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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/police_chiefs_worst_paid_in_country_after_cars_go_1_3855705

SOUTH Yorkshire’s most senior ranking police officers are all to lose their car allowances - making them the worst-paid police chiefs in the country.

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South Yorkshire Police was paying around £1,000 a month to lease an Audi A8 for Mr Hughes and Deputy Chief Constable Bob Dyson, who will be acting as Chief Constable, has a BMW.

Assistant Chief Constables Max Sahota and Andy Holt and finance director Nigel Hiller also have BMWs paid for by the force.

Looks like across the country several hundred grand could be saved quite easily.

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It infuriates me beyond belief to see motorway cops rocking around in £70k + range rovers, £40k + Discoveries, minted BMWs and various high performance ‘pursuit’ cars. And that is without the berks in high vis – the labour creation dreams – highway patrol officers.

You go to the continent and they make do with what they are given – driving round Nice/Marseilles they all have Citroen C4s! Given the nature of the roads, types of cars and cross border traffic you would think the French officers would be in more need of ‘high end’ motors but they do fine without, so why do our police need such extravagant motors?!!!!

From the same S.yorks force they had the Chief officer who was retiring, looked nice and young. Another public servant entering the gravy train. Still they must have earnt it to retire so early, earn so much over the national average on final salary, much more than the poor suckers outside the public sector paying for it.

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It infuriates me beyond belief to see motorway cops rocking around in £70k + range rovers, £40k + Discoveries, minted BMWs and various high performance 'pursuit' cars. And that is without the berks in high vis – the labour creation dreams – highway patrol officers.

You go to the continent and they make do with what they are given – driving round Nice/Marseilles they all have Citroen C4s! Given the nature of the roads, types of cars and cross border traffic you would think the French officers would be in more need of 'high end' motors but they do fine without, so why do our police need such extravagant motors?!!!!

From the same S.yorks force they had the Chief officer who was retiring, looked nice and young. Another public servant entering the gravy train. Still they must have earnt it to retire so early, earn so much over the national average on final salary, much more than the poor suckers outside the public sector paying for it.

Me too. They may as well just be a gang who go around stealing money from taxpayers under threat of menaces.......which is in effect, not so far from the truth.

Even their mountain Bikes are made by Specialised, and you should see what the coppers drive in places like Harrogate....

But mainly what ticks me off, is the 'fiddle' they are on.

One in ten coppers in the whole of England and Wales is on 'sick' leave or restricted duties, and they still get full pay. North Yorkshire Police saw costs increase from £680,000 in 2002-03 to £1.6m in 2007-08 and Suffolk's went up from £80,000 to £750,000.

The main reasons for the leave are stress, depression, back pain and "other musculo-skeletal disorders", according to The Times, which got hold of the figures.

Arbitrary, maybe, but I remember when I was a kid in the seventies and eighties, they had a copper whose role it was just to deal with stolen bicycles, at the local little cop shop. Now thats closed down, and they've all moved to one of two modern fortress's in my area.

Tell em your pushbikes been nicked and they'll laugh at you or ignore you.

No-one joins the police to help people any more. Its all about the power trip. Their 'intimidatory' tactics as a method of dealing with the public are dispicable. And cause much completely justifiable anger.

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I'm not so sure what their point is - surely by definition someone always has to be the 'worst paid' at any given profession? Why should the general public give a flying fsck whether the South Yorkshire lot are the worst paid or some chiefs in another area are?

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Isn't this good news for S. Yorks council tax payers?

Not really, a typically shortsighted saving at the cost of long term Escape From New Yorkism

What will happen is their will be a pork fuelled brain drain and the talent will head of to the likes of Warsaw or Ghangzou

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No-one joins the police to help people any more. Its all about the power trip. Their 'intimidatory' tactics as a method of dealing with the public are dispicable. And cause much completely justifiable anger.

+1

Just look at the uniform these days. Coppers are walking around town centres with army boots with black combat trousers tucked into them.

