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Dave's 'firing Up The Economy'

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Mods pls delete didn't see other thread. :rolleyes:

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Mods pls delete didn't see other thread. :rolleyes:

This Tory flag waver isn't listening any more, and see's Dave as chief spokesman/salesmen/CEO for the United Bankdom.

"Get the banks lending.."

"Expand the right to buy.."

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I don't think anyone knows what they are doing any more. They are being confused bt the theoretical economists and central bankers and the role of money in the economy. It's all too complex with competing theories and opinions. Not just that but certain 'solutions' (like credit growth) appear to work....certainly in the short term, but could actually be harmful longer term.

Perhaps what we need to do is to withdraw from all the world's institutions and treaties in their entirety and retreat into a back to basics approach of only trading by barter. Then they will understand how the world really works and it will focus minds as to what really needs to be done.

I found the following an interesting appraisal of the current situation re capital/debt and the relative velocity of money, or lack of ; http://www.lewrockwell.com/crovelli/crovelli46.1.html

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I don't think anyone knows what they are doing any more. They are being confused bt the theoretical economists and central bankers and the role of money in the economy. It's all too complex with competing theories and opinions. Not just that but certain 'solutions' (like credit growth) appear to work....certainly in the short term, but could actually be harmful longer term.

Perhaps what we need to do is to withdraw from all the world's institutions and treaties in their entirety and retreat into a back to basics approach of only trading by barter. Then they will understand how the world really works and it will focus minds as to what really needs to be done.

Yes I agree. The problem is the tptb are so arrogant for them to find out they contribute nothing useful and the guy in dirty overall does it would blow their minds.

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I thought the Tory's had a "house prices must remain high" mantra, the same as the labour party.

The attempt at relaxing the planning laws and upsetting the "don't concrete over the country side brigade" has surprised me a bit.

I'm starting to think they could build 300,000 homes this year, and house prices still wouldn't drop much. But it would be nice if they tried :)

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Eureka!! For sure he got that plan in the bath. It's such a neat solution all Greece and those other PIGS need to do is "fire up" their own economies and Bob's your uncle. If the UK can do it so can they.

Can't see the need for all the bailout money now that the Great Plan's out in the open - they should just get on with it and "fire up".

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In his Tory conference report on the 10pm BBC News I'm pretty sure Nick Robinson said there would be a major new scheme to help homebuyers with deposits to be launched in November.

Did anyone else notice this or have any details?

Maybe his economic growth plan relies on a new house price boom. We already know it depends on a huge increase in household debt.

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Eureka!! For sure he got that plan in the bath. It's such a neat solution all Greece and those other PIGS need to do is "fire up" their own economies and Bob's your uncle. If the UK can do it so can they.

Can't see the need for all the bailout money now that the Great Plan's out in the open - they should just get on with it and "fire up".

The Irish have already started bull dozing their property surplus, once that is done then all they need to do is borrow a shedload of money from the ECB and start building the housing estates again. There you have it, a perpetual economic miracle predicated on demolishing and building houses.

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There is a plan but it cannot be carried out because the labour party and the unions control the media therefore the debt is rising and the public sector is still in the way of growth.

:blink::lol::lol::lol:

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The Irish have already started bull dozing their property surplus, once that is done then all they need to do is borrow a shedload of money from the ECB and start building the housing estates again. There you have it, a perpetual economic miracle predicated on demolishing and building houses.

You know, Dave's Great "Fire Up" Plan has to be admired for its pedigree.

No not the recent riots, no not Prescott's proposal a few years ago to demolish 400,000 homes when homes were/are said to be in short supply (strange how similar numbers keep cropping up over time in the UK as the years go by year after year after year after year and eventually turning into decades and decades ................ either to demolish or build etc etc) and so on.

Keynsian and Austrian economic approaches seem to have gone by the board now so it's clearly let's get right down to brass tacks time in the UK with the NuEconomics. The Great Plan seems to have its inspiration in the principles of Nero no less. Apparently he was very keen on the "fire up" economic approach.

How the Germans, for example. must look on in envy and ask why they have to keep engineering stuff like BMW. Bosch and Siemens products and so on etc etc etc when they could just as easily just "fire up".

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There is a plan but it cannot be carried out because the labour party and the unions control the media therefore the debt is rising and the public sector is still in the way of growth.

What colour's the sky, in your world?

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Given the number of recessions we have had in the past, it's a bit fanciful thinking that this time politicians will discover something miraculous to aid growth that has been missed every other recession.

They should make sure that all the tried and tested remedies are being utilised though

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How the Germans, for example. must look on in envy and ask why they have to keep engineering stuff like BMW. Bosch and Siemens products and so on etc etc etc when they could just as easily just "fire up".

Yeah we showed the germans how a proper service based economy deals with upstart genuine wealth/job creating businesses when we denied Dyson any planning permission to build new/bigger factories so they had to f*ck off to asia.

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