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Rubber bullets will be available to police chiefs as thousands of officers are deployed for a fresh round of student fees protests in London.

About 10,000 demonstrators are expected in the capital on Wednesday to voice their anger over tuition fees and cuts.

Scotland Yard Commander Simon Pountain said around 4,000 officers will be on duty thanks to mutual aid provided by other forces.

Baton rounds will be made available for "extreme" measures amid fears scenes will be hijacked by anarchists.

The beefed-up police presence comes amid fears of a repeat of scenes in November and December last year when hundreds of arrests were made amid disturbances over fees.

Protests are being led through central areas of London by the National Campaign Against Fees and Cuts from midday. "We have had constructive negotiations with student representatives," Mr Pountain said.

Campaigners originally wanted to march to Bank but officers "explained that this was not practical because it would cause significant disruption to the business community".

"Over 4,000 officers will be on duty during the day, that does include mutual aid," the police chief said. "We know the overwhelming majority of students are law abiding and we hope this will be a peaceful event.

"However, it would be negligent if we did not plan a response to the small minority who may be intent on disruption and may not intend to be peaceful."

Regarding the potential use of baton rounds, a police spokesman said: "There are a range of tactics available if there is criminality and violence associated with the event. One of these is the authority to deploy baton rounds in extreme circumstances."

Are you paying attention children? Dave really does insist that you take on student debt.

How long before he starts using baton rounds against recalcitrant first time buyers?

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Good, this is a political warning shot, if things get out of hand we will come down hard. Exactly what is needed in light of the london riots.

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Good, this is a political warning shot, if things get out of hand we will come down hard. Exactly what is needed in light of the london riots.

Wait until the first rubber bullet kills or injures somone on the mainland... there are very few police, and they have to live among the community... :ph34r:

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Good, this is a political warning shot, if things get out of hand we will come down hard. Exactly what is needed in light of the london riots.

+1

Peaceful protest should almost always be allowed.

Gets nasty, let the bullets fly.

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Really real nice post

Not much point replying. In the 4 minutes it took you to post your message, clockslinger will have been carted off for retraining.

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Look, while I don't like Dave, I don't like him for his actions, for his missed opportunities and his weak willed lack of going far enough fast enough.

I sense your just a reflective leftie that instinctively hates the 'toorezz' as part of some class war based rage against a world you don't fully understand. The type that is quick to point out the privileges in the upbringing of the Tory front bench yet fail somehow to notice the same privileged rife on the Labour benches.

When the Tories are in power the left look for any excuse to riot. When Labour are in power the right still go to work. And while there is scant little difference in the red Socialists and the blue Socialists these days I have pondered on your narrow tribal poop of consciousness and decided I would not be bothered in the slightest if you got a rubber bullet delivered into your nut sack at 180mph.

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Amazing plastic bullets for students, multibillion pound bailouts and million pound bonuses for bankers.

It's great living in a democracy.

The difference is that the bankers will politely tell you they need to be given billions and clueless politicians like Gordon Brown and Barack'O will actually give it to them, but the bankers would just deal with it if a politician had the sense not to hand over taxpayers cash.

While these rioters with the exact same sense of unjustified entitlement will scream at you and smash all your windows while demanding taxpayers money.

Its not hard to start to see why the one group is more successful, and why the other deserves a rubber bullet.

Neither group actually deserves a penny from the taxpayer, but that is another debate.

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Look, while I don't like Dave, I don't like him for his actions, for his missed opportunities and his weak willed lack of going far enough fast enough.

I sense your just a reflective leftie that instinctively hates the 'toorezz' as part of some class war based rage against a world you don't fully understand. The type that is quick to point out the privileges in the upbringing of the Tory front bench yet fail somehow to notice the same privileged rife on the Labour benches.

When the Tories are in power the left look for any excuse to riot. When Labour are in power the right still go to work. And while there is scant little difference in the red Socialists and the blue Socialists these days I have pondered on your narrow tribal poop of consciousness and decided I would not be bothered in the slightest if you got a rubber bullet delivered into your nut sack at 180mph.

+∞

Thanks for saving me the typing.

We would not have had any of the riots if Labour were still in power, doing identical things.

It's pathetic.

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Who can blame youngsters for getting upset.