Are they going to be wading through rivers whilst on duty? No, it's completely intimidatory. They are enforcers, we are the enforced.

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Just look at the uniform these days. Coppers are walking around town centres with army boots with black combat trousers tucked into them.

Are they going to be wading through rivers whilst on duty? No, it's completely intimidatory. They are enforcers, we are the enforced.

What happened to the proper policeman's helmet? :blink:

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It infuriates me beyond belief to see motorway cops rocking around in £70k + range rovers, £40k + Discoveries, minted BMWs and various high performance ‘pursuit’ cars.

It's because if you're going to have to drive at 110mph to catch someone prat footballer in a Aston, or some drugged up scally in a stolen fiesta, it's a good idea to do it in a car DESIGNED to go at 110mph. Big cars like Range Rovers and Discoverys also mean the police force isn't left TOTALLY crippled by the first flake and snow, and, more importantly, will come off best when the tw@t who steals your car off your drive deliberately rams it into a police car.

The extra money on decent cars is probably made back in savings from staff not being off sick with injuries. Also, I can't see officers even being PREPARED to chase those bank robbers down the M1 at 90mph in a Vauxhall corsa.

The French get round the problem by having social co-hesion and armed police officers.

You go to the continent and they make do with what they are given – driving round Nice/Marseilles they all have Citroen C4s!
That will be ebcause they have a rule of ONLY buying government vehicles from the national carmakers, and only buying vehicles actually made IN France.
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No-one joins the police to help people any more. Its all about the power trip. Their 'intimidatory' tactics as a method of dealing with the public are dispicable. And cause much completely justifiable anger.

+1

Over the years I've witnessed all manner of nonsense from the police along these lines. Recently I saw them incite a road rage incident. On an empty 40mph road the CID in a BMW 5-Series (no livery of course) aggressively tailgated a driver. Other driver simply moved over to allow what he likely percieved to be a nutter to pass by. They moved in behind him and contuinued to antagonise. Finally they put the blue lights on and flew past him. Nothing but sheer intimidation.

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Over the years I've witnessed all manner of nonsense from the police along these lines. Recently I saw them incite a road rage incident. On an empty 40mph road the CID in a BMW 5-Series (no livery of course) aggressively tailgated a driver. Other driver simply moved over to allow what he likely percieved to be a nutter to pass by. They moved in behind him and contuinued to antagonise. Finally they put the blue lights on and flew past him. Nothing but sheer intimidation.

The very same thing happened to me, but it wasn't a BMW, it was a black Wolsely with a bell on the front! :o:huh:

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It's because if you're going to have to drive at 110mph to catch someone prat footballer in a Aston, or some drugged up scally in a stolen fiesta, it's a good idea to do it in a car DESIGNED to go at 110mph. Big cars like Range Rovers and Discoverys also mean the police force isn't left TOTALLY crippled by the first flake and snow, and, more importantly, will come off best when the tw@t who steals your car off your drive deliberately rams it into a police car.

The extra money on decent cars is probably made back in savings from staff not being off sick with injuries. Also, I can't see officers even being PREPARED to chase those bank robbers down the M1 at 90mph in a Vauxhall corsa.

The French get round the problem by having social co-hesion and armed police officers.

That will be ebcause they have a rule of ONLY buying government vehicles from the national carmakers, and only buying vehicles actually made IN France.

nonsense....a motorway is a trap for the speed hoodlum....police have light speed radios to set up a block.

As for the Chief getting a car allowance....they can afford to use their own and get the statutory allowance for business miles...its not as if they will be using it for obo of the alex harvey drug clan at Dales Farm.

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It's because if you're going to have to drive at 110mph to catch someone prat footballer in a Aston, or some drugged up scally in a stolen fiesta, it's a good idea to do it in a car DESIGNED to go at 110mph. Big cars like Range Rovers and Discoverys also mean the police force isn't left TOTALLY crippled by the first flake and snow, and, more importantly, will come off best when the tw@t who steals your car off your drive deliberately rams it into a police car.

