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my future was my best asset. its gone.

I would copyright this brilliant rhetoric, stick it on T shirts and sell it to the kids- it's perfect and they will treasure it.

Then, with the proceeds purchase a nuclear bunker to ride out the storm. :D

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'its over'? Good, about bloody time.

Wake before you've had your required rest to the sound of BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP,

commute in traffic jams with a load of other tired sad faces,

arrive at a building full of others who dont want to be there,

do some pointless nonsense with people you dont like,

wait for the day to end,

commute back again,

eat mass produced poor quality food that is slowly killing you,

watch tv,

bed,

repeat

And at the weekends we get to mow a small square of grass and wash the car! And queue in DIY stores!

And we stand to lose all that? oh deary me!

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your educated thats why you can spot the signs slightly earlier. you have read and understood the truth on this forum. however, the public havent yet cottoned onto to hidden inflation. sure they are shocked by 15% gas rises, but they still even watch the news and read the newspapers with innocence. they will never be told anything other than tomorrow is just around the corner. for them it has to be something so low as a closed down KFC to become 'not quite right'.

they will feel it much more than their children. children are resilient. they will grow up knowing only this, and so wont feel any loss. we wont end up in some unlivable mad max scenario, though there will be plenty of no go areas. life as we partly know it, and life as the over 55s wholly know it, will simply cease to exist.

after the initial crimewave and the building of cheap prisons and new laws, we will eventually resign ourselves to the future. in time we will forget dreams and perhaps live for the company of others, rather than the money of others.

within the last 60 years we have lost god, politics, human charity and worst of all, our memory.

Hey Fred, this sounds worse than 1984. Tis true I'm beginning to see general signs of panic in the business class in which I dwell. Took a while.

Protect yourselves.

Edited by gruffydd

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'its over'? Good, about bloody time.

Wake before you've had your required rest to the sound of BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP,

commute in traffic jams with a load of other tired sad faces,

arrive at a building full of others who dont want to be there,

do some pointless nonsense with people you dont like,

wait for the day to end,

commute back again,

eat mass produced poor quality food that is slowly killing you,

watch tv,

bed,

repeat

And at the weekends we get to mow a small square of grass and wash the car! And queue in DIY stores!

And we stand to lose all that? oh deary me!

I hear that!

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I'm with the Arch Bishop of Canterbury as far as God is concerned

If God didn't exists humans would invent one anyway.

Look at all the Socialist countries where God is banned

The Leader becomes God

So which is better, worshiping Moa, Stalin or Kim Il Sung

or believing in God?

:blink:

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'its over'? Good, about bloody time.

Wake before you've had your required rest to the sound of BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP,

commute in traffic jams with a load of other tired sad faces,

arrive at a building full of others who dont want to be there,

do some pointless nonsense with people you dont like,

wait for the day to end,

commute back again,

eat mass produced poor quality food that is slowly killing you,

watch tv,

bed,

repeat

And at the weekends we get to mow a small square of grass and wash the car! And queue in DIY stores!

And we stand to lose all that? oh deary me!

+1000000000!!

Love the 'Everything is OK' video - gets better every time I see it.

INDEPENDENT THOUGHTS LEAD TO CHAOS...

Lmao :D

EDIT: Plus some EXCELLENT and truth-ringing posts from the OP throughout this thread. Well done, sir.

Edited by guitarman001

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'its over'? Good, about bloody time.

Wake before you've had your required rest to the sound of BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP,

commute in traffic jams with a load of other tired sad faces,

arrive at a building full of others who dont want to be there,

do some pointless nonsense with people you dont like,

wait for the day to end,

commute back again,

eat mass produced poor quality food that is slowly killing you,

watch tv,

bed,

repeat

And at the weekends we get to mow a small square of grass and wash the car! And queue in DIY stores!

And we stand to lose all that? oh deary me!

Your sarcasm makes the mistake of assuming that whatever replaces the status quo will definitely be better.

When in history did everybody lie in bed as long as they liked, then get up to do an exciting job with all their best friends just down the road? Read Dickens or Lark Rise to Candleford and note that life never was, and never will be, easy.