They aren't dumb, and know 100% that hey are not going to enjoy their parents lifestyle.

FFS. An 18 year old living in a mid size city, with a diploma, degree or otherwise, on minimum-ish wage can't possibly have a family and expect somewhere decent to raise their kids, nor to own a home, car and the other thing that the previous generations did.

This has nothing to do with their ambitions and everything to do with those older ones pulling the rug out from them, at every step.

Debt, debt, debt.

Broken Britain.

But to be honest, Britain does not have a good history in regards to showing compassion to young folk.

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come on Dave - shoot our kids

I can see Westminster Burning to the ground - bring it on Dave!

They bring bullets. Kids will bring arson. You're just upping the war and making them feel vindicated in violence and criminal damage. It's not a deterrent for the trouble makers at all.

You want to solve the problem, then talk with them seriously with an open mind rather than a closed agenda. As soon as they know you aren't really listening then a crowd resorts to all it has left, violence and crime.

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Hope any protests are peaceful, but any people causing violence & damage get treated like they should do

Given a large bonus?

[that's a pun at the damage due to banking and corporates by they way]

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Are you paying attention children? Dave really does insist that you take on student debt.

How long before he starts using baton rounds against recalcitrant first time buyers?

Students?

Dave, you are missing it. This next revolt will not be restricted to students.

1642 is back.

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Without debt, today's youth may actually have a better lifestyle. Prices will be less elevated, and they won't pay interest on goods they have saved up for rather than bought on tick.

I've said it before - the spend it like Beckham lifestyle only gives you increased 'quality of life' in the short term. Once you are up to your credit limit, you've got to pay it back with interest curtailing additional expenditure.

Houses will be affordable to the next generation at some point.

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Who can blame youngsters for getting upset.

They aren't dumb, and know 100% that hey are not going to enjoy their parents lifestyle.

FFS. An 18 year old living in a mid size city, with a diploma, degree or otherwise, on minimum-ish wage can't possibly have a family and expect somewhere decent to raise their kids, nor to own a home, car and the other thing that the previous generations did.

This has nothing to do with their ambitions and everything to do with those older ones pulling the rug out from them, at every step.

Debt, debt, debt.

Broken Britain.

But to be honest, Britain does not have a good history in regards to showing compassion to young folk.

As a 44 year old married parent of two young children - i concur

anyone who does not is delusional

As the world begins to run out of cheap energy and cheap growth - things will get worse

I dont want anything for nothing, i just want fairness - dont you?

this forum has been highjacked by kids unfortunately born into ignorance,

housepricecrash.co.uk or a Tory forum

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Rubber bullets? Hardly. Baton rounds have been used for a long time. It is nothing new. Non event tbh.

All firearm units will carry baton rounds and the respective launcher. Baton rounds are designed to be aimed at the floor near to the subject so they bounce up and hit the lower body and leg area. Baton rounds are quite large too, bigger than a roll of 25 maples for example. Maybe rounds have changed now though...

I'd be glad of the police using such a device if it stopped someone's lively hood being burnt down to a crisp by some chav.

But it is yet again hpc going to the mega extreme and reporting a true non event.

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+∞

Thanks for saving me the typing.

We would not have had any of the riots if Labour were still in power, doing identical things.

It's pathetic.

Hmm, I didn't even consider the aspect that this was a reaction to the 'nasty Tories'! To be honest I saw that big post as a great one.. .largely due to the financial rape we're subjected to by the political/media/banking elite going unchallenged... and now we get a few protests about the ridiculous oversized fees and they're loading their guns with plastic bullets!

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You want to solve the problem, then talk with them seriously with an open mind rather than a closed agenda.

I honestly don't think any sort of talk would get us anywhere. Sadly I think action speaks louder than words.

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This thread has been moved to Current Affairs. Please note that all posts advocating violence or a violent response towards the Police will be removed.

If violent posts continue then the Moderators will have to remove the thread from the forum.

Read the forum rules before posting.

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Core value - Hardly pro violence?

Pro stopping feral teenagers burning some poor sods property to the ground.

How exactly do you deal with a large group of kids burning stuff? It is a last resort to use such tactics but if it could stop massive wide spread damage then good.

I'd rather they deploy more officers but there ain't the money to do this.

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