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bored pof techie programming whether in finance or sciencey fortran

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love hiking and getting out, not a geek by birth

I have heard of people having rewarding times working on the railways, not bad pay, scenery changes in various ways, do you know anyone who has made thischange and is it good?

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very good

TBH, being a train driver has always attracted....too old now, only 17 years to retirement.

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bored pof techie programming whether in finance or sciencey fortran

bored bored bored

love hiking and getting out, not a geek by birth

I have heard of people having rewarding times working on the railways, not bad pay, scenery changes in various ways, do you know anyone who has made thischange and is it good?

You will need to start with a PTS card for track work.

Most work goes through agencies these days like vital-rail(poor pay) orAmeys.

The decent pay starts once you get yourCOSS ticketthen you can diversify to other trades on the track

Work depends on your location howver you will be expected with an agency to travel 4+hours for a job(expenses paid)

Pay depends on your trade if are a basic PTS work (shovel work) pay can be as little £8 an hour

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bored pof techie programming whether in finance or sciencey fortran

bored bored bored

love hiking and getting out, not a geek by birth

I have heard of people having rewarding times working on the railways, not bad pay, scenery changes in various ways, do you know anyone who has made thischange and is it good?

I'm also ex sciency fortran techie programming/administrator type who loves hiking and spending on odd year or three exploring the world when not working. To be honest a job is a job when it comes down to it. I'm always tempted by an outdoor type of job, and then I'd end up spending some of my spare time playing on a computer. It seems that the IT type job is always going to pay better and as long as I don't spend too much of my life doing it then I do quite enjoy the intellectual challenge of it.

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Worked there for 10 years, although now 'privatised' the place is still run by the old school. the unions rule. The attitude to work (or lack of it) would drive you mad I assume if you're posting on here.

It's an industry with one foot firmly stuck in the past and it ground me down in the end. Took redundancy payout best move I ever made. The place is public sector through and through, full of little hitlers who wouldn't last a week in the private sector. It is still public sector really, pretty sure the subsidies are still astronomical.

Easy money though - the T&Cs are stupid, when I left I was on 30 days A/L plus all the BHols and the "railway days" where you get another tuesday off after the Bhol mondays. Best bit though was the free travel on the regional network and 75% off the rest of the country with priv card. Thats a perk you don't realise how great it is until its gone. Also caught up with some old workmates recently and they were going on about the 5.2% pay award this year again.

Best job of all is a driver, they're only on something like £40k basic but their t&cs are utterly laughable to the extent they regularly double it and more with all the little out of hours clauses and rest days etc. ok you will have to go through the trauma of ploughing over some poor sod who has had enough (avg 1 per week when I was there) but from speaking to some of the drivers once you've had your first it kind of wears off. one old boy who had been driving for 20+ years was up into the 30s of fatalities. I digress.

Now I work for a private company who genuinely reward the value you bring to the role, and encourage the entrepreneurial spirit etc and it's light and day. Wouldn't recommend the railways have to be honest. That probably comes across really bitter, it isn't intended to be, its only since leaving I can see the difference of old school vs new school. I'd put the railways in the box with NHS and the council in terms of worker mentality. Can't see how the country progresses economically with lumbering beasts of organisations like these everywhere.

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I'm also ex sciency fortran techie programming/administrator type who loves hiking and spending on odd year or three exploring the world when not working. To be honest a job is a job when it comes down to it. I'm always tempted by an outdoor type of job, and then I'd end up spending some of my spare time playing on a computer. It seems that the IT type job is always going to pay better and as long as I don't spend too much of my life doing it then I do quite enjoy the intellectual challenge of it.

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Worked there for 10 years, although now 'privatised' the place is still run by the old school. the unions rule. The attitude to work (or lack of it) would drive you mad I assume if you're posting on here.

It's an industry with one foot firmly stuck in the past and it ground me down in the end. Took redundancy payout best move I ever made. The place is public sector through and through, full of little hitlers who wouldn't last a week in the private sector. It is still public sector really, pretty sure the subsidies are still astronomical.

Easy money though - the T&Cs are stupid, when I left I was on 30 days A/L plus all the BHols and the "railway days" where you get another tuesday off after the Bhol mondays. Best bit though was the free travel on the regional network and 75% off the rest of the country with priv card. Thats a perk you don't realise how great it is until its gone. Also caught up with some old workmates recently and they were going on about the 5.2% pay award this year again.

Best job of all is a driver, they're only on something like £40k basic but their t&cs are utterly laughable to the extent they regularly double it and more with all the little out of hours clauses and rest days etc. ok you will have to go through the trauma of ploughing over some poor sod who has had enough (avg 1 per week when I was there) but from speaking to some of the drivers once you've had your first it kind of wears off. one old boy who had been driving for 20+ years was up into the 30s of fatalities. I digress.

