. As for the A380, the fuel is pumped around the wings and tail to maintain the aircraft's balance and gravity centre during flight, the fuel is constantly moved around. It would take 6 days to fill the plane's tanks at a petrol station but they have developed a system to fill the tanks on the wings etc in just 45 minutes. All done by us here in Britain. Who says we can't manufacture anything? Except what we now need is something they can't make for less abroad...not so easy that bit

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This doesn't fit in with 'We dont build anything in Britain anymore and there are no jobs' depression that many around here seem to suffer from. :lol:

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It is a bit depressing that we have had such an obsession with debt and HPI over the last 15+ years. Without that and the resultant overhang of masses of public and private debt - I reckon the UK could actually be sitting pretty at present. :(

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Inflating, I watched the same programme. Absolutely amazing!

From the technical detail, to the testing and construction of the Airbus, truly wonderful stuff.

Also, the fact that the UK has the second largest aviation manufacturing base and employs 250,000 people....Blimey!

If anyone missed this last night definitely watch it when it is repeated or shown again on BBC i Player.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business-news/business-news/2011/11/11/bbc-airbus-documentary-takes-flight-on-sunday-55578-29756430/

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Inflating, I watched the same programme. Absolutely amazing!

From the technical detail, to the testing and construction of the Airbus, truly wonderful stuff.

Also, the fact that the UK has the second largest aviation manufacturing base and employs 250,000 people....Blimey!

If anyone missed this last night definitely watch it when it is repeated or shown again on BBC i Player.

http://www.dailypost...55578-29756430/

Dont be posting that on the main forum. You will probably be virtually lynched.

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Dont be posting that on the main forum. You will probably be virtually lynched.

Still a pretty small overall proportion of the workforce involved in manufacturing. The level hasn't dropped like people think it has, it's just become pretty efficient, rather like agriculture (produce more food than ever with hardly anyone working at it).

It is a bit depressing that we have had such an obsession with debt and HPI over the last 15+ years. Without that and the resultant overhang of masses of public and private debt - I reckon the UK could actually be sitting pretty at present. :(

I suppose without it (and other countries doing the same) we'd possibly have stayed put and the overseas increases wouldn't have been so dramatic.

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Still a pretty small overall proportion of the workforce involved in manufacturing. The level hasn't dropped like people think it has, it's just become pretty efficient, rather like agriculture (produce more food than ever with hardly anyone working at it).

I suppose without it (and other countries doing the same) we'd possibly have stayed put and the overseas increases wouldn't have been so dramatic.

Indeed. But I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. We still have a sizeable chunk. Very different to what many people think.

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Dont be posting that on the main forum. You will probably be virtually lynched.

I don't think there is any question of wanting Britain to success or do well, but to do so in the right things and in the right areas.

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Indeed. But I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. We still have a sizeable chunk. Very different to what many people think.

2.6 million people in the UK work in manufacturing.... working population is 29 million, so that's just under 10%, not that small a number

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2.6 million people in the UK work in manufacturing.... working population is 29 million, so that's just under 10%, not that small a number

The figures are a bit misleading. Back in the 70's a manufacturer would typically employ all its administrative staff - HR, advertising, recruitment, occupational hygiene, legal, accounting etc. Whilst directly employed they are classed as manufacturing jobs. Contract them out to stand alone suppliers and they become service industries

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As for the A380, the fuel is pumped around the wings and tail to maintain the aircraft's balance and gravity centre during flight, the fuel is constantly moved around. It would take 6 days to fill the plane's tanks at a petrol station but they have developed a system to fill the tanks on the wings etc in just 45 minutes. All done by us here in Britain.

Uh, Concorde was doing that in the 70s. I don't know how it compares, but apparently it moved 20 tons of fuel from tank to tank between taxiing out to the runway and hitting Mach 2.

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WE certainly make lots of 'bits' of aircraft here.

I've been fortunate to have seen several of the sites.. Rolls Royce in Derby, Airbus (wings) up in Broughton, Joint strike fighter fuselage sections in BAE Samlesbury, similarly Eurofighter.

A lot of it is very high tech and very impressive (particularly the JSF and certain techniques they use to make bits for the Eurofighter), other pracitices I have witnessed.. I won't go into details :lol:

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I've seen Rolls Royce in Derby, too.

