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Thousands of buy to let and shared house landlords may have to join a council licensing scheme if controversial plans get the green light.

Newham Council in East London plans to introduce the scheme by July next year.

Councillors want every private landlord to register for a licence – and will start inspections of every property to make sure they are not flouting tenancy laws.

The council housing team will also check landlords have insurance – which is not a legal obligation.

Newham Mayor Sir Robin Wales said: “This proposed scheme shows that Newham is leading the country when it comes to tackling bad landlords who flout the law.

“We want to ensure that private sector rented properties are well managed and meet a good standard. We also want to deal with the crime and anti-social behaviour that is sometimes associated with bad private sector rented housing.

“There are good landlords in Newham and we want to work with them. Unfortunately there are also some unscrupulous ones – which these proposals would target.”

The initiative has already been piloted in the borough’s Little Ilford Neighbourhood Improvement Zone.

In a separate plan, Newham Council wants to borrow money to buy private homes to let.

The council in discussions with the government over the move, as current laws ban councils from borrowing money.

If successful, the council wants to buy around 7,500 homes to ease homelessness and improve property standards.

Newham has also set up a team with hi-tech thermal imagers and cameras to track down landlords letting out ‘super sheds‘ to vulnerable tenants for hundreds of pounds a week.

“We will never accept private sector tenants being directly exploited by landlords who force them to live in dangerous and unacceptable conditions.,” said Sir Robin.

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They just want to charge fee, impose their authoritarian power and expand their remit allowing them to employ more people and have larger salaries at the top.

Its corrupt mafioso statist ********.

I really do despair, Its like Ayn Rand said: "For a man to produce, he must first seek the permission of those who produce nothing"

Please god let it all collapse.

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They just want to charge fee, impose their authoritarian power and expand their remit allowing them to employ more people and have larger salaries at the top.

Its corrupt mafioso statist ********.

I really do despair, Its like Ayn Rand said: "For a man to produce, he must first seek the permission of those who produce nothing"

Please god let it all collapse.

I don't know, might be a good thing.

Several yrs ago Nottingham council really got stuck into to a vile, Rachmanesque landlady my daughter and 4 others were renting from. The house was full of dodgy wiring, illegal sofa-stuffing and God knows what and all she did when they asked for anything was scream abuse at them. The council forced her to fix things - gave her a certain time and said if she hadn't done them by then they'd do it and give her the bill.

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Totally pointless. The reason there are too many bad landlords isn't a lack of bureaucracy.

It's the fact that tenants have hardly any rights in this country, so landlords can be bad landlords with impunity because they can get rid of any tenant who makes a fuss over it with no recourse.

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Outstanding news. The higher the cost of compliance and bureaucracy the better. Hopefully those caught in this trap, unable to sell due to negative equity and bearing the burden of negative returns, will serve as an example to the rest.

A house is for living in.

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Outstanding news. The higher the cost of compliance and bureaucracy the better. Hopefully those caught in this trap, unable to sell due to negative equity and bearing the burden of negative returns, will serve as an example to the rest.

A house is for living in.

Indeed. Anything that makes BTL a much less attractive proposition gets my vote. You know the system is broken when an average family can no longer afford to buy an average house unassisted.

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Indeed. Anything that makes BTL a much less attractive proposition gets my vote. You know the system is broken when an average family can no longer afford to buy an average house unassisted.

But it won't

Council : makes regulations - recruits staff to police them - employs highly paid senior managers to mange them - charges a fee to landlords to cover costs of policing - so far so good.

Decent landlords : raise rents to cover the cost of compliance and council charges - tenants pay more

Unscrupulous landlords : raise rents but ignore jobsworth council wallahs who as usual are only able to enforce rules on those who would have followed them anyway - tenants pay more

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Manchester City Council made certain areas compulsory for landlords to register

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/10084/private_landlords/718/licensing_of_private_rented_properties/2

(they are all places that are high on deprivation index, terraces and appalling housing standards. So it's a good thing)

Landlord: do you need a licence?

As a private landlord you need a licence to rent out accommodation in Manchester if:

1. you rent any accommodation in specific areas

If you are a private landlord you must have a separate licence for all accommodation you rent out in these parts of Manchester:

Harpurhey

Lightbowne (in Moston)

Bradford

Gorton

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Decent landlords : raise rents to cover the cost of compliance and council charges - tenants pay more

Unscrupulous landlords : raise rents but ignore jobsworth council wallahs who as usual are only able to enforce rules on those who would have followed them anyway - tenants pay more

The days of money growing on trees is over. We're now moving to 'landlords' getting what they can. I see more and more BTL properties coming on the market despite promises of fantastic returns, it looks like whatever rents they have in mind they are not letting them at all. Increase rent by 10% to cover extra costs and that gives you 110% or 0 which is still 0.

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But it won't

Council : makes regulations - recruits staff to police them - employs highly paid senior managers to mange them - charges a fee to landlords to cover costs of policing - so far so good.