However, no-one's life need be as depressing as your little summary. If you don't like mowing and you're waking up tired every morning, live somewhere with no garden and go to bed earlier. :rolleyes::P

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Yes, it is over. I can feel something is about to happen. I think a lot of other people can as well, there's a sense of something taut in the air. It is making me very nervous.

But I have another feeling as well. I think we could see the start of the rise of the European East and the Middle East (if it doesn't collapse into war, which could be rather likely). I've just spent time in Beirut and you really notice how different the people are over there -- there's a dynamism to them that I just don't see in Western Europe anymore anywhere. And the strangest thing is that, despite all the political problems, despite the armed police and soldiers on the streets, the place feels more free than any Western European city. It felt like a place where people live and work, rather than a monolithic stone mausoleum, which so many British cities feel like now ... like cemeteries to a civilisation that is dead and gone.

And when I travel, I meet so many young Eastern Europeans with fire and drive, who want to get things done, and who like being busy at work, who communicate, and I think ... these people, they have something we lost decades ago.

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Yes, it is over. I can feel something is about to happen. I think a lot of other people can as well, there's a sense of something taut in the air. It is making me very nervous.

But I have another feeling as well. I think we could see the start of the rise of the European East and the Middle East (if it doesn't collapse into war, which could be rather likely). I've just spent time in Beirut and you really notice how different the people are over there -- there's a dynamism to them that I just don't see in Western Europe anymore anywhere. And the strangest thing is that, despite all the political problems, despite the armed police and soldiers on the streets, the place feels more free than any Western European city. It felt like a place where people live and work, rather than a monolithic stone mausoleum, which so many British cities feel like now ... like cemeteries to a civilisation that is dead and gone.

And when I travel, I meet so many young Eastern Europeans with fire and drive, who want to get things done, and who like being busy at work, who communicate, and I think ... these people, they have something we lost decades ago.

You could be onto something with that. Perhaps because we have basically had it far too easy for too long ? Is it any more complex than that ? I don't think so.

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Is anyone else seeing the site plastered with ads for the Samaritans today?

AFAIK, despite our often morose posts, this is a first. laugh.gif

Makes a pleasant change from Gay Bear Dating ads and Sarah Beeny's find-a-******-buddy ads.

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RFD.. What is over exactly? I think the one thing that is for sure is that this is the first significant downturn/depression in which Internet forums / 24 hour news exists - which gives a non stop platform for extreme views and hot air - which I agree, in turn, can influence people and markets and make things worse... But we are talking about the human race here which since year dot has been a survival of the fittest / smartest...... Some things may be over: jobs for life, money for nothing, final salary state pensions in Greece for retiring at 50 and working half days in a shop [quoting a stereotype, happy to be shot down]... But really that shouldn't be a bad thing - we have got rich off the back of cheap labour in India and the far east making all our stuff for too long.... But life will go on, and those that are able to adapt, be progressive thinking and work hard will be fine - and don't bet against this forum sprouting up again in 2025 when the next credit fuelled house price bubble takes off. Britain and europes real worry should come when china / India / Russia and the rest fully embrace real democracy / rule of law with respect to property ownership and intellectual capital / lack of censorship of media and Internet - that is the one true competitive advantage we have and the reason money flows back here. Moan about politicians all you like but underestimate it at your peril [yes I know the daily express is an advert for channel 5/ house prices / al fayed before anyone picks me up on that]....

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I'm pretty sure my Gran was from Eastern Europe. She was always complaining about beetroots. :huh:

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Ps. Dissident junk, just read your post - that is basically what I'm saying. I have travelled to a few places with my work, currently in Azerbaijan where the population is bright and motivated (in Baku at any rate).... Let these people go on the world stage and you are toast [if you are one of the ones that doesn't get it/ can't be arsed to work or make an effort]. the era of free stuff is over but thats no bad thing.

