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I personally am a blue voter, but am just interested to see where everyone would vote post PM shake-up?

Reson I ask is I reckon there is increasing dissent amongst the Labourites about Brown, and is rapidly loosing support. QPQ Labour may go after the popular choice. So Who would you prefer as he next leader of the Labour party?

Ill start with what I consider the best of a bad bunch:

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They are all pretty odious, and the fresh intakes of MPs have given more NuLab drone-clones.

Ried? Urgh!

Blunkett? He's too busy spouting Daily Mailish nonsense and lining up his next bird to run the nation.

Hoon? 'You ain't nothin' but a Hoon-dog, Lying all the time'!

Kelly? Her memebership of Opus Dei should go down well in the US among people who think the Da Vinci Code is a true story. Beyond that, the man-voiced hard-right Catholic is dull as ditchwater.

Tessa Jowel? I wouldn't bet on it. Unless it was in an American super-casino, of course.

Robin Cook? Posible Brown challenger. Ooops, forget he's dead.

Hmm, help me out here...

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Robin Cook? Posible Brown challenger. Ooops, forget he's dead.

That need not matter!

He's still more impressive than some of the living candidates.

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Claire Short - it would be entertaining and she'd give George Bush hell!

Are there any good looking female/conservative MPs for a change, rather than looking like the back of a bus? Not sure about Claire short, she comes across as rather illiterate and simple.

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This whole SIPPs thing has finally convinced me that Labour are no different from the Tories. I don't give a crap whose PM anymore, they're all the same. If only John Smith hadn't died.

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This whole SIPPs thing has finally convinced me that Labour are no different from the Tories. I don't give a crap whose PM anymore, they're all the same. If only John Smith hadn't died.

true they are all a bag of shite be they red or be they blue. What makes me laugh after three terms of Blair politics. The Tories reckon what they need to get back into power is a Blair of their own.

Like I keep telling ya all, there really isn't any real choices in this so called democracy of ours. We are but tax cows to be milked and or sent off to war by the same faceless system, set up to serve the interests of the IMC.

The Democratic model in use today has been fully bought and paid for. :ph34r:

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Am I the only one who want to see crash Gordon leading the nuLab when the house of cards comes tumbling down?

Hopefully though we'll have someone in number 11 who doesn't screw the economy any more than it currenly is.

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Are there any good looking female/conservative MPs for a change, rather than looking like the back of a bus? Not sure about Claire short, she comes across as rather illiterate and simple.

Claire Short tells it like it is - without all the spin. I think you are confusing literacy with spin.

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Hopefully though we'll have someone in number 11 who doesn't screw the economy any more than it currenly is.

Stand up Mr Ed Balls MP :D

Mr Balls, tipped by many to be a future government minister,

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Claire Short tells it like it is - without all the spin. I think you are confusing literacy with spin.

No, i mean illiterate. Having listened to her on question time, she sounds as if she had been educated down the local working mens club. Along with that, she seems to have a distinct and rather distasteful streak of old-lab communist there as well (as many of the old lab front); ultimately naieve and fighting against what made this country once great.

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Mr Walter Wolfgang (the old codger ejected from the party conference) was asked a similar question on the today program.

He pointed out that the next leader might come from an unexpected direction. "After all" he said (I paraphrase liberally), "who would have thought that the Mayor of London would become PM" referring to Atlee's post war success.

... meaning... Ken Livingstone?

And you all thought you had it bad with Blair! :blink:

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This question has just made me realise, there is nobody.

This is the beginning of the end for NU Labour.

Just like when Maggie Thatcher was ousted, they limped on for a while with John Major, but they were finished from that day.

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This question has just made me realise, there is nobody.

This is the beginning of the end for NU Labour.

Just like when Maggie Thatcher was ousted, they limped on for a while with John Major, but they were finished from that day.

I realised this as well watching that simple but effective Panorama programme... I started thinking who would be the front-man of Noo-Lab, someone who could replace the wolf in sheeps clothing. Fact is, Tone was the only guy able to pull it off, in terms of charisma, personality and leadership. As a Tory, i can even see the lure... Truthfully though, without Tone, Labour is dead. Tony WAS noo Labour. One thing as a Tory I do fear is Cameron taking the helm of the conservatives; it could be the end of us as the opposition party.

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I personally am a blue voter, but am just interested to see where everyone would vote post PM shake-up?

Reson I ask is I reckon there is increasing dissent amongst the Labourites about Brown, and is rapidly loosing support............