Away from the large-scale, the UK actually does ok with small-scale (semiconductors). Certainly down Cambridge way and up here in Edinburgh there are several companies. Times are tough and people are getting fired, plus there's global wage balancing and trying to make a profit when the East is producing cheap chips, but at least it's still here... for now. Shame they don't do programmes on semiconductors because it's pretty interesting!

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It is a bit depressing that we have had such an obsession with debt and HPI over the last 15+ years. Without that and the resultant overhang of masses of public and private debt - I reckon the UK could actually be sitting pretty at present. :(

I think as probably has been said here before - they made houses and the cost of living here so expensive that we cannot compete as manufacturers generally because the salaries have moved so high to go some way to match the inflated prices - treasure island as it's called here

Inflating, I watched the same programme. Absolutely amazing!

From the technical detail, to the testing and construction of the Airbus, truly wonderful stuff.

Also, the fact that the UK has the second largest aviation manufacturing base and employs 250,000 people....Blimey!

If anyone missed this last night definitely watch it when it is repeated or shown again on BBC i Player.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business-news/business-news/2011/11/11/bbc-airbus-documentary-takes-flight-on-sunday-55578-29756430/

Good wasn't it! F1 I think next week

Uh, Concorde was doing that in the 70s. I don't know how it compares, but apparently it moved 20 tons of fuel from tank to tank between taxiing out to the runway and hitting Mach 2.

I didn't know that.

I also watch Quest and a programme called "How It's Made" and am just amazed at the toolinng and the machinery that has been invented to make the things manufactured not just here but all over. To think how far we have come in 100 years, it's just amazing

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WE certainly make lots of 'bits' of aircraft here.

I've been fortunate to have seen several of the sites.. Rolls Royce in Derby, Airbus (wings) up in Broughton, Joint strike fighter fuselage sections in BAE Samlesbury, similarly Eurofighter.

A lot of it is very high tech and very impressive (particularly the JSF and certain techniques they use to make bits for the Eurofighter), other pracitices I have witnessed.. I won't go into details :lol:

Shorts in Belfast. Used to make whole aircraft but now specialise in making bits

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This doesn't fit in with 'We dont build anything in Britain anymore and there are no jobs' depression that many around here seem to suffer from. :lol:

*Makes note to research where nearest aircraft assembly plant is in morning and apply for job*

How is it possible for so much stupidity to be contained in just one person?

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No comments on my semiconductor comment lol - I think the average person is just interested in these 'wow, big scale engineering' programmes due to the sheer size of these things. Shame!

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This doesn't fit in with 'We dont build anything in Britain anymore and there are no jobs' depression that many around here seem to suffer from. :lol:

*Makes note to research where nearest aircraft assembly plant is in morning and apply for job*

How is it possible for so much stupidity to be contained in just one person?

My point is that this sort of story shows that we do indeed build things in Britain today and there are indeed jobs out there. Contrary to many people on the main forum who regularly come out and say 'THERE ARE NO JOBS' and WE DONT BUILD THINGS IN BRITAIN ANYMORE'

Feel free to explain what is stupid about that. I shall not hold my breath. :rolleyes:

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No comments on my semiconductor comment lol - I think the average person is just interested in these 'wow, big scale engineering' programmes due to the sheer size of these things. Shame!

Ok fire away but if it is boring I will be honest !!

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No comments on my semiconductor comment lol - I think the average person is just interested in these 'wow, big scale engineering' programmes due to the sheer size of these things. Shame!

If you want to impress, apparently size matters :lol:

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I think size DOES matter when it comes to these things. Folks watch the programmes and say 'wow' due to the sheer size, yet if something equally, if not more complex, were shown that was smaller in size, it wouldn't have the same impact.

I've nothing to say about semiconductors to be honest, though it would be good to see a documentary covering them rather than these super-structures. To be honest, it may seem more boring, I can't say... as nothing will have the impact of 'look at the size of that'!

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I think size DOES matter when it comes to these things. Folks watch the programmes and say 'wow' due to the sheer size, yet if something equally, if not more complex, were shown that was smaller in size, it wouldn't have the same impact.

I've nothing to say about semiconductors to be honest, though it would be good to see a documentary covering them rather than these super-structures. To be honest, it may seem more boring, I can't say... as nothing will have the impact of 'look at the size of that'!

I ahve seen a few things about these wee things and they are amazing. Is this the sort of thing with millions of switches or whatever on some tiny bit iof metal ? Or am I confused with something else.

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