The extra money on decent cars is probably made back in savings from staff not being off sick with injuries. Also, I can't see officers even being PREPARED to chase those bank robbers down the M1 at 90mph in a Vauxhall corsa.

The French get round the problem by having social co-hesion and armed police officers.

That will be ebcause they have a rule of ONLY buying government vehicles from the national carmakers, and only buying vehicles actually made IN France.

Following a car at high speed up a motorway is quite dangerous and is usually better (as in more safely and effectively) done with a helicopter or even a UAV which can coordinate officers from above.

I wouldn't say that high-spec cars such as Discos and Range-Rovers are superfluous, they are able to mount kerbs and tow things out of the road in an emergency.

This story is about the Chief Constables' cars which are used for taking the CC between meetings etc. and are unlikely to be involved in any actual on-the-ground police work such as chasing perps along motorways.

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It's because if you're going to have to drive at 110mph to catch someone prat footballer in a Aston

Just how would it help to endanger everyone's lives by chasing someone for speeding? The current approach to people getting mugged or beaten for the hell of it is "we will look at the CCTV footage afterwards". It was certainly the approach when feral chavs decided to go around torching bits of London. I would much rather have an extra copper walking about for a year, and the motorway patrol driving a Fiesta if it's in fact needed at all. The prat can as well be fined and banned later if that is warranted.

I am pretty sure that motorway driving is very much safer than waking about on Friday night at closing time. Perhaps that would suggest a good place to concentrate the resources?

, or some drugged up scally in a stolen fiesta, it's a good idea to do it in a car DESIGNED to go at 110mph.

He probably only has the car because no-one has bothered to take it off him for not having tax and insurance, or indeed for driving a stolen car. That is trivial to do given a bit of forward planning rather than waiting until it requires a car chase. But it does not involve a "need" for luxury cars and affects minorities, so somehow it's not a priority.

Big cars like Range Rovers and Discoverys also mean the police force isn't left TOTALLY crippled by the first flake and snow, and, more importantly, will come off best when the tw@t who steals your car off your drive deliberately rams it into a police car.

Yes, maybe if the thief waits around until the morning for the plod to turn up with a crime reference number. I really don't see that the ability of the police to participate in dangerous car chases is that valuable. In any case, the Octavia VRS should do just fine if they really need a fast car. (BTW, modern cars are sufficiently difficult to steal that it's unlikely to be done by someone so far out of his mind that he would consider ramming a police car. I don't see it's worth chasing someone for nicking a 10+ year old banger if it's going to even come close to ending in a crash.)

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Yes, maybe if the thief waits around until the morning for the plod to turn up with a crime reference number. I really don't see that the ability of the police to participate in dangerous car chases is that valuable. In any case, the Octavia VRS should do just fine if they really need a fast car. (BTW, modern cars are sufficiently difficult to steal that it's unlikely to be done by someone so far out of his mind that he would consider ramming a police car. I don't see it's worth chasing someone for nicking a 10+ year old banger if it's going to even come close to ending in a crash.)

Its not just about the car, its about the package. Police cars get the ******** thrashed off them every day, the reliability of the car and what the provider will do when its broken are more important than the top end speed. I've heard of cases where the car company lose money on the deal as they sign up to repair all damage free, while totally underestimating what that means.

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Its not just about the car, its about the package. Police cars get the ******** thrashed off them every day, the reliability of the car and what the provider will do when its broken are more important than the top end speed. I've heard of cases where the car company lose money on the deal as they sign up to repair all damage free, while totally underestimating what that means.

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A mate of mine bought an ex cop car believing it to be of good provenance with full service history and then some. It was a Rover ?800 and turned out to be an unreliable piece of junk.

A day in the life of a police car... sat on a motorway bridge for 10-15minutes ***engine off*** waiting for a car to zoom underneath at 88mph+ within 15 seconds of turning the ignition key they are in pursuit at 140mph+ hardly a good way to treat any car.

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