You're right. The Blairites are as determined as ever to prevent Brown taking over despite what they may have been saying recently in public

The rumour amongst some sections of the Labour party is that Blair-favourite Alan Milburn will be brought out of semi-retirement to challenge Brown for the leadership but not for at least a year or so until its clear the economy is going t>ts up for which Brown will cop the blame leaving his reputation and standing fatally damaged.

Its true that Milburn is pretty useless and charmless but the same can be said for all the upper echelons of New Labour so who else is there to stand as Blairs preferred successor against Brown? One things for sure they will not be handing it to Gordon on a plate as some seem to think.

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I realised this as well watching that simple but effective Panorama programme... I started thinking who would be the front-man of Noo-Lab, someone who could replace the wolf in sheeps clothing. Fact is, Tone was the only guy able to pull it off, in terms of charisma, personality and leadership. As a Tory, i can even see the lure... Truthfully though, without Tone, Labour is dead. Tony WAS noo Labour. One thing as a Tory I do fear is Cameron taking the helm of the conservatives; it could be the end of us as the opposition party.

Well I don't know about you. I presume as a real Tory you have the vote for the party election. But after listening to all of the Tory candidate speaches last week I will be voting Cameron. If I get a chance and not Davis who I might have before hand.

As for Labour, I hope it goes to plan and Brown takes over so that he can reap what he has sown. That will do me fine. :)

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Are there any good looking female/conservative MPs for a change, rather than looking like the back of a bus? Not sure about Claire short, she comes across as rather illiterate and simple.

I am a blue,but I do actually like clare short!!!.....she calls a spade a spade!!

...she certainly isn't shy to voice her opinion,even if her views on global politics are something akin to telly-tubby land.at least she speaks her mind without spin.

...and sticks to her beliefs,which is more than can be said for the vast majority of politicians.

elections would be much simpler with candidates of the "this is my stall...take it or leave it" variety.

Are there any good looking female/conservative MPs for a change, rather than looking like the back of a bus?

......I don't think the tories have got as far down the PR route as using the lynx-effect to sell politics.

pity really.basic but it works.

give a crap product a bit of window dressing and it will sell.that's NUlabour for you.

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Hopefully though we'll have someone in number 11 who doesn't screw the economy any more than it currenly is.

good luck to them. it will be an impossible job to save it.

it has to now slide to correct itself.

on the leader issue.

i really beieve ken livingstone should run. hes quirky, but his politics are real.

i cant think of one other new labour person i could offer. i really couldnt.

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Dennis Skinner would be entertaining.

Blair has been an utter failure - he's achieved nothing, got Britain into a war its difficult to get out of & he's ultimately responsible for Crash Gordon's disastrous performance as chancellor

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No, i mean illiterate. Having listened to her on question time, she sounds as if she had been educated down the local working mens club. Along with that, she seems to have a distinct and rather distasteful streak of old-lab communist there as well (as many of the old lab front); ultimately naieve and fighting against what made this country once great.

An accusation of illiteracy from someone who manages six grammatical and spelling errors in three posts strikes me as a bit rich. Pots and kettles?

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I realised this as well watching that simple but effective Panorama programme... I started thinking who would be the front-man of Noo-Lab, someone who could replace the wolf in sheeps clothing. Fact is, Tone was the only guy able to pull it off, in terms of charisma, personality and leadership. As a Tory, i can even see the lure... Truthfully though, without Tone, Labour is dead. Tony WAS noo Labour. One thing as a Tory I do fear is Cameron taking the helm of the conservatives; it could be the end of us as the opposition party.

There was a feature in Newsnight the other night where they had a room full of people and an American market researcher.

The group was a mixed bag - labour voters, conservative voters, young, old etc.

They all had a dial they could twist to register approval or disapproval.

All the Tory leadership candidates where shown on a screen making speeches etc.

The researcher told them things about the candidates, let them listen to them and asked them questions.

The outcome was quite remarkable. At the beginning the punters voted/assumed Clarke or Davis. By the time they had heard them speak etc Cameron was almost the unanimous choice. The researcher was, to coing a colloquial term, 'gob-smacked'. So was I.

If the Tories want to win the next election they need to stop asking themselves who they want as leader and start asking the man in the street who he wants as leader. On the basis of this cross-section of the public it's a no-brainer. Cameron is the man.

Have to say I think you could not be more wrong. Davis or Clarke - 4th election defeat - end of party. Cameron is the Tory version of Blair. Young, normal looking, normal sounding, not a nutter. These seem to be the most important qualities for the electorate.

Interestingly several of the elderly people polled thought Davis and Clarke were too old - even though they were 20 years younger than them!

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