Decent landlords : raise rents to cover the cost of compliance and council charges - tenants pay moreUnscrupulous landlords : raise rents but ignore jobsworth council wallahs who as usual are only able to enforce rules on those who would have followed them anyway - tenants pay more

A 'decent' landlord will already comply. As said above, anything which adds cost and/or hassle to the BTLers is a good thing though.

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They just want to charge fee, impose their authoritarian power and expand their remit allowing them to employ more people and have larger salaries at the top.

Its corrupt mafioso statist ********.

I really do despair, Its like Ayn Rand said: "For a man to produce, he must first seek the permission of those who produce nothing"

Please god let it all collapse.

I don't consider Landlords to be the producers of anything. They profit from witholding access to property and only serve as a pot of cash from which maintenance is made.

If the property belonged to a housing co-operative those profits would go back to the co-operative to be used for maintenance rather than being used to buy a new BMW X5 every year and botox for Mrs. Landlord. Plus the tenants would have an active say in the place they live in and its maintenance, which avoids problems caused by lack of responsibility you sometimes get with social housing.

****** landlords!

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Indeed. Anything that makes BTL a much less attractive proposition gets my vote. You know the system is broken when an average family can no longer afford to buy an average house unassisted.

True

There has to be an incentive to work, and the point you make is just one of the things that have to be corrected in this country.

BENEFITS in this country have killed the will to work for many.

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They just want to charge fee, impose their authoritarian power and expand their remit allowing them to employ more people and have larger salaries at the top.

Its corrupt mafioso statist ********.

I really do despair, Its like Ayn Rand said: "For a man to produce, he must first seek the permission of those who produce nothing"

Please god let it all collapse.

You haven't really thought through the quote you've included, have you?

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In a separate plan, Newham Council wants to borrow money to buy private homes to let.

The council in discussions with the government over the move, as current laws ban councils from borrowing money.

If successful, the council wants to buy around 7,500 homes to ease homelessness and improve property standards.

Another "innovative" scheme!

Newnham FTB's going to be outbid by the council who are using their council tax money to do it.

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Oxford City Council will soon require licencing for HMO's with 3+ occupants in more than one household:

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/PageRender/decH/WhentoApplyforaHMOLicence.htm

They are focusing on HMO's here because:

1) They form an unusually high percentage of houses in the city with an estimated 1 in 5 of the resident population living in an HMO.

2) The House Condition Survey of 2005 reported that HMOs provided the poorest homes in the city and that 70% were unsafe. 61.3% of HMOs had below standard fire detection, with 16.9% of HMOs having no fire detection at all.

3) High demand for properties has meant that some landlords can offer these lower quality properties but are still confident of finding tenants.

The licensing is being introduced in stages:

The first stage of the Scheme will come into force on the 24 January 2011. The landlords of all three or more storey HMOs that contain three or four occupiers and all two storey HMOs that contain five or more occupiers will be required to obtain a licence to operate the property as an HMO.

The second stage of the scheme will come into force on the 30 January 2012. The landlords of all two storey or single storey HMOs that contain three or four occupiers and self contained flats that are HMOs will be required to obtain a licence to operate the property as an HMO. There are some converted self contained flats that will also require a licence if they are mainly or wholly tenanted, including those with resident landlords.

This is a good thing IMHO. There is also a voluntary Landlord Accreditation Scheme:

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/PageRender/decH/Landlord_Accreditation_Scheme_occw.htm

but as you might imagine, very few letting agencies and landlords have signed up as of June 2011.

Manchester City Council made certain areas compulsory for landlords to register

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/10084/private_landlords/718/licensing_of_private_rented_properties/2

(they are all places that are high on deprivation index, terraces and appalling housing standards. So it's a good thing)

Landlord: do you need a licence?

As a private landlord you need a licence to rent out accommodation in Manchester if:

1. you rent any accommodation in specific areas

If you are a private landlord you must have a separate licence for all accommodation you rent out in these parts of Manchester:

Harpurhey

Lightbowne (in Moston)

Bradford

Gorton

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I think there should be better regulation for landords. However, it would be superfluous unless legislation that already exists is enforced and used appropriately.

Notice that the council is gathering info about landlord's insurance.

Without legislation that requires it, and the power to enforce the holding of insurance, this information-gathering is just snooping, pointless, and a job-creation scheme for yet more overpaid civil servants at taxpayer's expense.

So what sort of council is the wasteful, snooping Newham Council ? As far as I can discover, all 60 councillors are Labour. Quelle surprise.

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I wpuld rather see letting agents to be licenced amd monitored, without a licence you cant be a letting agent, in a similar way gas safe(corgi) registered gas men are regulated. If a landlord wants to be a sole landlord then he has to register as a letting agent. This should force some of the accidental landlords to sell up, and the chancer btlers would have to rethink their strategy

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