Now I work for a private company who genuinely reward the value you bring to the role, and encourage the entrepreneurial spirit etc and it's light and day. Wouldn't recommend the railways have to be honest. That probably comes across really bitter, it isn't intended to be, its only since leaving I can see the difference of old school vs new school. I'd put the railways in the box with NHS and the council in terms of worker mentality. Can't see how the country progresses economically with lumbering beasts of organisations like these everywhere.

:ph34r:

very enlightening, what did you do?

and also, aren't they being reformed soon?

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very enlightening, what did you do?

and also, aren't they being reformed soon?

Financial Analysis.

Reforms: Haven't heard about that, my feeling is they can try and reform but the bottom line is the unions are in complete charge.

The drivers know their position (ie the company aint got much of a product without them!) and they milk it to death. it went beyond employee rights years ago.

The train managers and customer services bods simply have the critical mass to veto whatever they choose.

Classic anecdotal when the drivers were negotiating their new contracts few years back they weren't happy with the state of some of the taxis that were being used to shuttle them from the depot to the station at start/end of shift. they managed to get it written in the t&cs that they wouldn't have to get in a taxi if it was over 3 years old.

result: luxury car firm get the contract meaning plush lexus/mercedes/bmws all round to take them the 2 mile trip to the train and back :lol:

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Financial Analysis.

Reforms: Haven't heard about that, my feeling is they can try and reform but the bottom line is the unions are in complete charge.

The drivers know their position (ie the company aint got much of a product without them!) and they milk it to death. it went beyond employee rights years ago.

The train managers and customer services bods simply have the critical mass to veto whatever they choose.

Classic anecdotal when the drivers were negotiating their new contracts few years back they weren't happy with the state of some of the taxis that were being used to shuttle them from the depot to the station at start/end of shift. they managed to get it written in the t&cs that they wouldn't have to get in a taxi if it was over 3 years old.

result: luxury car firm get the contract meaning plush lexus/mercedes/bmws all round to take them the 2 mile trip to the train and back :lol:

providing they negotiate at the company level then that's fair negotiation surely, I object to the national level, that is we have the individual democratic vote for that, but unionism at the micro level is fair in my book, obviously individual circumstances...

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Yeah. I was in the same class at school as a lad we used to call "puffer" Hughes, partly from his asthma (a rarity back then), and partly from his obsession with trains. He went on to become a tube train driver, which could possibly rank as the most boring job in the world.

And then he won Mastermind. And Brain of Britain. And International Mastermind.

Hope that helps (I'm sure it didn't).

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You will need to start with a PTS card for track work.

Ah thanks for that. Forgot what it was called. A friend of mine got this a few years back. He spent a few days helping upgrade the wireless communications on the DLR. I assume the DLR will have sponsored him.

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Yeah. I was in the same class at school as a lad we used to call "puffer" Hughes, partly from his asthma (a rarity back then), and partly from his obsession with trains. He went on to become a tube train driver, which could possibly rank as the most boring job in the world.

And then he won Mastermind. And Brain of Britain. And International Mastermind.

Hope that helps (I'm sure it didn't).

And now an Egghead.

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Hours are bad. Last time I looked you ended up working all the live-long day.

bloke I know, train driver, just re-made aquaintences, said he works 4 days a week 6 to 10 hours, and every 3 weeks they get 5 long day weekend

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bored pof techie programming whether in finance or sciencey fortran

bored bored bored

love hiking and getting out, not a geek by birth

I have heard of people having rewarding times working on the railways, not bad pay, scenery changes in various ways, do you know anyone who has made thischange and is it good?

I know the feeling - started working as a programmer 15 years ago just to "save up some travel money" and I'm still bloody doing it (although at least I'm now I'm doing it in Spain). I imagine the problem with being a train driver is you'll become specialised and before you realise it you're 40 and stuck in the same job, whether you like it or not. At least with IT you can move around, re-train, etc.

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I'm also ex sciency fortran techie programming/administrator type who loves hiking and spending on odd year or three exploring the world when not working. To be honest a job is a job when it comes down to it. I'm always tempted by an outdoor type of job, and then I'd end up spending some of my spare time playing on a computer. It seems that the IT type job is always going to pay better and as long as I don't spend too much of my life doing it then I do quite enjoy the intellectual challenge of it.

I'm also from an IT type background, but I've done some landscaping type work in the past...I just cannot put up with shite, cold weather - I'm a fair weather outdoorsy person...

Sometime, I'd like to do IT freelancing, but do something different during the day...

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I have a friend who used to be a soldier.

He got a job as a train driver up north and after training was earning £48k. That was a couple of years ago and they have bribed negotiated above RPI pay rises since then.

Yeah my dad says the train drivers up in Edinburgh anyway are looking at £40-45k, plus gold-plated pension.

I saw an ad not long ago wanting train drivers but I bottled out of it, HOPING instead that my job will pay more in future. Probably the wrong choice.

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