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Talk tough on housing benefit - then backtrack.

Talk tough on disability claimants - then backtrack.

Talk tough on child benefit cuts - then backtrack.

I swear the only prime minister this country has ever had who truly had balls was.... the one who truly didn't.

Hitler?

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Talk tough on housing benefit - then backtrack.

Talk tough on disability claimants - then backtrack.

Talk tough on child benefit cuts - then backtrack.

I swear the only prime minister this country has ever had who truly had balls was.... the one who truly didn't.

And of course this would be the PM who made sure that my school's entire music, chemistry and history departments were closed down within two years. Also setting in place the Reagonomics that we see working so well today.

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Yeah, let 'em starve.

No, wait. Send 'em down the mines first. Get some work out of them. Then starve 'em.

:blink: What does child exploiatation and cruelty have to do with taxpayers paying for other peoples sprogs?

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Talk tough on housing benefit - then backtrack.

Talk tough on disability claimants - then backtrack.

Talk tough on child benefit cuts - then backtrack.

I swear the only prime minister this country has ever had who truly had balls was.... the one who truly didn't.

Nah, she was bullshitting, mostly.

Talk tough on shrinking the state - then backtrack.

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:blink: What does child exploiatation and cruelty have to do with taxpayers paying for other peoples sprogs?

I think he means children are societies responsibility, not a parents responsibility.

Whether irresponsible parents should be allowed to raise societies children and simultaneously benefit from it is perhaps a question for a different debate...

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Talk tough on housing benefit - then backtrack.

Talk tough on disability claimants - then backtrack.

Talk tough on child benefit cuts - then backtrack.

I swear the only prime minister this country has ever had who truly had balls was.... the one who truly didn't.

So political courage consists in taking on people with no influence or power? By that measure Thatcher truly was a figure of heroic proportions I guess.

I would be more impressed to see the government tackle the welfare scroungers in the city of London- at least that would require some guts. But hell will freeze over first.

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End all child benefits. A child is a responsibility, not a meal ticket.

The amount of money parents get in child benefit is not enough to be tagged meal ticket .

I think you are getting child allowance and gold diggers muddled up.

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I think he means children are societies responsibility, not a parents responsibility.

Whether irresponsible parents should be allowed to raise societies children and simultaneously benefit from it is perhaps a question for a different debate...

Children of resposible parents are their responsiblity; children of irresposible parents are still their responsiblity. The closest thing I can think of is that in days gone by, grandparents and the wider family would help out.

I just don't understand his correlation between child abuse, and tax money subsidising parents.

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I think you'll find she did shrink the state. It's just that the private sector shrank faster.

She very briefly slowed the growth of the state.

That's all.

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I'd have thought there is a stronger argument for cutting the state pension than for cutting child benefits. After all, by the time you're a pensioner, you've had the change to arrange your own finances, and if you starve, it's at least partially your own fault. As a child, though, you are completely at the mercy of others.

In fact, I'd say that the basic raison d'etre of social welfare is to protect children, who will then hopefully grow up and be in a position to repay their debt to society.

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Children of resposible parents are their responsiblity; children of irresposible parents are still their responsiblity. The closest thing I can think of is that in days gone by, grandparents and the wider family would help out.

I just don't understand his correlation between child abuse, and tax money subsidising parents.

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Yes and when the kids got older they'd look after the Grandparents. The whole process of "care" has slowly become more and more socialised by Government, the financial responsibilty has been transferred from the family to the taxpayer. It's not the preserve of the poor either, theres nothing like the middle classes squaeling when Mummy has to sell the house to pay for the OAP home and wave goodbye to that unearnt inheritance.

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Children of resposible parents are their responsiblity; children of irresposible parents are still their responsiblity. The closest thing I can think of is that in days gone by, grandparents and the wider family would help out.

I just don't understand his correlation between child abuse, and tax money subsidising parents.

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My friends mother in 1982 jumped out of a high rise flat window to her death leaving her children behind, she was in such despair that the father of those children drank and gambled away the families only source of income that killing herself seemed the only way out.

Of course she was extremely irresponsible because then those children went into care at great expense, shame somebody didn't come along and offer her a few quid in tax credits could have been a much happier ending.

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I'd have thought there is a stronger argument for cutting the state pension than for cutting child benefits. After all, by the time you're a pensioner, you've had the change to arrange your own finances, and if you starve, it's at least partially your own fault. As a child, though, you are completely at the mercy of others.

In fact, I'd say that the basic raison d'etre of social welfare is to protect children, who will then hopefully grow up and be in a position to repay their debt to society.

Theres your problem.

if it's an act of kindness, nothing is owed.

if it's done just to get something back later, it's a form of slavery.

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Rather than call it "child benefit cuts", they're gonna call it "child deficit growth" so that it sounds pretty damn appealing to the opposition? :rolleyes:

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Children of resposible parents are their responsiblity; children of irresposible parents are still their responsiblity. The closest thing I can think of is that in days gone by, grandparents and the wider family would help out.

I just don't understand his correlation between child abuse, and tax money subsidising parents.

That is perhaps how it should be.. but it certainly isn't how it is. Society dictates how your children will be raised, not you.

Your children will grow up thinking witches are pink and paper is anything but white ;)

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Theres your problem.

if it's an act of kindness, nothing is owed.

if it's done just to get something back later, it's a form of slavery.

If you view society as slavery, then yes, I suppose so. I don't though.

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