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And when I travel, I meet so many young Eastern Europeans with fire and drive, who want to get things done, and who like being busy at work, who communicate, and I think ... these people, they have something we lost decades ago.

Perhaps because they haven't got music plugs in their ears; aren't texting and aren't on Facebook?

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Wow. I went away nearly two years ago and I see we are having a repeat of the same old threads in 2008.

I even fell for it last time, took loads of cash out the afternoon before RBS was bailed out and bought some supplies. Thought I was "prepared" and perhaps even "enlightened". Turned out I was just a borderline weirdo.

I have been on this site for years under different names, got fed up with the tin-foil hatters a few times and vowed never to come back but I do (someone mentioned earlier in this thread its an addiction. I think they are right). I believed all the stuff about house prices and how the great crash was really happening but the VI's were covering it up. All I know now is that if I had joined the party, I would be in a much nicer house than I am currently in and I have to front up the the fact that my stance means that we dont really have a home for our child and the one on its way. I have to ask permission from some ****** to put pictures up on my childs bedroom wall, FFS. I am a company director running a decent company having to ask permission for that from some twit how took a punt 5 years ago. Sorry guys, this site is seriously bad for your wealth and health and sitting around a computer slagging off the world for being "sheeple" or thinking that you are better informed than economists/bankers/politicians is just delusional. You may be right but I dont think you are better informed.

Anyway, back on to thread. The OP is nuts, he needs help. Depression is an illness, not a crystal ball.

The thing about made up money is that it doesnt exist. The sun still comes up, crops still grown and fish still swim. There might be less range rover sports around but I dont care. I can never park my ******ing car on the high street now, so more space will be grand.

Very sensible post - did you come back just to check in on the other loons in the asylum? lol

I am with you on what you say, I doubt there will be any big crash as such, I think it will take a long time, I just think it only stands to reason that house prices should be cheaper for many reasons.

This site can be depressing at time and informative at others. But we have lives to get on with in the meantime!

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RFD.. What is over exactly? I think the one thing that is for sure is that this is the first significant downturn/depression in which Internet forums / 24 hour news exists - which gives a non stop platform for extreme views and hot air - which I agree, in turn, can influence people and markets and make things worse... But we are talking about the human race here which since year dot has been a survival of the fittest / smartest...... Some things may be over: jobs for life, money for nothing, final salary state pensions in Greece for retiring at 50 and working half days in a shop [quoting a stereotype, happy to be shot down]... But really that shouldn't be a bad thing - we have got rich off the back of cheap labour in India and the far east making all our stuff for too long.... But life will go on, and those that are able to adapt, be progressive thinking and work hard will be fine - and don't bet against this forum sprouting up again in 2025 when the next credit fuelled house price bubble takes off. Britain and europes real worry should come when china / India / Russia and the rest fully embrace real democracy / rule of law with respect to property ownership and intellectual capital / lack of censorship of media and Internet - that is the one true competitive advantage we have and the reason money flows back here. Moan about politicians all you like but underestimate it at your peril [yes I know the daily express is an advert for channel 5/ house prices / al fayed before anyone picks me up on that]....

That's the spirit- you're getting it now. You don't deserve the good things in life, your lot is to toil for your masters for a crust and be glad to have it. Healthcare? Pensions? An easy life? Not for you- such things are for your betters, the wise ones who control your destiny.

Yes, I think it's safe to say that you are prepared for the future- at least you attitude adjustment is coming along nicely.

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I believed all the stuff about house prices and how the great crash was really happening but the VI's were covering it up. All I know now is that if I had joined the party, I would be in a much nicer house than I am currently in and I have to front up the the fact that my stance means that we dont really have a home for our child and the one on its way. I have to ask permission from some ****** to put pictures up on my childs bedroom wall, FFS. I am a company director running a decent company having to ask permission for that from some twit how took a punt 5 years ago. Sorry guys, this site is seriously bad for your wealth and health and sitting around a computer slagging off the world for being "sheeple" or thinking that you are better informed than economists/bankers/politicians is just delusional. You may be right but I dont think you are better informed.

alarm bells are ringing....

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